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Good Morning. It's Monday 27th October, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road…


Leeds return to winning ways against Hammers

Daniel Farke’s Leeds Utd finally gave the fans something to smile about on Friday night, grinding out a nervy but vital 2-1 win over West Ham at Elland Road. The three points couldn’t have come at a better time after a miserable run that had seen just one win in eight. The result lifted the Whites up to 15th in the table, six points clear of the drop zone.

The evening started in dream fashion. Barely three minutes in, Jayden Bogle whipped a teasing delivery into the West Ham box, Noah Okafor’s clever header forced a sharp save from Areola, and Brenden Aaronson was on hand to stab home from close range. It was a statement goal from a player who went on to have his best game in a Leeds shirt. For a while, it looked like Farke’s men might run riot. Twelve minutes later, a Longstaff corner found Joe Rodon stealing free of Lucas Paquetá’s attention, and the defender thundered in a header to double the lead, as the stadium rocked.

But when have Leeds ever made things simple? The game soon turned scrappy. Injuries disrupted the rhythm; both Scarles and Gabriel Gudmundsson were forced off, and chances came and went at both ends. West Ham thought they’d pulled one back when Paquetá hammered in after a fortunate bounce, only for VAR to chalk it off for offside. That reprieve didn’t do much to calm Leeds nerves, though, as the visitors began to find their footing.

As the minutes ticked away, Leeds continued to press but couldn’t find the killer third. Okafor curled just wide, and Bogle’s drive drew another fine stop from Areola. Then came the inevitable late drama—Fernandes glancing home a Jarrod Bowen cross in the 90th minute to set up a tense finale. Fortunately for Farke, his side held firm through four anxious minutes of stoppage time. It wasn’t pretty, it wasn’t comfortable, but it was absolutely necessary. Leeds might never do it the easy way, but this hard-fought victory could prove priceless in the battle for Premier League safety.





Medford Messi on fire

Brenden Aaronson delivered his finest performance in a Leeds United shirt during the 2–1 win over West Ham on Friday night. Many supporters had called for him to be dropped, yet Daniel Farke kept faith with the American for a sixth consecutive Premier League start, and was richly rewarded.

Aaronson needed just three minutes to open the scoring, a simple finish that meant the world to a player who had been wrestling with self-doubt. The celebration that followed showed a man liberated, playing with freedom and grit rather than fear. From that point on, he looked reborn—pressing with purpose, gliding through challenges, and nearly adding a wonder goal after dancing past four defenders before rattling the crossbar.

His performance didn’t go unnoticed. Leeds fans handed him 62% of the Man of the Match vote, while Troy Deeney named him in his BBC Sport Team of the Week, describing his display as “monstrous.” Deeney also praised Farke’s bold decision to start him ahead of Jack Harrison and Dan James, calling Aaronson a “difference maker.”

According to the trusted WhoScored system, his 8.58 rating made him the standout performer across both sides; proof of how influential he was in every phase of play. It’s easy to forget how much Aaronson has adapted since his last spell in the Premier League. Often misused last season as a No. 10, he’s far more effective as a box-to-box midfielder, where his energy and timing between the lines shine brightest.

Against West Ham, he combined his trademark stamina with strength and composure, drawing fouls intelligently and driving Leeds forward at every opportunity. In contrast, AO Tanaka, ranked 10th with a poor 6.42 rating could certainly take a page from Aaronson’s book when it comes to using movement and physical presence to influence games.

Beyond cementing his place in the Leeds XI, he’s battling for inclusion in Mauricio Pochettino’s USA squad ahead of a home World Cup next summer. Performances like Friday’s suggest he’s ready to prove he offers more than relentless running. If he maintains this level, Leeds may have rediscovered not just their Medford Messi, but a midfielder capable of driving their season forward.





Calls for DCL to be dropped against Brighton

Calls are growing louder among the Elland Road faithful for Dominic Calvert-Lewin to be dropped from the starting lineup against Brighton this weekend. The striker, signed from Everton during the summer, has endured a difficult spell at Elland Road, finding the net just once this season. His early promise marked by a sharp finish against Wolves has faded quickly, leaving fans and pundits questioning his place in Daniel Farke’s plans.

Despite a steady supply of half chances, the team have lacked a clinical edge in front of goal. Much of that frustration has been directed toward Calvert-Lewin, whose finishing has fallen well below expectations. Statistical analysis highlights the depth of his struggles: he has underperformed his expected goals (xG) by an alarming 10.4 since the start of last season, the worst return among Premier League forwards over that period. For a player once tipped to become England’s next top striker, such numbers paint a concerning picture.

With Leeds aiming to climb away from danger, pressure is mounting for change. Some analysts and media outlets have suggested Joel Piroe as a viable alternative to lead the attack. Piroe’s prowess in front of goal and movement could offer the spark Leeds need to convert their chances into goals. However, manager Daniel Farke remains publicly loyal to Calvert-Lewin, emphasizing his hold-up play, aerial prowess, and relentless work rate as key assets that extend beyond his goal tally.

Still, patience among supporters may be wearing thin. Leeds have shown resilience and creativity in recent matches, but without a reliable finisher, their attacking efforts risk going unrewarded. The trip to Brighton now looms as a pivotal moment—not only for Leeds United’s season but also for Calvert-Lewin’s future in the starting eleven. Whether Farke opts for loyalty or change could shape the narrative of the club’s campaign in the weeks to come.


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Presumably calls from the Leeds faithful to drop DCL are predominantly sourced from twatter ?

I just do not see Piroe flourishing as a starter in the way we set up tactically. We are far more direct and need a target man. But I would like to see more of him without a doubt.
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Aaronson had a huge game on Friday night. Hopefully he can back it up at Brighton. Putting Aaronson and Messi into the same sentence is a bit of a stretch.

DCL made a massive contribution against W Ham. Needs to rattle the net a few times though. We don’t really have another credible option, regardless of what the supporters think.
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DCL is vital to us and we need to get him fit enough to see out the full 90 mins plus stoppages as we miss him when he's subbed off. Same goes for Aaronson as we are conceding late in games and Farke now needs to look at his substitutions when protecting a lead and come up with a different strategy.

With that in mind Gruev isn't the answer but maybe Struijk and possibly Byram might be.
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Pullhard wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:14 am Aaronson had a huge game on Friday night. Hopefully he can back it up at Brighton. Putting Aaronson and Messi into the same sentence is a bit of a stretch.

DCL made a massive contribution against W Ham. Needs to rattle the net a few times though. We don’t really have another credible option, regardless of what the supporters think.
Aaronson and messy works better.

I still think he's awful.
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A great result against Wet Spam on Friday but why did Farke send them out to defend a two goal lead in the second half against one of the weakest sides in the Premiership rather than taking the game to them and scoring a third goal which would have ended the match as a contest. His tactics in the second half could easily have resulted in a draw, or perish the thought worse. To concede possession for the majority of the second half baffles me I'm afraid.
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Tom the Cat wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:02 am A great result against Wet Spam on Friday but why did Farke send them out to defend a two goal lead in the second half against one of the weakest sides in the Premiership rather than taking the game to them and scoring a third goal which would have ended the match as a contest. His tactics in the second half could easily have resulted in a draw, or perish the thought worse. To concede possession for the majority of the second half baffles me I'm afraid.
It is not neccesairly the tactics but the state of the game. At 2-0 down West Ham were always going to take more risks, commit more players forward and take the game to us. I thought we dealt with the West Ham threat in the second half brilliantly as we looked by far the more likely to score with our breakaways. The West Ham threat was virtually non existent in the second half, I can't recall Perri having to do anything of note until the goal went in. For me West Ham threatened more in the first half with Bowen's shot, Soucek's header and the disallowed goal.

With a bit more quality with our final ball we could easily have added a third, and more, in the second half. I made a point elsewhere that Wolves looked far more threatening in the second half against us than West Ham did so for me I think we should be praising our defensive solidity, shape formation whatever as it kept West Ham out bar for the goal. There was little to no threat before the goal or after it (and even the goal was a chance out of nothing - would imagine the xg for the goal was very low as a more forceful header is likely saved). We doubled up when needed, especially against Bowen and Summerville, and we can't do that if we are trying too hard to get a third.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:58 am Aaronson and messy works better.

I still think he's awful.
I think we know that by now Ian but I thought you might have given him a morsel of praise for Friday’s performance.
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Jammy 07 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:27 am DCL is vital to us and we need to get him fit enough to see out the full 90 mins plus stoppages as we miss him when he's subbed off. Same goes for Aaronson as we are conceding late in games and Farke now needs to look at his substitutions when protecting a lead and come up with a different strategy.

With that in mind Gruev isn't the answer but maybe Struijk and possibly Byram might be.
Could we get more out of him if he played 60 minutes - perhaps keep him fitter too???
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Sunderland 2-1 win over Chelsea. Leeds 2-1 win over West Ham.
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Success comes from the low block to frustrate the opposition, and is a technique implimented by both managers that secured them the win... but yet we hear the crowd baying for full steam ahead attack.

Gung ho tactics may be more exciting to watch, but it is equally exciting wondering if you will hold on to your lead. Attack if you are chasing the game... defend if you are winning is a bitter pill that fans will have to learn to swallow... but that may be the route to survival.
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“ His performance didn’t go unnoticed. Leeds fans handed him 62% of the Man of the Match vote, while Troy Deeney named him in his BBC Sport Team of the Week, describing his display as “monstrous.” Deeney also praised Farke’s bold decision to start him ahead of Jack Harrison and Dan James, calling Aaronson a “difference maker.”

According to the trusted WhoScored system, his 8.58 rating made him the standout performer across both sides; proof of how influential he was in every phase of play. It’s easy to forget how much Aaronson has adapted since his last spell in the Premier League. Often misused last season as a No. 10, he’s far more effective as a box-to-box midfielder, where his energy and timing between the lines shine brightest. “

High praise indeed and fully justified imho, has anyone else in our team scored higher than 8.85 this season ? No doubt if he has a quieter game this weekend he’ll be back on a lot of people’s hate list though.

Not sure I agree with the calls to drop DCL against Brighton but he needs to start scoring as well as all the other things he gets praised for, at the end of last season most on here agreed that Piroe deserved a chance in the Prem but he hasn’t got it, maybe it’s time for a rethink. Another blank for DCL against Brighton and DF could be forced to give Joel his chance.

I still think we can get something out of the Brighton game , they shipped 4 goals against an average Scum team and are only 1 point better off than us, hopefully Gudmundsson can play and Okafor gets more minutes as they were excellent in the first half on Friday.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:58 am Aaronson and messy works better.

I still think he's awful.
Le plus ca change, n'est-ce pas?

Brenden was excellent on Friday. Hopefully that level of play will continue.

Calls for DCL to be benched aren't coming from me. He works his tail off. The goals will come.
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Lets say newly promoted teams to the premiership are considered weeker teams and they find themselves ahead in the game.

What is the best strategy to secure the win? Go defensive with a low block or continue to attack in the hope of scoring more goals?

Final Playbook for Weaker Teams

Never drop below 35 % possession after establishing a lead. Leave opportunities for counter attack.

Target 1 counter attack per 7–8 mins, enough to deter full press.

Use subs for fresh legs, bring them on at 70 minutes.

Foul strategically (midfield, 40–50m from goal) to break rhythm of opponents.

If second goal comes then shut up shop (2–0 = 97 % win rate).

Verdict: Don’t attack to dominate. Don’t defend to survive. Counter to kill.

Keep the threat alive... a single transition goal turns a 1–0 into a 2–0, and the data says that’s game over.
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Theoretical question.

Leeds stay up.

Would you offer Aaronson a new contract?

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Sean_Nile wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:24 pm Lets say newly promoted teams to the premiership are considered weeker teams and they find themselves ahead in the game.

What is the best strategy to secure the win? Go defensive with a low block or continue to attack in the hope of scoring more goals?

Final Playbook for Weaker Teams

Never drop below 35 % possession after establishing a lead. Leave opportunities for counter attack.

Target 1 counter attack per 7–8 mins, enough to deter full press.

Use subs for fresh legs, bring them on at 70 minutes.

Foul strategically (midfield, 40–50m from goal) to break rhythm of opponents.

If second goal comes then shut up shop (2–0 = 97 % win rate).

Verdict: Don’t attack to dominate. Don’t defend to survive. Counter to kill.

Keep the threat alive... a single transition goal turns a 1–0 into a 2–0, and the data says that’s game over.
Or not ...
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The Subhuman wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:31 pm Or not ...
I get the feeling that people were thrilled with the Bielsa possession based football and the full frontal attack as being the only way to play. So the idea of sitting back and defending is anathema to them. They get jittery when they sit back and try and defend a lead, if they loose the lead then they fall back on the argument that they should have attacked and tried to kill the game off.

The tactics to see a game out will split fans into 2 camps those that want to attack to secure the win and those that want to defend.

You attack and get hit by a counter attack, you defend and you cave under pressure. I tried to present a synthesis that takes the best of attack and defence, and form a strategy from them.

And your reply was an ill considerrd toss away 2 words, which were not rebutal or argument at all, and presented no opinion as to how you would attempt to solve the situation... or not!!!
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DDB220 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:05 am Presumably calls from the Leeds faithful to drop DCL are predominantly sourced from twatter ?
It has to be!

It won't be our sensible, knowledgeable fans.
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Pullhard wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:14 am Aaronson had a huge game on Friday night. Hopefully he can back it up at Brighton. Putting Aaronson and Messi into the same sentence is a bit of a stretch.

DCL made a massive contribution against W Ham. Needs to rattle the net a few times though. We don’t really have another credible option, regardless of what the supporters think.
He always does, gives his all for the team.

DCL didn't have an opportunity to score against West Ham, he was too busy occupying their £100m back-three on his own.
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Jammy 07 wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:27 am DCL is vital to us and we need to get him fit enough to see out the full 90 mins plus stoppages as we miss him when he's subbed off. Same goes for Aaronson as we are conceding late in games and Farke now needs to look at his substitutions when protecting a lead and come up with a different strategy.

With that in mind Gruev isn't the answer but maybe Struijk and possibly Byram might be.
Yes we conceded as soon as our two hardest workers on the pitch were withdrawn, strange that eh!

Agree, Pascal or Sam ahead of Gruev, anytime for me.
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