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Sunday 14th December 4:30pm | Gtech Stadium


Leeds United face a daunting trip to Brentford this weekend, returning to a ground that has historically offered little in the way of comfort or optimism for travelling Whites. Just one win in their last twelve away league games against the Bees, the miraculous 2–1 survival-sealing victory in May 2022, stands out as the lone moment of joy in a fixture that has repeatedly punished Leeds. Brentford’s home form this season only heightens the challenge. Sixteen points from seven league matches is a total bettered only by the established elite. For Leeds, who are attempting to shake off their long and miserable run of London outings, this represents another stern examination of their recent revival.

Yet the mood around Leeds has shifted dramatically over the past ten days. A spirited second half against Manchester City hinted at life, the outstanding win over Chelsea confirmed it, and the 3–3 draw with Liverpool sealed the sense that Daniel Farke’s side has rediscovered belief. Players have stepped up, with Brenden Aaronson’s bright cameo against Liverpool and Calvert-Lewin rediscovering his scoring touch, and Farke himself has earned widespread praise for his tactical flexibility across those fixtures. Brentford now present exactly the kind of obstacle that has repeatedly undone Leeds, a trip away to a club with a historical hex and a team whose home form is among the best in the league.

Brentford’s transition under Keith Andrews adds another intriguing layer. Thomas Frank departed, several senior players moved on, and Andrews was handed the reins. His start has been solid if uneven. Outstanding wins against Liverpool, Manchester United and Aston Villa punctuate a mixed league campaign, but the disparity between home and away form is stark. At the Gtech, Brentford are ferocious with five wins from seven, while their away performances mirror Leeds’ own struggles. Their physical style, direct approach and reliance on aerial dominance pose a very specific threat. Igor Thiago has been a revelation with eleven goals, Jordan Henderson brings composure and range, and full back Michael Kayode is emerging as one of the league’s most dynamic wide defenders. Leeds will need to match Brentford physically, a battle that may define the game.





For all that Brentford offer, they also remain flawed. Their underlying data suggests they should be a top-half side, yet sloppiness has repeatedly cost them, with missed chances at one end and preventable goals at the other. Three defeats in their last four, all away from home, underline the inconsistency. Farke’s own record against Brentford is strong with five wins from eight, even if his last meeting with them was followed by his dismissal at Norwich. Tactically, Brentford fluctuate between a 4-2-3-1 and a 5-3-2 depending on the opponent. They prefer a mid block rather than an aggressive press and favour direct play through their striker before breaking with pace. Leeds’ summer investment in physicality and height was designed for exactly this kind of contest.

Daniel Farke, speaking ahead of the game, was firm in his messaging. Belief has never wavered. “We were convinced before, during and after the week,” he said, while reminding everyone that Leeds enter every Premier League match as underdogs. He praised Brentford’s formidable home record, noting seven games and sixteen points, and insisted Leeds are not underestimating the challenge. On tactics, he stressed that formation is merely a base rather than a philosophy. “I am not married to a three man or four man formation. It is about how we bring our principles.” Calvert-Lewin also earned glowing praise, with Farke calling him one of the best strikers in the league. The news on Lukas Nmecha was less positive, with the striker ruled out again following a re-scan that showed his injury had not fully healed.

So Leeds travel south with confidence renewed but realism intact. Farke confirmed that most of the squad is available despite the usual knocks after a heavy week. Flexibility remains an option after shifting from 5-3-2 to 4-3-3 during the Liverpool match. Questions remain about personnel. Could Willy Gnonto return? Does Gruev keep his place over Tanaka? Is there room for Piroe or Aaronson from the start? And perhaps most tellingly, would Leeds take a point? Against a Brentford side that rarely falters at home, logic suggests yes. But after the last week of performances, Leeds will travel believing they can compete anywhere. Whether belief becomes points at a stadium that has so often haunted them will define the next chapter of their revival.



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Hope I'm wrong, but I can't see anything but defeat on Sunday.

Brentford have a really good home record - but hoping we can sneak a draw
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Farke on belief
"We were convinced before, during and after the week. "
On conversations with the owners
"No conversations."



On being an underdog
"As a promoted side in each and every game you're an underdog.
"Brentford have a fantastic home record thy have beat pretty much all of the top sides at home don't expect an easy game at all."




On the formation change
"When you look on the pitch it's a base formation."
"I'm not married to a three man or four man formation, it's just important how we bring our pricipals.
"Each base formation has its advantages and disadvantages. With a back three you can park the bus or you can play fantastic football, the same with a back four."




On Calvert-Lewin
"It's what he's done throughout his career.
"More than 250 Premier League games and more than 60 goals, this is why we were desparate to sign him.
"The key for him to to stay fit and to stay in a good rhythm and keep the confidence.
"For me, he is one of the best strikers in this league.





On Brentford challenge

"They've won their last three home games, so fantastic home record. 7 games, 16 points if I'm not wrong.

"We are far away from underestimating the challenge

"As a promoted side, we are the underdog anyway, especially against Brentford."

We know if we deliver a performance we can win points wherever we go."




Nmecha

Not confident at all, he will also miss this game. We had a re-scan he's not completely healed, so he will be out."

"The first step will be for him to be return to team training. I want him back as soon as possible, hopefully the Crystal Palace game.

"He's still in individual training, which means he's not available."




More on the formation change

"It was always the plan, once you dominate the league. I like to stick to the same formation for clarity."

"If you a promoted side, I think it's important to be a bit more unpredicatable. It was always the plan for me for us to be a bit more flexible in comparisson to last season."




Latest on injuries

"Like always, during a training week and after a busy week there's some knocks. But not bad, so everyone should be available."
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Kevin Schade is suspended. He will be a massive miss for Brentford
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I know it's obvious but we have to target a win in games like these in order to stay up. I'm actually sort of confident as long as DF stays pragmatic.

Won't be easy but we can come away with something.
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I've predicted a sneaky Leeds win, but that's all heart talking, my head says a draw if we're lucky but most likely nul points.
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I always go for a positive result! We can break the London hoodoo and win here! Would be a great win…
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Hopefully the performance against Forest is a thing of the past

We need to be on it from the start .
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In their last 4 home game Brentford have only scored once in the first half.

They have however scored five from the 80th minute onwards.

Be very aware of those stats Mr Farke.
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Out of the games ahead this one is the most promising, even though its away, our recent form should carry us to a hard fought away win.
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Musicman1965 wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:20 pm Out of the games ahead this one is the most promising, even though its away, our recent form should carry us to a hard fought away win.
They’ve won 5 from 7 at home, and we’ve lost 6 from 7 away. On that basis, I’d expect a defeat.

Hope you are correct MM, I gave a sneaky feeling you will be.
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Key permanent sales (mostly in summer 2025):
Bryan Mbeumo → Manchester United (around €75m / £65m)
Yoane Wissa → Newcastle United (around €58m / £55m)
Christian Nørgaard → Arsenal (around €12m / £10m)
Mark Flekken → Bayer Leverkusen (around €11m / £11m)
Mads Roerslev → Southampton (undisclosed fee)

That is about half their team sold... what have we got to fear?
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Barlow Boy wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:28 pm They’ve won 5 from 7 at home, and we’ve lost 6 from 7 away. On that basis, I’d expect a defeat.

Hope you are correct MM, I gave a sneaky feeling you will be.
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Sean_Nile wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:39 pm Key permanent sales (mostly in summer 2025):
Bryan Mbeumo → Manchester United (around €75m / £65m)
Yoane Wissa → Newcastle United (around €58m / £55m)
Christian Nørgaard → Arsenal (around €12m / £10m)
Mark Flekken → Bayer Leverkusen (around €11m / £11m)
Mads Roerslev → Southampton (undisclosed fee)

That is about half their team sold... what have we got to fear?
They probably upgraded Flekken, Roerslev was loaned out last season so don't see him being integral to the first team. Mbeumo and Wissa are the biggish losses but all that did was promote quality from the depth chart
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Sean_Nile wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:39 pm Key permanent sales (mostly in summer 2025):
Bryan Mbeumo → Manchester United (around €75m / £65m)
Yoane Wissa → Newcastle United (around €58m / £55m)
Christian Nørgaard → Arsenal (around €12m / £10m)
Mark Flekken → Bayer Leverkusen (around €11m / £11m)
Mads Roerslev → Southampton (undisclosed fee)

That is about half their team sold... what have we got to fear?
Form of Igor Thiago has been essential in making up for the loss of Wissa and Mbeumo. He was out injured most of last season.

11 PL goals so far this season. That pays for a few sins.
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I’d grab a point now if offered, hopefully the team shove the words down my throat.
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Pullhard wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 8:03 am Form of Igor Thiago has been essential in making up for the loss of Wissa and Mbeumo. He was out injured most of last season.

11 PL goals so far this season. That pays for a few sins.
After Haaland, he is currently the most prolific striker in the Premier League.

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Breaking News: Once in a Lifetime Pundit Promotion Turns Into Premier League Farce!

And you may ask yourself, am I right? Am I wrong?
And you may say to yourself, my God, what has Brentford done here? This is not my beautiful Brentford.
You may find yourself promoting a former TV pundit to Premier League manager.
And you may find yourself with Keith Andrews in the Brentford dugout.
And you may ask yourself: Well... is this bloke seriously up to the job?
And you may tell yourself: This is way above his pay grade!

Same as it ever was? Not quite. Keith Andrews, the smooth-talking Sky Sports regular who once dished out "expert" analysis from the comfort of the studio saying the team that scores the most goals will win the game.. can't decide if he is a dimwit or a dumb wit... has been catapulted into managing Brentford after Thomas Frank jumped ship to Tottenham. No head coaching experience? Turned down for League Two jobs?

No bother! The Bees thought, "Let's hand the reins to the set-piece guy who couldn't stop criticising proper managers back in the day."

Letting the days go by, Brentford flogged off their best players in the summer, captain, top scorer, keeper, the lot. Water flowing underground straight towards the drop zone. Mid-table at best so far, with set-pieces (Andrews' big "expertise") flopping harder than ever. Chasing games, conceding cheap goals, looking utterly out of his depth. Fans asking: My God, what have we done here?

And don't just take our word for it, the old guard are piling on with the kind of scathing takedowns that make you wince.
Roy Keane, never one to mince words (especially about Andrews, whom he famously branded one of the biggest "bullshitters" in football back in 2020), smirked on Sky: "He does talk a good game, All mouth, no trousers. Keane's advice for the rookie gaffer? "Try and win some games." Ouch. As if Andrews needed reminding that management isn't just spouting clichés from a pundit's chair.

Then there's Martin O'Neill, Keane's old Ireland boss, who hasn't forgotten Andrews' "vitriolic" punditry attacks on their tenure. On Talksport, O'Neill dripped venom: "The irony is he becomes the set-piece coach... He was really dead against me using set-pieces to win games." Later, he doubled down: "If he had a tenth of the ability that his confidence suggested, he’d be alongside Guardiola."

You may ask yourself: How does a sofa critic handle the heat?
You may ask yourself: Where's that big-time experience come from? You may tell yourself: This pundit's completely out of his depth!

Once in a lifetime opportunity for Andrews? More like once in a lifetime mistake for Brentford. Letting the days go by... into relegation zone.
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The issue is simple. Lose and we are cast adrift in the relegation dogfight, two wins away from climbing a single place in the table. That is not a good place to be coming up to half way in the season.
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I think we can come away with something from this game, but less likely if we concede the first goal.

Winning a lot of second balls will be crucial at both ends of the pitch.

Thiago concerns me, strong runner in possession.

Perri- gives me Onana eccentricity vibes on occasion. There will be a lot of high balls into our box without a doubt, he needs to have a good game.
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