The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 9th May) - Should Leeds bet on experience with Phillips and Vardy?

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Breakfast Debate The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 9th May) - Should Leeds bet on experience with Phillips and Vardy?

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Good Morning. It's Friday 9th May, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Phillips loan move makes sense

It wouldn't truly feel like a Leeds United summer transfer window without the familiar buzz of former players being linked with a return. It's a recurring theme that often gets fans talking, and this Summer is no different. As anticipated, Kalvin Phillips' name has already surfaced, but this particular rumour feels like it might just have more substance than usual. Speculation is mounting that the former England international could make a return to Elland Road, potentially on a loan deal.

To be frank, bringing Kalvin Phillips back wouldn't necessarily be the worst move Leeds could make right now. While his career trajectory has stalled somewhat over the past two or three seasons, struggling for game time at Manchester City and during loan spells at West Ham and Ipswich, a return to his boyhood club and familiar surroundings at Elland Road could be the catalyst he needs to reignite his career. Crucially, multiple sources suggest that Phillips himself is keen on the idea and genuinely wants to come back.

Following his return to Manchester City from relegated Ipswich, and with Rodri firmly established in Pep Guardiola's midfield, Phillips is widely expected to be surplus to requirements at the Etihad. This opens the door for a potential move. Transfer expert Graeme Bailey recently shared insights with LeedsUnited.News, reinforcing the growing belief that Phillips is eyeing a return to West Yorkshire on loan.

The prospect of Phillips returning, even temporarily, offers clear benefits. Leeds would acquire a player with undeniable quality and a deep connection to the club and its fanbase, potentially boosting the midfield significantly. For Phillips, it's a chance to escape a frustrating period, gain vital minutes, and rediscover his best form in an environment where he is loved and understood. While not a done deal yet, the stars seem to be aligning for a potentially significant Elland Road comeback story.

Leeds are looking at the Phillips situation intently. He wants to come back. It won’t be a permanent deal, I think it’s the perfect opportunity for Leeds . Leeds should do everything they can to bring him back. He could be extraordinarily good. He’s still a very good Premier League player. He’s made some wrong decisions, he should have gone to Newcastle but I’d be surprised if they decide not to bring Phillips back. He is one of Leeds top targets this window, loan with an option. Leeds will have no issue matching what Ipswich are paying . My understanding is he wants to come back, Leeds want him. I think it gets done.




Vardy twelve month deal?

Leicester City icon Jamie Vardy is set to embark on a new chapter in his illustrious career. At 38 years old, the veteran striker has confirmed he will be leaving the King Power Stadium at the end of his contract this Summer, bringing an end to a remarkable 13-year spell with the Foxes.

With his time at Leicester drawing to a close, Vardy's representatives are already actively working to secure his next destination. As is common practice when a high-profile player becomes available, agents reach out to potential suitors across the footballing landscape. One club reportedly contacted is Leeds United. Whilst his best days are behind him, his experience, positional play and eye for goal should not be ignored.

He's netted eight goals and provided three assists during 2670 minutes of game time for a very poor Leicester City side this season. If Leeds are able to offload Patrick Bamford this Summer, than surely Vardy is a better option, especially as a freebee?





FA investigating Ampadu over parade chant

Leeds skipper Ethan Ampadu is reportedly under investigation by the Football Association (FA) following an incident during the club's open-top bus parade through the city centre on Monday. The Welsh international was a central figure in the celebrations marking Leeds' promotion back to the Premier League. However, attention has now turned to a moment during the parade where Ampadu is alleged to have led fans in the infamous chant about teammate Wilfred Gnonto. The chant in question has been described as "crude" and has previously drawn significant criticism throughout the season. It gained notoriety and condemnation from anti-discriminatory groups, including 'Kick It Out', earlier in the campaign due to its nature.

According to a report in 'The Telegraph', the governing body is aware of video footage circulating from the parade which captures the incident. The newspaper states that the FA will now look into the matter. While the specific grounds for the investigation have not been detailed, the FA's rules cover conduct that brings the game into disrepute. The controversy surrounding the chant earlier in the season suggests it could potentially fall under this category, especially given its public nature during a major club event.

As captain, Ampadu holds a prominent position at the club and his conduct is subject to scrutiny. The FA's review of the footage will likely assess whether the player's actions breached any regulations. At this stage, the investigation is understood to be in its initial phases, with the FA reviewing the available evidence. It remains to be seen what, if any, action the governing body may decide to take following their inquiry into the matter. Leeds United have not yet publicly commented on the report.


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Re Amps and the FA, anything to stick the boot into us, eh?

Whilst I would be hesitant about KP coming back, maybe a loan, with City picking up the bulk of his wages, wouldn't be the worst move in the world? If it is going to happen, it needs to happen quickly so he can have a full pre-season to work on his fitness etc. He cannot be match fit having had so little game time with Ipswich.

Vardy five years ago, absolutely. Now, at 38, no thanks.
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If it causes such anguish, the club would be well advised to just release a naked picture of Willy, and put to bed any rumours.

Phillips = No, going backwards.
Vardy = No, double going backwards and actually into reverse.
Joseph = Be thankful to get some money back what was paid for him, although a loan could work.
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I didn't watch that much of the parade so no knowledgable opinon on Amps

OK with Phillips back, knows the club, knows the fans and about as good a squad player as we could get. A better option assuming we play a second defensive mid (now is the time for the handbrake football we played before Christmas..)

No to Vardy.... May as well keep Paddy
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It's looking likely Ampadu is going to be handing over a chunk of his promotion bonus to the FA as a fine.

WRT Phillips we need to take off the rose tinted glasses, he's been poor since he left & we're going to need better next season, the 49ers don't have the emotional link to KP that we fans do, and he'll not be high on their analytics charts.

The Vardy talk is pure comedy, his legs have gone. If he still presented a goal threat Leicester would offer him another year to ensure they immediately bounce back. Clearly his agent's working hard dropping hints to the usual rubbish click bait 'journalistic sites'
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In a bizarre twist that has pundits baffled and physios in tears, Jamie Vardy and Zlatan Ibrahimović have joined forces to spearhead a campaign demanding that Premier League footballers be allowed to use walking sticks on the pitch.

Citing “ageing gracefully” and “tactical poking” as key benefits, the duo strutted into FA headquarters, Vardy with a leopard-print cane and Zlatan wielding a staff carved from what he claims is wood from Odin’s tree, insisting that the time has come for football to embrace the elegance of assisted locomotion, and to take a stance against age discrimination in football.

“This is not weakness,” Zlatan boomed. “This is evolution. Also, I can score with stick.” Vardy added, “We’ll call it ‘Stickball.’” The petition reportedly already has signatures from Peter Crouch, who called it “a dream,” and Roy Keane, who signed just so he could use one as a weapon. Messi has made no comment.

Geoff Hurst is said to be thinking about a campaign for motorized wheelchairs in football.
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Wonder why they would charge Amps? Did they consider it racist, considering he's mixed race?

I'd take Phillips on loan or for less than £10m, but his salary is too high. All he needs is to start smiling again and the form will pick up, not to mention his passing range would bring a lot from midfield. Could play on the counter attack with diagonal balls to speedy wingers.

I'd defo take Vardy for a season, he's still hungry and is a big game player. He wouldn't be a starter but for 15-20 games a season, he could be the difference. Shame we'd have to take his abhorrent wife as part of the deal though.
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Vardy and Phillips would signal a major lack of ambition. We have a finite amount of funds and neither of these strikes me as getting an optimal return on spend.

As for the FA - have they nothing else to worry about. Wokeism on steroids. Get over it.
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Kalvin is way past his best and would not be a viable option, his wages are a big problem.
Vardy is a great striker bit at 38 he is no longer a Premier League player imo.

We need to move forward and sentiment can not play any part in squad decisions, mine you I would definitely take Archie Gray back
in an instant because he is a massive talent and needs the correct manager to get the best out of him.
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We need better than both of those . Need to be considering starters and not benchwarmers
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I remember Ampadu singing the Gnonto song on the bus and was a bit surprised. But (a) I didn't hear him sing the offensive line (maybe he did). And (b) I thought it was only ever requested by the club to not sing it and never escalated to anything outside the club.
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Phillips and Vardy signings are both fine with me. Neither would take a lot of money out of the kitty. We're going to need a bigger squad, more quality, and experience. We need to start looking at young 20 somethings with high potential. But those do cost a lot of money and always come at a risk. We are a young squad and do lack for experience. So we'll need a mixture of signings.

Frankly though, I'm just going to leave it up to the club and go with the flow.
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No.
If we got rid of Bamford we’d be swapping one stinky old person for another.
Not a fan of going back so no to Phillips as well.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 4:46 pm Phillips and Vardy signings are both fine with me. Neither would take a lot of money out of the kitty. We're going to need a bigger squad, more quality, and experience. We need to start looking at young 20 somethings with high potential. But those do cost a lot of money and always come at a risk. We are a young squad and do lack for experience. So we'll need a mixture of signings.

Frankly though, I'm just going to leave it up to the club and go with the flow.
Agree with all that Andrew.
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Vardy , yes
Phillips, god no no no

I notice there has been total silence again from the corrupt officials who tried their damnest on saturday to derail the championship title win, yet another bent official cancelling a good goal for offside, luckily, we stuck to the task and broke the officials and burnleys collective hearts.
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What if Farke wants Phillips ? Which would likely to be true if he did return.
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If we knew no more about Phillips than any other prem squad player why would be going anywhere near based on what we would have seen or read over the last couple of years
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The Subhuman wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 5:48 pm What if Farke wants Phillips ? Which would likely to be true if he did return.
I think Phillips would really knuckle down for us. Its the club he supports and he has had 3 years of absolute misery so this wouid be his last chance....and I think ge could do a job for us.
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How unprofessional does that make Phillips then if we seem to think that he will give more for us than City West Ham and Ipswich bearing in mind the latter two were opportunities to get his career going again
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