Leeds United Recruitment

[ElKapitan]

I was wondering what others are thinking? The transfer window is not done..... But some were saying this in the summer and we didn't really add what we should have imo.

DCL aside of which I am only surprised by his fitness not ability, Okafor, Perri are as expected for differing reasons..... Nmecha okish on a free but crocked alot, Bornauw good but crocked a lot.... Justin the same....

Most of the above seemed like panic buys for me with little strategy.....

Bijol, Gudmundsson, Stach really good signings and I genuinely think longstaff once back into it will do well..... Trouble is we were a light squad coming up and I don't really think we've addressed it in the best way to stay up.....

My question is simple. Why?

We are in a really good position comparitively speaking.... But business has not been done to address glaring areas of squad weakness.

The ffp idea is mute when we have just tabled up to £40 mil for a player..... Joel piroe could have got decent money, Gnonto also (neither are used so I see them as devaluing assets in the same way as I did Meslier).

Is it that we can't attract players..... Can't find players...... Farke doesn't want players (Comments today about gk situation suggest he wasn't the one behind the Perri transfer).......

Dare I say it I felt equal parts excited/scared of what Orta might do..... I felt like Steinnsson had reach and experience.... The last two windows have given me a feeling of none expectation.....

Are we missing a recruitment department that befits the premier league?

[pjm2019]

we have boys running our recruitment team. Fire the lot

[Irish Ian]

we have boys running our recruitment team. Fire the lot

Then what?

[Orange Box]

DCL - I’ve always liked him, and for nowt I was glad we took the risk/chance.
Okafor - I saw him in Dublin against us and couldn’t recall a single thing he did, so initially I was a little bit meh. Now I’m head in hands every time he losses the ball, which means my hands and head are frequently in togetherness.
Longstaff - I was happy to get a PL grafter, and I’m still ok with that.
I’d never heard of any of the others so didn’t have much of an opinion at first. Now I’m more than happy with Stach and Gudmunsson, and I really like Bornauw, I just hope DF doesn’t have a problem with him.
Bijol, he’s a mighty force in attack and defence, we’ve struggled of late without him.
But the one I was really looking forward to seeing was Perri. That long throw of his is a real breakaway weapon. And a presence in the box. I get that he can’t save a ball for toffee, but he is, for me at least, our best option between the jumpers.

I’d give our recruitment team a 7 for the summer business. 5 for January, simply on the basis that we kept Joel and we might even need Mes at some stage this year.

EDIT: I forgot Justin, which is understandable since he looks as though he’s always been here, and I reckon he’s even better than his twin brother Bogle.

[WhiteRose]

DCL - I’ve always liked him, and for nowt I was glad we took the risk/chance.
Okafor - I saw him in Dublin against us and couldn’t recall a single thing he did, so initially I was a little bit meh. Now I’m head in hands every time he losses the ball, which means my hands and head are frequently in togetherness.
Longstaff - I was happy to get a PL grafter, and I’m still ok with that.
I’d never heard of any of the others so didn’t have much of an opinion at first. Now I’m more than happy with Stach and Gudmunsson, and I really like Bornauw, I just hope DF doesn’t have a problem with him.
Bijol, he’s a mighty force in attack and defence, we’ve struggled of late without him.
But the one I was really looking forward to seeing was Perri. That long throw of his is a real breakaway weapon. And a presence in the box. I get that he can’t save a ball for toffee, but he is, for me at least, our best option between the jumpers.

I’d give our recruitment team a 7 for the summer business. 5 for January, simply on the basis that we kept Joel and we might even need Mes at some stage this year.

EDIT: I forgot Justin, which is understandable since he looks as though he’s always been here, and I reckon he’s even better than his twin brother Bogle.

Funny how if we’d gone in to the season without okofor or longstaff we would all be moaning about lacking players but we would be exactly where we are now without either of them, in okofors case perhaps better given Gnonto would have got more minutes - 30 million that wasn’t well spent at all. Longstaff can’t even displace Gruev who was a backup option in the championship.

[pjm2019]

Then what?

WTF - HIRE TRIED AND TESTED PEOPLE, THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM OUT THERE

[Carrick Dave]

At the start of the season Leeds were viewed as relegation-fodder, so attracting talented players was always going to be difficult.

Given that we needed bodies in numerous positions and the £61m PSR restriction, the recruitment team was shopping at Aldi and did ok.

The jury’s out on a few but given we’re six points clear of the dropzone the approach has largely worked so far.

In this window we don’t have £40m available, that was to be spread across a 5 year term. We have £8m to spend, roughly what we offered for Harry Wilson in the summer.

That’s the reality for me.

[Irish Ian]

WTF - HIRE TRIED AND TESTED PEOPLE, THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM OUT THERE

You sound like a guy who wants to sack the manager of Tesco because you cant find the marked down shelf.

Hilarious

[weasel]

At the start of the season Leeds were viewed as relegation-fodder, so attracting talented players was always going to be difficult.

Given that we needed bodies in numerous positions and the £61m PSR restriction, the recruitment team was shopping at Aldi and did ok.

The jury’s out on a few but given we’re six points clear of the dropzone the approach has largely worked so far.

In this window we don’t have £40m available, that was to be spread across a 5 year term. We have £8m to spend, roughly what we offered for Harry Wilson in the summer.

That’s the reality for me.

And no guarantee we even have that without selling someone. It may be that whatever options are now available aren't worth it if it means having to balance the books by offloading Gnonto, Piroe or Tanaka in this window. Maybe we viewed Larsen as worth it assuming we possibly had a deal agreed to sell someone if we got him. Just getting someone in for the sake of it but losing one (or more) of those 3 is that a good idea?

[weasel]

It is interesting that people clamour for us to do business early but then moan as we don't need to be scrambling around at the end of the window. Summer we signed plenty of players but cos we missed out on Wilson on the last day some fans view it as an abject failure. Wilson would have been a bonus who we likely only went after at the end as for the first time in the summer it looked like he was available. He may have been 10th on our list of players for the position but after having tried for the other 9 we thought why not when it looked like he was available.

Same with this window and the position we were short in was the 10. We got a player in early. As such no panic stations but if something materialises that makes sense we are in a position to act. Larsen presumably made sense but at £33m not £48m.

[Orange Box]

It is interesting that people clamour for us to do business early but then moan as we don't need to be scrambling around at the end of the window. Summer we signed plenty of players but cos we missed out on Wilson on the last day some fans view it as an abject failure. Wilson would have been a bonus who we likely only went after at the end as for the first time in the summer it looked like he was available. He may have been 10th on our list of players for the position but after having tried for the other 9 we thought why not when it looked like he was available.

Same with this window and the position we were short in was the 10. We got a player in early. As such no panic stations but if something materialises that makes sense we are in a position to act. Larsen presumably made sense but at £33m not £48m.

I think you hit the nail on the head with the “players who become available” comment. It’s almost like going to a car boot sale with a list of items you need, sometimes you find one of the items - it’s not exactly what you want, but it’s similar and will do for now. When you’re on a tight budget that’s okay. The flip side of that is when you go into debt to buy the best item brand new - that’s not good news.
This year I’m a car boot kind of guy, next year though I’m going to want an upgrade.

[The Subhuman]

At the start of the season Leeds were viewed as relegation-fodder, so attracting talented players was always going to be difficult.

Given that we needed bodies in numerous positions and the £61m PSR restriction, the recruitment team was shopping at Aldi and did ok.

The jury’s out on a few but given we’re six points clear of the dropzone the approach has largely worked so far.

In this window we don’t have £40m available, that was to be spread across a 5 year term. We have £8m to spend, roughly what we offered for Harry Wilson in the summer.

That’s the reality for me.

Aren't all transfers spread across 3, 4, 5 years? In terms of PSR anyway. If we had 40 to play with we still have 40 to play with..at least

[Barlow Boy]

Aren't all transfers spread across 3, 4, 5 years? In terms of PSR anyway. If we had 40 to play with we still have 40 to play with..at least

What happens when SCR replaces PSR at the start of next season?

Does all the previous spending under PSR just get ignored?

[Carrick Dave]

Aren't all transfers spread across 3, 4, 5 years? In terms of PSR anyway. If we had 40 to play with we still have 40 to play with..at least

They can be amortised over 3,4,5 years, but if a club wants £20m for a striker now and we have £8m, we aren't getting him.

With cash coming in from Mateta, Palace were always favourites to get JSL - hence why the deal was labelled difficult to do from the outset.

If they could offer £35m up front and Leeds needed the payment spread over 5 years, they were always in the driving seat.

[Carrick Dave]

What happens when SCR replaces PSR at the start of next season?

Does all the previous spending under PSR just get ignored?

I don't think anyone's too sure what's going to happen Kev, I've seen the question asked but there sems to be no definitive answer as yet.

Maybe I've just missed it though.

[Irish Ian]

This is a decent listen.

It might mitigate the tedium of today.



Interviews with transfer agents about the different mechanisms that make up a deal.

[pjm2019]

You sound like a guy who wants to sack the manager of Tesco because you cant find the marked down shelf.

Hilarious

you know me so well

[pjm2019]

everyone else are getting players in BUT the LUFC chairman knows we do not need anyone new

[The Subhuman]

What happens when SCR replaces PSR at the start of next season?

Does all the previous spending under PSR just get ignored?

No clue ... It should mean the end of any PSR liability and all balances reset

[Barlow Boy]

I don't think anyone's too sure what's going to happen Kev, I've seen the question asked but there sems to be no definitive answer as yet.

Maybe I've just missed it though.

No doubt it will become clearer (as much as that sort of stuff does to me anyway) nearer the time Dave.