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That was the team that was

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Documentary worth a watch, a few of our players in there.
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Also this one :tup:
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What happened to Scottish football?
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YorkshireSquare wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:54 pm What happened to Scottish football?
When the Leeds players retired, they went down hill fast. :)
Also, for such a small country , didn't do them any good whatsoever buying from abroad, starving the young scottish kids of their chance.
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YorkshireSquare wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:54 pm What happened to Scottish football?
They got as far as Derby, got nervous, went home and got their asses kicked at Cullloden
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YorkshireSquare wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:54 pm What happened to Scottish football?
Exactly the same as happened to English football - the influx of mediocre foreign players restricting decent opportunities.

Of course the exceptional talent will always rise to the top, but what of the young talent who need nurturing and top level game experience? They couldn’t break into the sides that historically gave them a go against international players, where they could either sink, or swim, because those spots were suddenly filled with exotic sounding so-called superstars.

I know the question is aimed at Scots, but the same applies to all UK players, in my opinion. History is full of clubs whose first team didn’t include a single UK player. The Home Nations series died because of a lack of home grown quality. Those supporters too young to have seen Scotland or Wales or NI at Wembley every year are missing a treat.

Would the likes of a Paul Madeley have broken into a club team full of foreign mercenaries today? I doubt it. Yet he went on to become a full England regular, the original super-sub.

That Scotland side you picture was no better than the one today, bar a couple of genuine superstars, and they won nothing tangible (tell me, how much silver polish has England bought since 66?).
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Orange Box wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:22 am Exactly the same as happened to English football - the influx of mediocre foreign players restricting decent opportunities.

Of course the exceptional talent will always rise to the top, but what of the young talent who need nurturing and top level game experience? They couldn’t break into the sides that historically gave them a go against international players, where they could either sink, or swim, because those spots were suddenly filled with exotic sounding so-called superstars.

I know the question is aimed at Scots, but the same applies to all UK players, in my opinion. History is full of clubs whose first team didn’t include a single UK player. The Home Nations series died because of a lack of home grown quality. Those supporters too young to have seen Scotland or Wales or NI at Wembley every year are missing a treat.

Would the likes of a Paul Madeley have broken into a club team full of foreign mercenaries today? I doubt it. Yet he went on to become a full England regular, the original super-sub.

That Scotland side you picture was no better than the one today, bar a couple of genuine superstars, and they won nothing tangible (tell me, how much silver polish has England bought since 66?).
Ahhhh the good old Home Nations series that England & Scotland pulled out of because they thought it beneath them but Northern Ireland still hold to this day. We bought England’s supply of silver polish OB, knowing that they wouldn’t need it again, so we could keep that lovely old trophy gleaming.
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GAWA…..

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Irish Ian wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:28 pm They got as far as Derby, got nervous, went home and got their asses kicked at Cullloden
It was the old bash and slash that did for them.
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Orange Box wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:22 am Exactly the same as happened to English football - the influx of mediocre foreign players restricting decent opportunities.

Of course the exceptional talent will always rise to the top, but what of the young talent who need nurturing and top level game experience? They couldn’t break into the sides that historically gave them a go against international players, where they could either sink, or swim, because those spots were suddenly filled with exotic sounding so-called superstars.

I know the question is aimed at Scots, but the same applies to all UK players, in my opinion. History is full of clubs whose first team didn’t include a single UK player. The Home Nations series died because of a lack of home grown quality. Those supporters too young to have seen Scotland or Wales or NI at Wembley every year are missing a treat.

Would the likes of a Paul Madeley have broken into a club team full of foreign mercenaries today? I doubt it. Yet he went on to become a full England regular, the original super-sub.

That Scotland side you picture was no better than the one today, bar a couple of genuine superstars, and they won nothing tangible (tell me, how much silver polish has England bought since 66?).
As I alluded to above OB, the influx of foriegn players killed it all, England included, although we were shite long before they arrived, going downhill rapidly from around 73 tbh, the 80s were very poor for England.
The home internationals were great as you say, went to many both home and away.
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Scotland and Wales had some very good individual players yet just couldn't get it together as a team.
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mentalcase wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:05 am As I alluded to above OB, the influx of foriegn players killed it all, England included, although we were shite long before they arrived, going downhill rapidly from around 73 tbh, the 80s were very poor for England.
The home internationals were great as you say, went to many both home and away.
If you look back to the Scots in 78 or England and N Ireland in 82 as an example.
Most of their players were playing at the top level.

Now we have International players from all over the world playing in League One and home grown players dont have the same opportunities to comethrough.

Pity really
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I remember that team very well , it was like Leeds Utd being at the world cup ....Bremner , Lorimer , Gray , Jordan , McQueen, Harvey ......also Leeds had Steward and Frank Gray as international players too , maybe a little later but to me it really felt like Leeds were there...and they went out but were undefeated.
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Irish Ian wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:48 pm If you look back to the Scots in 78 or England and N Ireland in 82 as an example.
Most of their players were playing at the top level.

Now we have International players from all over the world playing in League One and home grown players dont have the same opportunities to comethrough.

Pity really
Apologies Ian, I replied to you but somehow put it to OB, think we agree on it :tup:
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Clacton White wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 6:26 pm I remember that team very well , it was like Leeds Utd being at the world cup ....Bremner , Lorimer , Gray , Jordan , McQueen, Harvey ......also Leeds had Steward and Frank Gray as international players too , maybe a little later but to me it really felt like Leeds were there...and they went out but were undefeated.
Realized Eddie Gray didn't make 74 squad , but Leeds then had a load of Scottish players .......Arthur Harris came along just a little later , John McGovern etc .
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Clacton White wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:53 am Realized Eddie Gray didn't make 74 squad , but Leeds then had a load of Scottish players .......Arthur Harris came along just a little later , John McGovern etc .
Should’ve beaten Brazil but didn’t score enough against Zaire unlike Brazil and Yugoslavia.

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