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Good Morning. It's Tuesday 21st January, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Buendia's representatives fly to London to discuss future

Aston Villa would not stand in Emi Buendia's way if he wanted to leave Villa Park this month in search of game time. That's according to Villans boss Unai Emery, who after praising the Argentine's professionalism and work rate in training, admitted he wouldn't stand in Buendia's way if he wanted to go out on loan this month. The 28 year old has recently been linked with a move to River Plate, a club he supported growing up, but for now it least it seems he is happy to stay in England. His representatives are flying to London to discuss his future!

Leeds have always maintained a willingness to strengthen during Winter transfer windows in the past, as long as the player is affordable, and would improve the quality of the starting XI. Even in the unlikely event that the club would have to cover his full salary (£80,000 per week), just over £1.1m is a small price to pay for automatic promotion, given they are just over 14 weeks between now and the end of the season!

The Leeds management team seem to be happy with their squad this window, and have struggled to find players who would significantly improve their starting eleven. But, in Buendia's case, the opportunity presents itself as a clear option to enhance the Leeds attack. Given the player's availability and quality, a move for Buendia could be a very straightforward and sensible acquisition for Leeds. Leeds stance in the January market has never been an unwillingness to strengthen, it's more not been able to find the players that would significantly improve their starting XI, but in Buendia's cas, it's a no brainer.





Debayo set to miss out on loan move

As things go, James Debayo is set to miss out on a loan move, to act as cover in-case of an injury crisis at Elland Road. That's according to Daniel Farke, speaking ahead of Wednesday nights game against former club Norwich City, who themselves have eight players missing through injury and suspension. With Wober's injury record, the gaffer is worried about the lack of cover at centre back, despite the likes of Ethan Ampadu and Joshua Guilavogui both experienced in this position. Given Debayo's one minute of game time from all competitions this season, is it not more likely that the gaffer would throw a seasoned professional like Joe Rothwell in as an emergency centre-back before experimenting with the 19yo?

We’ve allowed Joffy and Charlie, but it is important we don’t overdo it. With Pascal out, Max Wober’s availability has not been that great, I am a bit careful with doing this [letting Debayo go on loan]. At the moment, we have to make sure in terms of quality numbers, the group is not getting too small. Yes it is a possibility, but only a small possibility and only in the last few days of the window

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Morning all, Buendia could be the final piece of the puzzle and he’s obviously available so DF & the board have no excuses if they don’t go for him.
Probably a good decision re Debayo, should have had a run out in the FA cup especially if we may potentially need to bring him in due to injuries. Sounds like they’re not planning to sign anyone else as cover and he will probably only get used as a last resort.
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I'd like Buendia but this idea that he buys us promotion is silly.

Tyler Roberts maybe.
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CUSSIE01 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:15 am Morning all, Buendia could be the final piece of the puzzle and he’s obviously available so DF & the board have no excuses if they don’t go for him.
Probably a good decision re Debayo, should have had a run out in the FA cup especially if we may potentially need to bring him in due to injuries. Sounds like they’re not planning to sign anyone else as cover and he will probably only get used as a last resort.
But even against a bottom league 2 side, Debayo couldn't even make the bench, even with Rodon not in the starting XI.

Literally 1 minute out of a possible (nearly) 3000 minutes.
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There it is again the reference to Buendia being professional... it's the secret code word that the axe is going to fall and someone is about to get the chop.

Managers use the word professional to big up the player that they are going to get rid of for whatever reason.

Buendia is not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy... now go away.
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Irish Ian wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:30 am I'd like Buendia but this idea that he buys us promotion is silly.

Tyler Roberts maybe.
Had a lot of potential. Surplus to requirements at Birmingham. He's spent the season at Northampton.

He hasn't scored a goal since 2023.
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Sean_Nile wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:34 am There it is again the reference to Buendia being professional... it's the secret code word that the axe is going to fall and someone is about to get the chop.

Managers use the word professional to big up the player that they are going to get rid of for whatever reason.

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Ben Brereton-Diaz has signed for Sheffield Utd.

Surely a no brainer- it's only a loan!
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Given BBD's record since he left Blackburn I don't think it's a no brainer and I would trust the team that brought in Tanaka , Ramazani and Rothwell ahead of what seems to be a very scattergun approach by both Wilder and Parker both of whom seem to have more significant squad issues . I suspect there would be an interest from Leeds in Buendia and that there have been some approaches and that the player might be tempted unless there is something attractive from the Premiership or Europe . The downside of this is him hanging on for a few weeks to see if anything else materialises and then leaving us in the lurch late on in the window. The upside is that of all the names floated it would seem clear that he would unquestionably improve the squad and if match fit the team and could make a significant contribution to getting promotion over the line . I would say that if it was just down to the 2 clubs that this deal would be got over the line fairly quickly but both the player and his agents will probably be more difficult .
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Letting this opportunity pass to get Buendia in would be a mistake. I dont buy into this talk of bringing in another player can disrupt the squad harmony. I doubt Buendia is going to come in and stir things up, he doesnt seem to be complaining at not getting game time at Villa. I believe the players knowing his quality, would be pleased to have a player like him come in and strengthen the squad at this time of the season.
Its got to be worth a gamble, surely.
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Ellandback1 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:30 am But even against a bottom league 2 side, Debayo couldn't even make the bench, even with Rodon not in the starting XI.

Literally 1 minute out of a possible (nearly) 3000 minutes.
As I said it sounds like we’re unlikely to sign another defender and Debayo would only be used as a last resort. He’s still way down the pecking order & maybe DF is putting pressure on the board to splash the cash but I doubt it.
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The loan market is a free hit, and is taken advantage to the max by virtually every other club in the Championship except Leeds.

I don't get it....
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There are currently 2 loan players Rothwell and Solomon playing regularly in the team both of whom have made outstanding contributions despite the doubts expressed by many . Personally I would prefer a small number of high quality considered loans over an approach which maxes out the number of loans simply for the sake of squad numbers. It is usually the case that at the upper end of the quality scale that the club takes a larger hit on the contribution to wages which can impact on wage structures and PSR. It is rarely a free hit and I would think if the club are eying up a potential top quality loan addition that all of the factors need to be taken into account if there is a significant chance of getting somebody of that ilk in towards the end of the window.
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ruttermania wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:40 am Given BBD's record since he left Blackburn I don't think it's a no brainer and I would trust the team that brought in Tanaka , Ramazani and Rothwell ahead of what seems to be a very scattergun approach by both Wilder and Parker both of whom seem to have more significant squad issues . I suspect there would be an interest from Leeds in Buendia and that there have been some approaches and that the player might be tempted unless there is something attractive from the Premiership or Europe . The downside of this is him hanging on for a few weeks to see if anything else materialises and then leaving us in the lurch late on in the window. The upside is that of all the names floated it would seem clear that he would unquestionably improve the squad and if match fit the team and could make a significant contribution to getting promotion over the line . I would say that if it was just down to the 2 clubs that this deal would be got over the line fairly quickly but both the player and his agents will probably be more difficult .
Whilst BBD is a decent player I don't think I'd have him as a starter at Leeds in place of Aaronsen or even one of our wingers in the 10. He'd be a good squad player but I think he would want to be guaranteed games. Sheff U is a good fit for him given that he has played there before so he will be able to slot straight in with the way they play. For us you would think he'd get a few minutes of the bench until Farke felt that he could trust him. This is what makes a move for Buendia a different proposition. He knows exactly how Farke would want him to play and Farke knows and trusts him. As such Buendia coming to us ticks all the relevant boxes.
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ruttermania wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:40 am Given BBD's record since he left Blackburn I don't think it's a no brainer and I would trust the team that brought in Tanaka , Ramazani and Rothwell ahead of what seems to be a very scattergun approach by both Wilder and Parker both of whom seem to have more significant squad issues . I suspect there would be an interest from Leeds in Buendia and that there have been some approaches and that the player might be tempted unless there is something attractive from the Premiership or Europe . The downside of this is him hanging on for a few weeks to see if anything else materialises and then leaving us in the lurch late on in the window. The upside is that of all the names floated it would seem clear that he would unquestionably improve the squad and if match fit the team and could make a significant contribution to getting promotion over the line . I would say that if it was just down to the 2 clubs that this deal would be got over the line fairly quickly but both the player and his agents will probably be more difficult .
Don’t know if you’ve looked at the calendar lately, but we are already in the last few weeks. Ten days, to be precise. I can see this one playing out along the lines of “we tried, honestly we did, we threw everything at this, we even offered to go halves on his train fare up to Leeds, but in the end we couldn’t get the signature on the dotted line. C’est la vie, as we say in Churmany.”
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CUSSIE01 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:43 am As I said it sounds like we’re unlikely to sign another defender and Debayo would only be used as a last resort. He’s still way down the pecking order & maybe DF is putting pressure on the board to splash the cash but I doubt it.
There were the rumours in regard to Ben Davies. I reckon we have a potential move lined up for a versatile defender but we will wait until later in the window so as to assess Wober and Struyjk and see if there is the need. At present any defender coming in would need to be better than Rodon, Ampadu and Wober to start.
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Ellandback1 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:51 am The loan market is a free hit, and is taken advantage to the max by virtually every other club in the Championship except Leeds.

I don't get it....
I think it is tougher for us given the quality of the squad. Conor Roberts was an excellent loan signing for us. Using Cjay's metric of judging a loan signing as if the player he played instead of did nothing then Roberts alone was worth 4 points for us despite not many appearances. His goal against Leicester came when we were behind and was the springboard to us winning and his assist led to the equaliser v Huddersfield. If he hadn't have got injured for Wales then likely he would have ben starting games and even if he managed no other goals or assists it would have enabled Gray to move into midfield.

Rodon was an excellent loan signing last season too. Spence though showed the folly of reliance on a loan signing who may not fit into the team ethos etc. Anthony was a decent loan signing but didn't get much of a chance as he was probably the 4th best winger and we didn'toften have 2 other wingers injured.
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It’s always difficult to watch other clubs signing players, especially those around us. But would anyone want any of these players in our starting line up or even around the squad?

Diaz
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I think Buendia has provided a very convenient link for the club particularly given what emery has said. it’s a definite player they can point to at the end of the window as someone they tried to make a deal for.
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WhiteRose wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:55 pm It’s always difficult to watch other clubs signing players, especially those around us. But would anyone want any of these players in our starting line up or even around the squad?

Diaz
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Ashley barnes

I think Buendia has provided a very convenient link for the club particularly given what emery has said. it’s a definite player they can point to at the end of the window as someone they tried to make a deal for.

Ashley Barnes is a no nonsense fucker that everyone hates unless he lakes foryour team, we haveno one in our entire squad that gets up opposition noses, Barnes wouldn't pussyfoot about, he'd steam roll right through anyone in his way, a loan deal would've been a fair deal imho.
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mentalcase wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:15 pm Ashley Barnes is a no nonsense fucker that everyone hates unless he lakes foryour team, we haveno one in our entire squad that gets up opposition noses, Barnes wouldn't pussyfoot about, he'd steam roll right through anyone in his way, a loan deal would've been a fair deal imho.
He would have to get near the player first, did you see him at ER in the play-off semi final, let's just say, not overly mobile anymore IMO
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