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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 11th December, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Comfortable in the end as Leeds go top

Leeds solidified their position at the Championship summit with an impressive 3-1 victory against Middlesbrough, marking their eighth consecutive home win of the season. The Whites had already lost to the Smoggies this season, a 3-0 home defeat back in August, but if Farke's side were apprehensive, they certainly didn't show it on the pitch. They were far more creative than their North Yorkshire neighbours, and used their wide men to great effect to constantly move the visitors out of position, and keep them penned in to their own half for much of the game.

There was an element of luck about Leeds opener on 14 minutes. Byram and James combined well down the right channel. As James drove the ball low and hard across the six yard area, panic set in, and Dieng's attempted clearance ricocheted off Gnonto, and into the back of the net. He could have doubled his tally late on in the first half, only for the Senegalese International to make amends with a smart save to his right.

The dynamics of the match shifted on 54 minutes when Max Wober inadvertently turned the ball into his own net following a well executed Boro corner. Despite this wobble, Leeds held firm, and retook the lead 20 minutes later with an exquisite strike from James (his fourth of the season). The Welsh International showed great poise and control to lift the ball over Dieng and find the corner.

Aaronson added the cherry on the cake with a third in stoppage time, as the visitors went aimlessly in search of an equaliser. Leeds deserved their victory over one of the Championship's most in-form teams, and have created a three point buffer between themselves and third place. Sunderland and Burnley can't stop drawing at the moment, so if the Whites can improve their away form, they could find themselves clear of the chasing pack come the new year.





Contrasting views from the Managers after Leeds win

During their post match interviews, both Managers shared contrasting views of the game with Michael Carrick rueing his side not turning the game in their favour after equalising, and Daniel Farke congratulating his side after a well deserved victory. In truth, whilst a 3-1 score-line may flatter them slightly, they were good value for the win

Leeds United head coach Daniel Farke...

I think it was a well deserved win, in the end. But I want to congratulate Middlesbrough on a really good away performance. They were positive and that makes our win a bit sweeter because we played against an excellent side. It was a really good first half, but the feeling in such a tight game was that we wasted too many chances. After such an unlikely equaliser, it is difficult to turn the tide again but that is what we did and many compliments to the players.

Middlesbrough Manager Michael Carrick...

I'm disappointed with the result, but the game was right in the balance really, second half. In some ways, it was where we wanted it. We had a really good spell and it felt like we could go on and win the game. Obviously we did loads of good things in coming back into the game and had wrestled back control after going a goal down. Over the last two games, we've played against players who've played a lot of Premier League football and our lads can take a lot of confidence from how we've gone about it.

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3-1 was flattering, but the win was deserved. A good match for fans and neutrals....

I loved seeing the team spirit to dig in and get the win!
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Morning all.
3-1 flattering, nope, I'm not having that, yes boro were the best side to come and actually try lake the game as expeceted, but the amount of chances wasted again and again and again by James in particular ...but the feeling in such a tight game was that we wasted too many chances. After such an unlikely equaliser, it is difficult to turn the tide again but that is what we did and many compliments to the players. As DF says above.
Farke cocked it up in the cup bu was never likely to last night, an unfortunate own goal, it allowed them back into the game (btw, why did meslier not stay on his line !!) and gave the smoggies some momentum, but I don't recall them ever over-running us, and when they pressed, it was mainly because we lost the ball again, too many times did we gift them the ball.
Can someone please tell Joseph he is allowed to jump for the ball anytime in the game.
Was a pleasure to see Solomon and Piroe come on and restore the balance.
Well deserved 3 points . :clap:
Btw, as the ball was coming to James I shouted "7th time lucky James" to cheers around me, obviouslt he heard me and walloped it home.
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Really enjoyed it last night, fair play to Middlesbrough, definitely one of the better sides we’ve seen at ER this season.

They will be there or thereabouts for a playoff spot.
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Ao Tanaka, the midfield maestro for Leeds United, channeled his Japanese Zen mastery to orchestrate a stunning 3-1 victory over Boro.

Before kickoff, Tanaka was seen meditating on the center circle, radiating an aura so calm that it caused a gust of wind to rock the Boro team bus in the parking lot.

Once the whistle blew, his moves were sharper than a katana blade. His uncanny ability to anticipate the opponents’ every pass baffled Boro's midfield, as if he’d read their strategy while steeping matcha in a calming Japanese tea cerimony.

His highlight moment came when, instead of a traditional shot, he skipped like a samurai swordsman with delicate side steps, to make a precise pass to Aaronson for him to tap it into the net, it could only be described as "a haiku in motion."

In the 78th minute, with Leeds cruising, and in a relaxed mood, he pulled off his most unexpected tactic: cooking... yes cooking!

It was when he casually set up a portable hibachi grill on the sideline and whipped up a flawless takoyaki. The savory aroma distracted Boro’s defense, who instinctively wandered off the pitch in search of soy sauce. It was a move like the sound of one hand clapping... zen mastery at its finest.

Post-game interviews revealed that he attributed the win to "balance in football and umami in life," earning Leeds not only three points but also a Michelin star for Tanaka in the Yorkshire Football Cuisine League.
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mentalcase wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:19 am Morning all.
3-1 flattering, nope, I'm not having that, yes boro were the best side to come and actually try lake the game as expeceted, but the amount of chances wasted again and again and again by James in particular ...but the feeling in such a tight game was that we wasted too many chances. After such an unlikely equaliser, it is difficult to turn the tide again but that is what we did and many compliments to the players. As DF says above.
Farke cocked it up in the cup bu was never likely to last night, an unfortunate own goal, it allowed them back into the game (btw, why did meslier not stay on his line !!) and gave the smoggies some momentum, but I don't recall them ever over-running us, and when they pressed, it was mainly because we lost the ball again, too many times did we gift them the ball.
Can someone please tell Joseph he is allowed to jump for the ball anytime in the game.
Was a pleasure to see Solomon and Piroe come on and restore the balance.

Well deserved 3 points . :clap:
Btw, as the ball was coming to James I shouted "7th time lucky James" to cheers around me, obviouslt he heard me and walloped it home.
Not flattered at all

Already made the point about Joseph not jumping/challenging on other threads.

Soloman & Piroe made a huge impact coming on as subs.....where are the Farke knockers this morning?

I heard you with your James shout. :lol:

Dan loves scoring goals like that at the kop end, another cracker!

Btw, were you watching us two last night?
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Barlow Boy wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:36 am Really enjoyed it last night, fair play to Middlesbrough, definitely one of the better sides we’ve seen at ER this season.

They will be there or thereabouts for a playoff spot.
Ten points behind us now, happy with that.

Would be nice to be ten points in front of Burnley or the Blunts at some stage.

So ex-Premier League team Burnley couldn't beat Derby last night :lol:

Check out these ratings/comments on Anthony last night, our four wingers are better than him.
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Sean_Nile wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:40 am Ao Tanaka, the midfield maestro for Leeds United, channeled his Japanese Zen mastery to orchestrate a stunning 3-1 victory over Boro.

Before kickoff, Tanaka was seen meditating on the center circle, radiating an aura so calm that it caused a gust of wind to rock the Boro team bus in the parking lot.

Once the whistle blew, his moves were sharper than a katana blade. His uncanny ability to anticipate the opponents’ every pass baffled Boro's midfield, as if he’d read their strategy while steeping matcha in a calming Japanese tea cerimony.

His highlight moment came when, instead of a traditional shot, he skipped like a samurai swordsman with delicate side steps, to make a precise pass to Aaronson for him to tap it into the net, it could only be described as "a haiku in motion."

In the 78th minute, with Leeds cruising, and in a relaxed mood, he pulled off his most unexpected tactic: cooking... yes cooking!

It was when he casually set up a portable hibachi grill on the sideline and whipped up a flawless takoyaki. The savory aroma distracted Boro’s defense, who instinctively wandered off the pitch in search of soy sauce. It was a move like the sound of one hand clapping... zen mastery at its finest.

Post-game interviews revealed that he attributed the win to "balance in football and umami in life," earning Leeds not only three points but also a Michelin star for Tanaka in the Yorkshire Football Cuisine League.
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1964white wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:30 am Not flattered at all

Already made the point about Joseph not jumping/challenging on other threads.

Soloman & Piroe made a huge impact coming on as subs.....where are the Farke knockers this morning?

I heard you with your James shout. :lol:

Dan loves scoring goals like that at the kop end, another cracker!

Btw, were you watching us two last night?
I didn't get in till.right on kick off, wasn't going at one stage but in the end gave in and it was.the shot in the arm.I needed.
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1964white wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:30 am Not flattered at all

Already made the point about Joseph not jumping/challenging on other threads.

Soloman & Piroe made a huge impact coming on as subs.....where are the Farke knockers this morning?

I heard you with your James shout. :lol:

Dan loves scoring goals like that at the kop end, another cracker!

Btw, were you watching us two last night?
Heard quite a bit of praise for Piroe and Solomon's impact

The truth is we just have that luxury of bringing on top quality players to play against tiring defences. It could equally be James, Gnonto, or Ramazani coming off the bench to make a big impact.

Hoping we'll now be adding Ampadu to the mix so that we have an extra impact midfielder too - it will likely be Rothwell or Aaronson coming off the bench to make a big impact
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:04 pm Heard quite a bit of praise for Piroe and Solomon's impact

The truth is we just have that luxury of bringing on top quality players to play against tiring defences. It could equally be James, Gnonto, or Ramazani coming off the bench to make a big impact.

Hoping we'll now be adding Ampadu to the mix so that we have an extra impact midfielder too - it will likely be Rothwell or Aaronson coming off the bench to make a big impact
Solomon's reaction really annoyed me .... and he's a bit boring to watch compared to Ramazani. I feel we're being deprived of Ramazani atm
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:20 pm Solomon's reaction really annoyed me .... and he's a bit boring to watch compared to Ramazani. I feel we're being deprived of Ramazani atm
I think Farke is just taking it slow on Ramazani, not rushing his return unnecessarily. 68 minutes was probably longer tha he wanted to risk him yesterday.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:04 pm I think Farke is just taking it slow on Ramazani, not rushing his return unnecessarily. 68 minutes was probably longer tha he wanted to risk him yesterday.
I think Rama is ready and raring to go, he's just well down the pecking order.
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:09 pm I think Rama is ready and raring to go, he's just well down the pecking order.
I don't get that feeling. When he got injured he looked like the best of our 4 wingers. I just think he's the least match fit of the 4.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:14 pm I don't get that feeling. When he got injured he looked like the best of our 4 wingers. I just think he's the least match fit of the 4.
Only one way to get match fit and if that were the case (best winger, not match fit) then he's first man on at 70 for Gnonto.
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:20 pm Only one way to get match fit and if that were the case (best winger, not match fit) then he's first man on at 70 for Gnonto.
Farke's a hard one to understand in that regard. He never plays seniors in the reserves. Hardly plays younger players in the reserves. He seems to work on match fitness on the training ground. Bamford coming back last season was a big surprise to us all. We didn't think he was match fit because he'd hardly been involved in any games. Then he came back, out of the blue, and went on a long run of starts.

I always think it's best to keep increasing minutes incrementally, 5 then 10, then 20 etc. But Farke doesn't seem to work that way.
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:20 pm Only one way to get match fit and if that were the case (best winger, not match fit) then he's first man on at 70 for Gnonto.
While we have 3 other fully fit wingers we have the luxury of easing Largey back in without risking an injury reoccurence. Plenty of matches left for Largey to be involved in. Like you I think Largey looked the most exciting of the 4 prior to his injury. I do think the subs made last night was about us still keeping shape and not risking losing the point with 'wildcards Largey and Schmidt.' We needed to freshen things up but did it without compromising the structure.
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:20 pm Solomon's reaction really annoyed me .... and he's a bit boring to watch compared to Ramazani. I feel we're being deprived of Ramazani atm
Dont know why but I always feel slightly underwhelmed by Solomon. Although I saw his instantly glum face when Aaronson scored instead of him I didn’t watch him to see if he celebrated with his teammates.
Would also like to see more of Ramazani as he is actually “our” player.
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weasel wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:57 pm While we have 3 other fully fit wingers we have the luxury of easing Largey back in without risking an injury reoccurence. Plenty of matches left for Largey to be involved in. Like you I think Largey looked the most exciting of the 4 prior to his injury. I do think the subs made last night was about us still keeping shape and not risking losing the point with 'wildcards Largey and Schmidt.' We needed to freshen things up but did it without compromising the structure.
I reckon you could fit a few more Largey’s in if you tried.
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:20 pm Solomon's reaction really annoyed me .... and he's a bit boring to watch compared to Ramazani. I feel we're being deprived of Ramazani atm
Another thought. There may be an agreed playing time with Solomon being on loan. Just a thought. But maybe Farke wants to ensure he doesn't lose him in January.
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