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Good Morning. It's Monday 17th February, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Leeds issue zero-tolerance policy towards hate crimes

Leeds United have issued a formal statement condemning discriminatory chanting of anti-Palestinian lyrics within a Manor Solomon Chant! Despite initial attempts to address the issue through social media and engagement with fan groups, the club has expressed disappointment that the chant has become increasingly prevalent at both home and away matches. Acknowledging numerous complaints from their own fanbase, Leeds United have reiterated their zero-tolerance policy towards hate crime and discriminatory abuse, emphasizing that such behaviour has no place at Elland Road. To tackle the issue directly, the club has identified specific sections of Elland Road stadium as the origin points of the discriminatory chant.

The statement pinpoints the Norman Hunter South Stand, particularly blocks FA5, FA6, SS5, and SS6, as areas of concern after monitoring recent home games. In response, they are implementing heightened security measures, including increased CCTV surveillance and steward presence in these identified blocks for all remaining home matches this season. The club warned that “action will be taken against any person who participates in the chant, including the issuing of a club banning order,” signaling a firm stance against the unacceptable behaviour.

The situation has sparked varied reactions, particularly on social media. Some have attempted to downplay the chant's severity, arguing that while distasteful, it lacks explicitly derogatory language. Many others have voiced outrage, questioning why the club has been seemingly quicker to act on this chant compared to the highly offensive chant regarding Wilfred Gnonto.

After monitoring the situation at recent home games, the origins of the chant at Elland Road appear to come from the Norman Hunter South Stand, particularly in blocks FA5, FA6, SS5, SS6. As a result, there will be an increased CCTV surveillance and stewarding presence in FA5, FA6, SS5 and SS6 at all home games between now and the end of the season and action will be taken against any person who participates in the chant, including the issuing of a club banning order.mDiscriminatory language can be reported by contacting your nearest steward or discreetly via the matchday incident text service by texting LEEDS and your message to 60006. Given what is at stake for the club in the weeks ahead, this is a time we need the fanbase to be united, not divided. Thank you for your co-operation.




Blades re-take top spot

Leeds need at-least a draw this evening if they are to return to the top of the pile following events over the weekend. Sheffield Utd reclaimed top spot for the first time in 2025 with 1-0 victory at Kenilworth Road, curtesy of a 79th minute strike from Anel Ahmedhodzic. It was enough to see the Blades go a point clear at the top of the Championship. Elsewhere, Burnley stay third on 65 points, four shy of Leeds in second, after being held to yet another 0-0 draw, their eleventh of the season. They may have gone over a thousand minutes without conceding a goal, but are starting to lose momentum due to problems at the other end of the pitch.


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Big game toneet!!!
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Yes indeed a big game tonight but in fairness they all are now that we approach the business end of the season.
We can afford to lose it and still be in a good position, Sunderland definitely cannot.
If we play like we have been, we will win though.
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Sunderland have very strong full backs. Will be interesting to see how they cope with Solomon and James, and how Bogle and Firpo cope with Cirkin and Hume.
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Isn't it strange that often the offended can use a bad word with impunity, yet the offender is always condemned for using the same word. (think Burnley vs Preston)

Lenny Bruce often argued that the intent behind words mattered more than the words themselves. He believed that language, no matter how offensive, should be judged in context rather than censored outright. His routines deconstructed slurs and controversial topics to expose hypocrisy and challenge societal norms.

This perspective influenced later debates on free speech, emphasizing that meaning and intention, not just vocabulary, should determine whether speech is harmful or protected.

Comedy, especially bad comedy is always a target for cancel culture just ask Andrew Lawrence who was deemed to say bad things about black players who missed penalties for England... but let's invite a Imam to ER and that will sort everything out with the Palestinians... innit?

By the way were there any Palestinians present at ER to be offended... can a curse uttered in a forrest with no one there to hear it, offend anyone.

It's a riddle like If God is all all powerful can he create a stone so heavy that he can not lift it?

You would wear your brain away to train oil trying to justify or condemn comedic chants. It's not OK when opposition fans do it but OK when we do it.

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It’s ok to have a hate preacher speaking at the pavilion though isn’t it - whose opinions include peados who pray to allah are better than normal law abiding people who don’t pray to allah - I find that an offensive and dangerous thing to encourage especially with the back drop of gangs in this country. But it’s allowed because he belongs to a section of society who can permanently offend but must not be offended - these double standards need to go.
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The Andrew Lawrence story:

Offence is taken not given... say the wrong thing and you will be cancelled or at least banned from ER... Be careful out there people!!!

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WhiteRose wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:19 am It’s ok to have a hate preacher speaking at the pavilion though isn’t it - whose opinions include peados who pray to allah are better than normal law abiding people who don’t pray to allah - I find that an offensive and dangerous thing to encourage especially with the back drop of gangs in this country. But it’s allowed because he belongs to a section of society who can permanently offend but must not be offended - these double standards need to go.
Agree WhiteRose.

It's all wrong, but I detest politics & religion interfering with football.
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Anyway, I'm looking forward to the game.
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1964white wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:08 pm Anyway, I'm looking forward to the game.
Ditto.... don't like political breakfast threads when we already have two unreadable ones already
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The Subhuman wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:19 pm Ditto.... don't like political breakfast threads when we already have two unreadable ones already
It's safe to ignore politics and religion... that is until they begin to impinge upon your life.
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After our home game with West Brom (March 1st), we have 11 games left, nine of which are against teams currently in the bottom half. Bristol City and Boro are the exceptions.
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I expect a tight game, but also a good open game, United don't know how to sit back and defend, sunderland are an attacking side, hope our full backs are on their game tonight.
Hopefully sunderland leave gaps for James & Solomon to get into.
For me, it's all about the finishing.

Typical of LUFC to but blame on their own fans yet invite hate preachers to ER for the cause of multi-culturism.
You'd have thought the American owners would have thought long and hard about this subject wouldn't you !!!!
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mentalcase wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:35 pm Typical of LUFC to but blame on their own fans yet invite hate preachers to ER for the cause of multi-culturism.
MC - What do you mean by this? Interested as I must have missed something [genuine question]
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mentalcase wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:35 pm I expect a tight game, but also a good open game, United don't know how to sit back and defend, sunderland are an attacking side, hope our full backs are on their game tonight.
Hopefully sunderland leave gaps for James & Solomon to get into.
For me, it's all about the finishing.
Very true MC
And the goal keeping ;-)
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Sean_Nile wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:53 am Isn't it strange that often the offended can use a bad word with impunity, yet the offender is always condemned for using the same word. (think Burnley vs Preston)

Lenny Bruce often argued that the intent behind words mattered more than the words themselves. He believed that language, no matter how offensive, should be judged in context rather than censored outright. His routines deconstructed slurs and controversial topics to expose hypocrisy and challenge societal norms.

This perspective influenced later debates on free speech, emphasizing that meaning and intention, not just vocabulary, should determine whether speech is harmful or protected.

Comedy, especially bad comedy is always a target for cancel culture just ask Andrew Lawrence who was deemed to say bad things about black players who missed penalties for England... but let's invite a Imam to ER and that will sort everything out with the Palestinians... innit?

By the way were there any Palestinians present at ER to be offended... can a curse uttered in a forrest with no one there to hear it, offend anyone.

It's a riddle like If God is all all powerful can he create a stone so heavy that he can not lift it?

You would wear your brain away to train oil trying to justify or condemn comedic chants. It's not OK when opposition fans do it but OK when we do it.

What every happened to Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me?
You make an interesting point regarding the intent to offend. If those singing the Manor Solomon song were to change the word hate to love, the intention to 'wind up' would still be there - BUT would it constitute 'unacceptable behaviour'?
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Clitheroe White wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:59 pm MC - What do you mean by this? Interested as I must have missed something [genuine question]
See this clitheroe
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If that is allowed to go ahead I won't go to ER again .
f**king disgraceful
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Clitheroe White wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:59 pm MC - What do you mean by this? Interested as I must have missed something [genuine question]
Mohamed Hoblos had been scheduled to ATTEND the One 'Ummah’s Together As One Ramadan Tour'. One of the stages is going to be Elland Road. If truth be known, he won't be able to get past passport control....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/0 ... eak-in-uk/
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Ellandback1 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:23 pm Mohamed Hoblos had been scheduled to ATTEND the One 'Ummah’s Together As One Ramadan Tour'. One of the stages is going to be Elland Road. If truth be known, he won't be able to get past passport control....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/0 ... eak-in-uk/
Thanks MC and EB for sharing. Hadn't seen that. It doesn't exactly promote harmony! As you say, he's likely to not make through the border.

Could you imagine trying to stop Spurs fans from singing the manor song. We also have a very committed Jewish fan base from N. Leeds.

Bottom line - we should leave politics at the door on the way in...should not be relevant in sport. Therefore we should not sing about Palestine.
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