The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 24th March) Whites reignite Elvedi interest

[Ellandback1]

Good Morning. It's Monday 24th March, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Whites reignite Elvedi interest

Leeds United could be set to reignite their interest in Borussia Monchengladbach defender Nico Elvedi this summer if they achieve promotion to the Premier League, according to prominent journalist Ben Jacobs.

Despite their ongoing Championship drama, the Whites are already looking ahead, and lining up potential targets for a Premier League campaign. Elvedi, a seasoned international with considerable Bundesliga experience, has re-emerged as a key name. Jacobs suggests the Swiss star would be open to a move to the English top tier.

A crucial factor in this potential transfer is Elvedi's prior relationship with current Leeds manager Daniel Farke. The pair previously worked together at Monchengladbach, fostering a familiarity and understanding that could prove pivotal. If Leeds secure a top-two finish, Farke could look to bring in a player he knows and trusts.

While Elvedi reportedly wasn't keen on a move to the Championship, the prospect of Premier League football is said to be appealing. His versatility, capable of playing centre-back and wing-back, further enhances his usefulness. He'll have two years left on his contract, and is likely to cost in the region of £10m.

While Elvedi's experience is undeniable, he will be 29 years old by the start of next season. Leeds fans will be all too aware of older players outstaying their welcome. Does his experience and versatility outweigh the potential risks associated with his age? A Premier League campaign demands a squad with a blend of youth and experience, and finding the right balance will be crucial.





Have Leeds written off Joffy too early

Joe Gelhardt has found a new lease on life at Hull City, and the statistics are proving his worth. According to 'Whoscored', the young forward is now the Tigers' second-best player, a stark contrast to his desolate spell on the Leeds bench.

Joffy's time at Leeds this season was nothing short of barren, accumulating a mere nine minutes of game time. The previous campaign wasn't much better, clocking only 191 minutes. However, since arriving at Hull City, he's been thrust straight into the action, starting eleven out of twelve games. His impact has been undeniable; Hull has picked up a respectable 18 points during this period, a significantly improved ratio compared to their form before his arrival.

Hull City manager Ruben Selles has experimented with him in various positions, but he seems to have found his niche in the No 10 role. In the five games he's played there, Gelhardt has bagged two goals and earned an impressive average rating of 7.16. Interestingly, if he had maintained that rating within the Leeds squad, it would place him second in their roster, a testament to his untapped potential.

This begs the question: have Leeds United been too quick to dismiss him? His performances at Hull City suggest a player brimming with talent and eager to prove himself. Could he still have a future at Elland Road? Perhaps a reassessment is in order, as Gelhardt's Hull City resurgence paints a picture of a player capable of significant contribution.

[Irish Ian]

This Joffy story is a bit like the Greenwood story from last season.

I like him and he is our player so we should be happy he is doing well instead of drawing negative comparisons with his time at Leeds.

He just got bumped bown the pecking order by a series of players.

Pity one of them was Aaronson but there ya go

[Sean_Nile]

Joe is player overlooked, benched, and deemed surplus to requirements who finds himself sent away on loan, a mere afterthought to his parent club.

Yet, in new surroundings, free from the weight of doubt, he flourishes, turning in winning performances, earning plaudits, and proving his worth.

Meanwhile, the club that dismissed him struggles, to find a true number 10, a job that Joe could fulfill... their misjudgment becoming painfully clear with each highlight reel of his success elsewhere... and memories of when under Bielsa he was often brought on to win a losing match.

That fact of the matter is by the time Leeds realize their mistake, he is no longer just a loanee, but they have lost him, not just physically, but in spirit, as he thrives where he is truly valued.

Leeds have let so many young talent go for a pittance, and have seen them have success elsewhere.

[The Subhuman]

This Joffy story is a bit like the Greenwood story from last season.

I like him and he is our player so we should be happy he is doing well instead of drawing negative comparisons with his time at Leeds.

He just got bumped bown the pecking order by a series of players.

Pity one of them was Aaronson but there ya go

Joffy was always a class above Greenwood. Greenwood is a good championship player, Joffy for me is mid/lower prem quality atm

[The Subhuman]

Roll on the weekend ...

[Chilli D]

I said two/three years ago that Joffy's best position was at 10 and I wasn't the only one.
My guess is he will get a permanent move somewhere this summer especially if we get promoted.

[Ellandback1]

This Joffy story is a bit like the Greenwood story from last season.

I like him and he is our player so we should be happy he is doing well instead of drawing negative comparisons with his time at Leeds.

He just got bumped bown the pecking order by a series of players.

Pity one of them was Aaronson but there ya go

Both have been mismanaged imo.

Leeds aren't good decision makers when it comes to their players going off on loan.

[The Subhuman]

Both have been mismanaged imo.

Leeds aren't good decision makers when it comes to their players going off on loan.

We don't seem to loan for experience but as a door for a player to pass out of at a later date... Can't recall the last player we loaned down that became a first team player

[1964white]

I said two/three years ago that Joffy's best position was at 10 and I wasn't the only one.
My guess is he will get a permanent move somewhere this summer especially if we get promoted.

Hull or another championship club.

[1964white]

We don't seem to loan for experience but as a door for a player to pass out of at a later date... Can't recall the last player we loaned down that became a first team player

How many players have we loaned out go on to achieve success at another club for a sustained period?

I suspect many of the academy kids we released are no longer playing in any of the four English leagues.

[Irish Ian]

We don't seem to loan for experience but as a door for a player to pass out of at a later date... Can't recall the last player we loaned down that became a first team player

We did lon Joffy out.

[1964white]

I'm pleased Joffy is doing well.

[Irish Ian]

Both have been mismanaged imo.

Leeds aren't good decision makers when it comes to their players going off on loan.

Just becuase they go off on loan is no guarantee they come back improved for our needs.

Many have went and didnt. It is the nature of the game.


We also dont have the luxury of blooding players when you are fighting for PL survival or promotion either.

[Ellandback1]

We don't seem to loan for experience but as a door for a player to pass out of at a later date... Can't recall the last player we loaned down that became a first team player

Very well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The last one was Klich!

Before that, it was Beckford!

[Ellandback1]

Just becuase they go off on loan is no guarantee they come back improved for our needs.

Many have went and didnt. It is the nature of the game.


We also dont have the luxury of blooding players when you are fighting for PL survival or promotion either.

Great points, but as Subhuman pointed out, our outward loanee's are been horrifically awful!

[Ellandback1]

We did lon Joffy out.

Yeah, and he did well at Sunderland tbh, even though he had to play out of position due o injuries to other players - but we didn't build on that. He was allowed to stagnate on the bench

[Irish Ian]

Yeah, and he did well at Sunderland tbh, even though he had to play out of position due o injuries to other players - but we didn't build on that. He was allowed to stagnate on the bench

Perhaps if he had been better than Rutter would he have been allowed to play more, thats life in Professional sport.

It was in the clubs interests for Joffy to break through but he was never in a position to do so.

And recall when he did get games he hardly shone

[Irish Ian]

Great points, but as Subhuman pointed out, our outward loanee's are been horrifically awful!

Thats because we buy players on a punt that they will turn out.

Most dont and that is life

But you say that we are particularly bad, perhaps there are just a few clubs who are good at it and we are like the majority?

[DDB220]

Part of the problem is that we have never had a strong enough 1st team squad in the last 6 years or so. We have relied on our best youngsters coming through to bolster the first team squad and thus minimise the options for them to gain competitive experience going out on loan.

If we can stabilise in the prem, assuming we go up, then the 1st team squad will fill out naturally as will the under 21’s and we will be in a better position to loan out promising talent with a view to bringing them on.

[The Subhuman]

We did lon Joffy out.

After he became a first team player IIRC