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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 12th November, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Farke to be given four games to turn things around?

Leeds United manager Daniel Farke appears, for now, to have avoided the dreaded axe, if reports from the Daily Mail (often seen as the mouth piece for 49ers Enterprises) and the Yorkshire Evening Post are to be believed. Graham Smyth has gone so far as to say he would be “stunned” if Farke was dismissed at this stage, pointing to the German’s tactical adaptability and solid point-per-game return in the top flight this season.

Patience has been a hallmark of 49ers Enterprises’ leadership style, with their reluctance to move quickly evidenced by their delayed decision-making during Russell Martin’s troubled spell at Rangers. Both Farke and the Elland Road hierarchy were under no illusions about the challenges this season would present, yet with Leeds struggling, questions are inevitably being asked about whether he is extracting full value from his squad.

According to the Daily Mail, Farke was informally handed a five-match window to turn results around, with Nottingham Forest earmarked as the most winnable fixture in that stretch, a game that ultimately slipped from his grasp. Five days have passed since that defeat, and the fact no action has been taken during the current international break, a period traditionally used by clubs to make managerial changes, suggests his position is safe for now.

However, the forthcoming run of fixtures, Aston Villa at home, Manchester City and Chelsea away, followed by Liverpool at home, presents an uphill battle. On current form, Leeds would be lucky to pick up a total of three points, and would surely see his Elland Road tenure come to an end - but many see this as postponing the inevitable!





Nmecha perfectly suited to Farke' system - Cross

New York Times journalist Beren Cross recently weighed in on Leeds United’s current position in the league and the success of their summer recruitment. Consecutive defeats have left the Whites perilously close to the relegation zone, yet Cross believes their performances merit a higher standing in the league. He was particularly positive about the club’s summer recruitment, which saw ten new players arrive for a net spend of £93 million. Among the signings, free-transfer addition Nmecha has been singled out as a success story having stayed fit and looks perfectly suited to Farke's system as a physical, hard-running, aerially strong target man. He is the ideal backup to Calvert-Lewin, even if he may not quite have the same finesse.

However, he stressed that more time is needed to fully evaluate the contributions of other recruits such as Bijol, Bornauw, and Perri. Among the standout additions so far, Gudmundsson and Longstaff have arguably been the most impactful, while Stach, Calvert-Lewin, and Okafor have produced a blend of strong and serviceable performances. Despite this, Cross rejected the notion that Leeds have exceeded expectations, noting that their current standing feels about right given an inviting run of opening fixtures.

In fact, he argued that Leeds could easily be higher up the table had they not dropped valuable points against Fulham, Bournemouth, and Tottenham Hotspur. Unfortunately for Daniel Farke, momentum has deserted them in the last couple of games, and despite Nmecha's goal at the City ground, Leeds have not looked like scoring, and at the same time, are unravelling at the back, conceding six in two games.


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Firstly, it’s only Wednesday (12th November) EB 😃.

Secondly, another 5 games is a waste. As mentioned, delaying the inevitable.
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A new manager wouldn’t thank you for that schedule of games to start his tenure.
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What would constitute turning it around from those 4 fixtures.
4 points??
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4 games,if that's true he's gone,because it's unlikely we'll get anything from the upcoming games.
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Jaydog wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:23 am What would constitute turning it around from those 4 fixtures.
4 points??
Good point, I struggle to see us getting more than a point (Villa?) in those games. It does feel like they are simply kicking the can a little further down the road. Perhaps they intend using that time to identify a replacement, but that would suggest contingency planning, something there has been little evidence of to date.
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What does it matter who the manager is? Is there someone out there (or can Daniel Farke) magic up the quality that is needed to be able to compete in the Premiership out of thin air?

Where is, whoever is at the helm, going to find a midfield that can bridge the gap between the defence and the attack as well as be able to operate and play in the opposition half and score a goal or two or three? Where is there an attacking player that knows how to reasonanbly regularly score goals in the Premiership.

Snowballs chance in hell comes to mind TBH - don't matter who is the Manager
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It would be ironic is Farke now pulls it out of the bag and wins manager on the month!
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lufc1304 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:50 am Good point, I struggle to see us getting more than a point (Villa?) in those games. It does feel like they are simply kicking the can a little further down the road. Perhaps they intend using that time to identify a replacement, but that would suggest contingency planning, something there has been little evidence of to date.
Who knows but they will be expecting a big response to the Forest defeat considering its at home.
Farke has tended to follow a poor one with a good one , admittedly in the Championship.
If its a poor performance and he gets the chop the next 3 or 4 games would be a caretaker manager. Oh goody…
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Villa is must win for Farke at least, nearly is for us after dropping 4 gettable points in the last two.
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4 games to turn things around! When the fixtures are teams that are quality in every department. What can you say to this? Are the board absolving themselves by generiously extending Farkes position by giving him a task they know dam well is near impossible?
Time to break out the 5-4-1 formation and park that bus.
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We'll get nothing playing defensively, attack is the best form of defence and f**k the "respect the opponent", go for the throat like Sunderland, make them worry about us... If we lose then it'll be as warriors not sheep
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:30 am We'll get nothing playing defensively, attack is the best form of defence and f**k the "respect the opponent", go for the throat like Sunderland, make them worry about us... If we lose then it'll be as warriors not sheep
Although Sunderland seem far better equipped with manager & personnel to achieve it.
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Perhaps there's agreement that Leeds can't sack him until a certain number of games where he is not averaging a point per game???
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:30 am We'll get nothing playing defensively, attack is the best form of defence and f**k the "respect the opponent", go for the throat like Sunderland, make them worry about us... If we lose then it'll be as warriors not sheep
Not sure we're capable. When had an awesome opportunity in Brighton in the first half with a dangerous free-kick. Instead of whipping it into the box, we passed backwards so we could keep possession!
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Ellandback1 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:48 pm Not sure we're capable. When had an awesome opportunity in Brighton in the first half with a dangerous free-kick. Instead of whipping it into the box, we passed backwards so we could keep possession!
What we call Farkeball, we've played it for 2 and a bit years. Don't risk losing possession, keep it very safe. It's probably part of the reason why our progressive players have been sold or loaned on. Struijk is progressive minded, Bijol is safety first. Longstaff is defensive, Tanaka looks for clever passes, makes interesting runs

Farke can change, we've seen it. I think if his jobs on the line we might see it again.
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PhoenixUnited wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:58 am What does it matter who the manager is? Is there someone out there (or can Daniel Farke) magic up the quality that is needed to be able to compete in the Premiership out of thin air?

Where is, whoever is at the helm, going to find a midfield that can bridge the gap between the defence and the attack as well as be able to operate and play in the opposition half and score a goal or two or three? Where is there an attacking player that knows how to reasonanbly regularly score goals in the Premiership.

Snowballs chance in hell comes to mind TBH - don't matter who is the Manager
You would expect a new manager to be able to pick players in the correct positions, ability to change formation as to home or away and against whom, drop players who are not playing well etc
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Ellandback1 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:39 pm Perhaps there's agreement that Leeds can't sack him until a certain number of games where he is not averaging a point per game???
That would rank up there with the relegation clauses we had in player contracts a few years ago.
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The Subhuman wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:59 pm What we call Farkeball, we've played it for 2 and a bit years. Don't risk losing possession, keep it very safe. It's probably part of the reason why our progressive players have been sold or loaned on. Struijk is progressive minded, Bijol is safety first. Longstaff is defensive, Tanaka looks for clever passes, makes interesting runs

Farke can change, we've seen it. I think if his jobs on the line we might see it again.
Point being, we're never look safe!
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Jaydog wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:15 pm Although Sunderland seem far better equipped with manager & personnel to achieve it.
In Xhaka, Sunderland have a proper leader organizing his teammates around him, also breaks up the opposition attacks as a defensive midfielder should do!
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