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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 22nd January, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Chasing pack keep the pressure up

Sheffield Utd retook top spot in the Championship last night, coming from behind to beat Swansea City at the Liberty Stadium. Sunderland too kept the pressure up on the pacesetters, winning by a solitary goal at Pride Park, bringing them to within two pints of second placed Leeds. Burnley make the long arduous journey to bottom of the table Plymouth Argyle this evening hoping to narrow the gap between themselves and Sheffield Utd to two points.

Given Norwich's injury and suspension woes, Leeds are firm favourites to win tonight, and with another sell-out crowd behind them, should return to the top of the pile. There may be nineteen games left, but just like last season, we're looking at a four horse race- can Leeds keep their momentum going?





Blades make bold statement with Cannon capture

Sheffield Utd have won the race to sign Leicester City striker Tom Cannon in a deal worth £13m. The 22yo has already bagged 11 goals (from all competitions) for a poor Stoke side, struggling at the wrong end of the table.

He is joined by Southampton playmaker Ben Brereton Díaz, who returns to Bramall Lane, albeit on loan. Burnley have raised eyebrows by signing Oliver Sonne from Silkeborg, along with veteran pair Ashley Barnes and Jonjo Shelvey, whilst Sunderland have put together a £20m package for Roma midfielder Enzo le Fee.

All three are still actively pursuing new leads, whilst all remains quiet at Elland Road. Whether or not any of these players would improve the Leeds starting line-up is up for debate, but without at-least trying, we'll never find out! There are just 12 days remaining!


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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 22nd January) Chasing pack keep the pressure up

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Our rivals for promotion are adding to their squads but do we need to do the same?
Look at our bench on Sunday - Darlow, Firpo, Guilavogui, Gruev, Gnonto, Wober, Ramazani, Joseph and Schmidt. That's almost another good championship side and if you add Struijk and Bamford to that, it is.

Ashley Barnes and Jonjo Shelvey wouldn't even make our bench.
Tom Cannon probably would but he didn't get a sniff against us and ended up taking his frustration out on Meslier.
We may not have the quantity but we have the quality.

Results didn't go our way last night but I expected them both to win. As long as we do the same tonight, no problem.
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Chilli D wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:28 am Our rivals for promotion are adding to their squads but do we need to do the same?
Look at our bench on Sunday - Darlow, Firpo, Guilavogui, Gruev, Gnonto, Wober, Ramazani, Joseph and Schmidt. That's almost another good championship side and if you add Struijk and Bamford to that, it is.

Ashley Barnes and Jonjo Shelvey wouldn't even make our bench.
Tom Cannon probably would but he didn't get a sniff against us and ended up taking his frustration out on Meslier.
We may not have the quantity but we have the quality.

Results didn't go our way last night but I expected them both to win. As long as we do the same tonight, no problem.
Love your positivity. Good point about the bench, it's not a bad second string. Most would get in many fellow champo sides.

Agree that win needed tonight, but not the end of the world if not.
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The cries of the faithful rise up like smoke,
“Where is our deliverance? Who shall come to our aid? Yet the board is silent, like watchmen who slumber at their post... they turn on their bed, like a door on its hinge. A little sleep a little folding of the hands, and poverty comes like a thief in the night. The enemy mocks, and for scorn, says sing us a song, while the terraces wail with bitter tears.

Oh, Leeds, how the mighty have fallen!
Your lamp flickers, your strength fades as the twilight descends. Your stadium lies in ruin. The hands once strong have grown week. Unless you rise and act with haste,The shadow of ruin shall cover you, and your glory shall fade and be no more.
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Blunts grind out wins without ever really playing that well (not unlike Leicester last season), that's what gets you promoted. I think we need to finish above them to ensure we go up.

Perhaps there is activity going on in the background that we are unaware of, but it is a worry that our rivals are strengthening with good players at this level, whilst we appear not to be. If we don't, and we fail to go up, there'll be quite the backlash, I'd imagine. And it will cost Farke his job.
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Chilli D wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:28 am Our rivals for promotion are adding to their squads but do we need to do the same?
Look at our bench on Sunday - Darlow, Firpo, Guilavogui, Gruev, Gnonto, Wober, Ramazani, Joseph and Schmidt. That's almost another good championship side and if you add Struijk and Bamford to that, it is.

Ashley Barnes and Jonjo Shelvey wouldn't even make our bench.
Tom Cannon probably would but he didn't get a sniff against us and ended up taking his frustration out on Meslier.
We may not have the quantity but we have the quality.

Results didn't go our way last night but I expected them both to win. As long as we do the same tonight, no problem.
I totally get what you're saying about Ashley Barnes and Jonjo Shelvey but for me, Scott Parker is probably the best Manager in the Championship.
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Put these Managers in order

Danny Rohl
Daniel Farke
Chris Wilder
Scott Parker
Regis Le Bris
John Eustace
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Ellandback1 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:59 am Put these Managers in order

Danny Rohl
Daniel Farke
Chris Wilder
Scott Parker
Regis Le Bris
John Eustace
Alphabetical? ;-)
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:lol:
Clitheroe White wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:06 am Alphabetical? ;-)
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Chris Wilder
Scott Parker
John Eustace
Regis Le Bris
Danny Rohl
Daniel Farke

In order of the most hated to the least :)
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Here we go again, this could turn out to be another Farke bashing contest.
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Clitheroe White wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:06 am Alphabetical? ;-)
However you see fit. A bit like Dallas, I'd got in order of appearance!!!
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Ratscoot wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:41 am Chris Wilder
Scott Parker
John Eustace
Regis Le Bris
Danny Rohl
Daniel Farke

In order of the most hated to the least :)
I like it. :lol:
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Ellandback1 wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:59 am Put these Managers in order

Danny Rohl
Daniel Farke
Chris Wilder
Scott Parker
Regis Le Bris
John Eustace
Hard to really compare. Not in any order just thoughts on each of them.

Eustace seems decent against us with a negative style of play to frustrate us - yet then his team struggles against lesser teams when they have to force the issue. Would he then be a better fit for us than Farke, I would suggest not. A bit like how Man U were able to do well against Liverpool and Arsenal when they didn't have to try to take the game to the opposition. When they try to do it they look poor.

Le Bris at Sunderland has them seemingly punching above their weight. However the championship isn't that great so maybe 4th is simply the best of the rest once you take away the 3 sides with quality. Obviously still doing brilliantly to be the best of the rest, sort of like how Wenger continued to get Arsenal into the top 4 but was unable to compete for the title. WHether he would have the same success with the pressure here and as such the pressure on his players is uncertain. Sunderland to some degree don't have the pressure on them they are simply enjpying the ride, abit like Ipswich last year.

Scott Parker doing a decent job. Comparable to Farke really in that he has a team that should be competing at the top. For those moaning about our style of play though I don't think Parker's Burnley side are easy on the eye. Take away their keeper and they probably are simply play-off contenders.

Chris Wilder - can't knock him for what he is doing with Sheff U and what he has done before with them. Sheff U are his club. Yes he was away for a season, but the players are generally all ones he has brought in. So he has that advantage over the other managers in that he has players to fit how he wants to play whereas others may have better players but they might not quite fit in as well. I do though think that if we were playing as poorly as Sheff U seem to be that our fans would be in meltdown. They are winning but if I was a Sheff U fan I would be very worried about them coming straight back down with a meagre points haul again. They looked a much better side when he got them promoted a few years back. Would I want him at Leeds, probably not. i think he is suited to a 'smaller' club with his small man syndrome where he can rally the troops etc

Danny Rohl - doing an excellent job but similar to Sunderland are they just benefitting from a poor division and the fact they are reasonably well coached. Is there simply a dearth of poor managers in this division to go along with poor players. Similar to me to Carrick in that he is doing okay, maybe a bit better than you would expect but not really challennging for anything.

Danny Farke - Can't knock the job he is doing. There may be small gripes at times but nothing major. Yes he has a lot of talent in the squad and yes he is getting decent results out of them. Harmony in the squad looks good. Averted hangovers after both the relagtion season and the play-off loss season. Would he do as well at clubs like Sheff Wed or Sunderland - it is hard to know.
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Regardless of whether or not we sign anyone, if we dont go up i would imagine Farke would be lucky to keep his job for another season. He is doing well, with a better squad than last season so we cant really have any complaints if we dont go up this year.
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We have still only lost three games (all by a single goal) as opposed to six games at this time last season.
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weasel wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:21 pm Hard to really compare. Not in any order just thoughts on each of them.

Eustace seems decent against us with a negative style of play to frustrate us - yet then his team struggles against lesser teams when they have to force the issue. Would he then be a better fit for us than Farke, I would suggest not. A bit like how Man U were able to do well against Liverpool and Arsenal when they didn't have to try to take the game to the opposition. When they try to do it they look poor.

Le Bris at Sunderland has them seemingly punching above their weight. However the championship isn't that great so maybe 4th is simply the best of the rest once you take away the 3 sides with quality. Obviously still doing brilliantly to be the best of the rest, sort of like how Wenger continued to get Arsenal into the top 4 but was unable to compete for the title. WHether he would have the same success with the pressure here and as such the pressure on his players is uncertain. Sunderland to some degree don't have the pressure on them they are simply enjpying the ride, abit like Ipswich last year.

Scott Parker doing a decent job. Comparable to Farke really in that he has a team that should be competing at the top. For those moaning about our style of play though I don't think Parker's Burnley side are easy on the eye. Take away their keeper and they probably are simply play-off contenders.

Chris Wilder - can't knock him for what he is doing with Sheff U and what he has done before with them. Sheff U are his club. Yes he was away for a season, but the players are generally all ones he has brought in. So he has that advantage over the other managers in that he has players to fit how he wants to play whereas others may have better players but they might not quite fit in as well. I do though think that if we were playing as poorly as Sheff U seem to be that our fans would be in meltdown. They are winning but if I was a Sheff U fan I would be very worried about them coming straight back down with a meagre points haul again. They looked a much better side when he got them promoted a few years back. Would I want him at Leeds, probably not. i think he is suited to a 'smaller' club with his small man syndrome where he can rally the troops etc

Danny Rohl - doing an excellent job but similar to Sunderland are they just benefitting from a poor division and the fact they are reasonably well coached. Is there simply a dearth of poor managers in this division to go along with poor players. Similar to me to Carrick in that he is doing okay, maybe a bit better than you would expect but not really challennging for anything.

Danny Farke - Can't knock the job he is doing. There may be small gripes at times but nothing major. Yes he has a lot of talent in the squad and yes he is getting decent results out of them. Harmony in the squad looks good. Averted hangovers after both the relagtion season and the play-off loss season. Would he do as well at clubs like Sheff Wed or Sunderland - it is hard to know.
3 of those can only win promotion to have succeeded this season.

And I suspect whichever ends in the playoffs will get criticism as I imagine all 3 (us Burnley and Blunts) expect top 2.

Wilder, Parker and Farke are doing decent jobs I'd say

Eustace and Rohl are doing really good jobs given what they have to work with (especially Rohl given we know its chaos behind the scenes).

I think if you rank them on this season Regis Le Bris has been the standout.

Sunderland finished 16th last season and lost Jack Clarke who was easily the best player they have.

Another manager making a mockery of the Championship experience needed drivel.

With enough respect from his past big name player to turn down La Liga moves to join them.

Really young squad.

Had a terrible injury crisis as well.

Done a great job.
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Chilli D wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:28 am Our rivals for promotion are adding to their squads but do we need to do the same?
Look at our bench on Sunday - Darlow, Firpo, Guilavogui, Gruev, Gnonto, Wober, Ramazani, Joseph and Schmidt. That's almost another good championship side and if you add Struijk and Bamford to that, it is.

Ashley Barnes and Jonjo Shelvey wouldn't even make our bench.
Tom Cannon probably would but he didn't get a sniff against us and ended up taking his frustration out on Meslier.
We may not have the quantity but we have the quality.

Results didn't go our way last night but I expected them both to win. As long as we do the same tonight, no problem.
It was a good read till the end bit :tup:
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mentalcase wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:20 pm It was a good read till the end bit :tup:
😂
It was to emphasise that there were 11 players not starting MC
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Chilli D wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:54 pm 😂
It was to emphasise that there were 11 players not starting MC
I know :tup:
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