The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 29th September) - Gruev's back in action and Women's cup charge

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Breakfast Debate The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 29th September) - Gruev's back in action and Women's cup charge

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Good Morning. It's Tuesday 29th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road…

Gruev back in action for Bulgaria

Ilia Gruev has returned from his knee injury and started for Bulgaria in their Nations League defeat to Luxembourg on Saturday with their enxt game against Estonia tonight, which is welcome news after a frustrating spell out. It also raises the question of where does he fit at Leeds this season? Daniel Farke has always spoken well of him, and it is clear the manager rates him as more than just a squad filler. TeamTalk reports that the club have put any decision on his future on hold while Gruev sets out to return to action for Leeds United.

What Gruev offers is different from what we have ahead of him. He is a natural holding midfielder who sits, reads the game, wins the ball and keeps things simple. Tanaka's strengths are energy, running off the ball and arriving late in the box. That gives Farke a more conservative option when we need to protect a lead or steady a game, and a different profile against sides who like to press us through the middle.

The trouble is that Tanaka has been growing into the Premier League, and every game he plays well makes him harder to shift. With Ampadu and Stach some of the first names on the team sheet, minutes are not easy to come by. So when does Gruev get his chance? His contract situation means he’ll want a fairly swift answer. His deal runs out on 30 June 2027, which means that from January he is free to agree a pre-contract with other clubs. We either decide he is part of our plans and offer a longer deal, or we risk losing him for nothing.

So do we tie him down now, or is January the time to cash in while we still can?




Five games in, how is the squad shaping up?

Five games into the season, the shape of the squad is starting to show. The 4-1 win over Newcastle took us to third and showed what we can do when everything clicks into place. The Crystal Palace draw was a reminder of how quickly that edge can go, and how much we rely on the right players being fit and available.

Injuries change things fast. The lengthy absence for Joe Rodon has already shown it. When a centre-back is out for a long spell, the whole back line has to be reshuffled, cover gets stretched, and one more knock leaves us in real trouble. The same applies anywhere on the pitch, and the reports of hamstring concerns for Ballard and Brobbey from the international break are another warning of how quickly a comfortable squad can start to look short.

That is why January should not be a wish list. It is easy to say we want a striker, a winger and a centre-half, but harder to say which gap would actually cost us points. The better question is where we would struggle most if two or three players were out at the same time. If we could only sign one player in January, which position would it be, and why?




Derby day delight for the Women

Leeds United Women's blistering start to 2026/27 has carried into the FA WNL Cup. They cruised past West Yorkshire rivals Bradford City Women 4-1, making it three wins from three and topping Group T. That sends them into the knockout rounds and with five wins in five in the league as well, it means a perfect start to the season.

A cup run gives the team something a league campaign can struggle to provide. It means a run of bigger occasions, a reason for local and national coverage, and the chance for people who have never been to a Women's game to see what they have been missing. A derby win over a neighbour is also exactly the kind of story that gets talked about beyond our own supporters.

For a side still building its following, that momentum could matter a great deal. But attention only helps if it turns into people turning up. So what would get more of us to a Women's game this season? Is it ticket prices, kick-off times, where the games are played, or simply knowing when they are on?




Ilia Gruev, Bulgaria, Leeds United Women, Transfer Window, FA WNL Cup
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 29th September) - Gruev's back in action and Women's cup charge

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Five games in, and I believe we accumulated 5 points last season against the teams we have played thus far, so our current 9 suggests we are much better off, though the Palace bore might be a warning about getting too complacent.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 29th September) - Gruev's back in action and Women's cup charge

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Love Gruev, a quality holding mid who plays the pivot extremely well and there might be times this season where we turn to that formation, to hold a lead or even allow and extra attacker for defender scenario when chasing games. At that point Tanaka off, Elvedi off, Forward and Gruev on.

Squad thoughts:

I'm not with the rest of the forum regarding the squad shape/depth. There's nothing after DCL really, at all. We look a lot shallower up front than last season. I'm one that feels that Piroe would have been a good break glass in emergency forward should DCL be absent for multiple games, Gnonto's skill set we didn't replace either. He turned a fair few games for us from the bench and he's better than Wilson for me anyway.

We look set defensively, not seeing anything from Elvedi yet Iv'e enjoyed. He may come good but two average games and a poor one so far. Bijol looked out of shape and disinclined on his international duty... We need Rodon back for when teams start working us out. Tarik looks and is top class but so was Struijk last season, he's an upgrade but it's only a very small one

Trafford is the difference maker, Darlow in goal and we're probably bottom 5 or 6 with 4-5 points. That worries me

Midfield is the same as last season, we didn't upgrade midfield or forward line at all, in fact we got weaker up front. The proviso here being Bahoya but again while Okafor keeps his place and assuming Wilson is the replacement/rotation player then we may not see much of Bahoya and at that point the 25M for 10 appearances of any sort might make us shut him down so as we don't trigger it

A lot will depend on what Farke is seeing in training, we've basically loaned him to have him train with us, I think we'll see what the plan is from the sub appearences. We have 8 free looks left, shame we're out of the cup.

Overall our GK has gone from a 5 to a 9
Our defence has gone from a 7.5 to an 8, (a 7 atm with Rodon out and Bijol benched)
Midfield is the same, 7.5 last season, 7.5 this
Forward line was a 6.5 last season, probably a 6, maybe lower, this.
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We just about at our level now which is mid table PL.

Too good for the Championship and unlikely to challenge for the PL title anytime soon. This means we'll have the odd excellent day like against Newcastle but more often than not it will be close games like against Forest, Brentford, Brighton & Palace with perhaps the odd bad defeat thrown in when we don't play at our best against the likes of Arsenal etc.

Should be happy days after everything we've been through but somehow I know fans will quickly become frustrated and be demanding more.
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So Trafford is good at his job, why is that a perceived and often veiled negative when I read posts. I.e without him we would have less points.

That is the point of paying 40 million ……….. isn’t it ?

Gruev - he is free to agree a pre contract in January with a continental team and will likely want to choose his next club.

We also may need him this season. However, I will be surprised if he is offered a new contract, the pursuit of Charles suggests the writing is on the wall.

He will know where he is in the pecking order. He will want to play football so I expect him to leave at the end of the season on a free.
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I said previously I doubt we will finish any higher than 12th and I still think that.
So far we've had two good performances (Brighton and Newcastle) and three poor ones but like last season we are difficult to beat even when not playing well so I think somewhere around 10th to 14th seems about right.
We made a mistake not signing another striker because if DCL gets an injury we are stuffed.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 29th September) - Gruev's back in action and Women's cup charge

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Morning
Let gruev go or choose for himself, otherwise its just another player we keep like james on long contracts, both are good for the championship but not for a club looking to strenghthen and hold its own in the PL.
Shame we didn't get the charles deal over the line as he's a very good player.
I'm hoping we reveal a CF in January as well as a 10 but we all know thats pure folly on my part, we'll no doubt see another season out with the bare bones of a squad running on empty, but survival is what its all about.
It looks like the site has been hacked as theres some kind of story with women in football kits, I stopped reading and changed my details.
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Bon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 9:26 am It looks like the site has been hacked as theres some kind of story with women in football kits, I stopped reading and changed my details.

It's a three week international break, there isn't a lot else going on...
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YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 9:46 am It's a three week international break, there isn't a lot else going on...
No offence meant YS, just a bit of fun on my part, I think you do a great job with the breakfast debate and appreciate it's hard enough when there isn't an Int' break never mind when there is, I'll bet it's equally as difficult in the pre-season as well ?
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Bon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:09 am I'll bet it's equally as difficult in the pre-season as well ?

We just roll out the random transfer news generator for that! ;-)
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 8:18 am We look a lot shallower up front than last season. I'm one that feels that Piroe would have been a good break glass in emergency forward should DCL be absent for multiple games, Gnonto's skill set we didn't replace either. He turned a fair few games for us from the bench and he's better than Wilson for me anyway.

We've got rid of Gnonto, who always looked like he might do something, and replaced him with an out of form James and Wilson who Farke has turned to less as the season has gone on. Definitely lighter in that area as it stands.
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So we're 5 games in to the season , 5th in the League and unbeaten and apparently nothing is right with the world because Wee Willie Gnonto is gone off to enjoy La Dolce Vita . We waited all last season for the 'might do something' which never appeared but we will dismiss Wilson because it's been a bit of a slow start . Now it's Bahoya who is the shiny new toy that Farke is failing to use quickly enough and apparently despite the points and the stats our resident experts know better. I am so glad I was away for the last week and missed all the post Crystal Palace stuff and nonsense.
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ruttermania wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:55 am So we're 5 games in to the season , 5th in the League and unbeaten and apparently nothing is right with the world because Wee Willie Gnonto is gone off to enjoy La Dolce Vita . We waited all last season for the 'might do something' which never appeared but we will dismiss Wilson because it's been a bit of a slow start . Now it's Bahoya who is the shiny new toy that Farke is failing to use quickly enough and apparently despite the points and the stats our resident experts know better. I am so glad I was away for the last week and missed all the post Crystal Palace stuff and nonsense.

I don't think anyone is saying nothing is right with the world.

The question was, if you could strengthen one area in January, which would it be?
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YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 11:01 am I don't think anyone is saying nothing is right with the world.

The question was, if you could strengthen one area in January, which would it be?
I would be waiting to see where our greatest area of need is closer to the time. Am sure the transfer dept have got targets lined up in various positions in case we need them.
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My biggest worry is expecting something from James and Aaronson when bringing them on. Never happening.
Need Stach to start firing.
Need Wilson to show something.
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We struggle when sides move the ball quickly in the middle of the park and it seems they have an extra msn
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Chilli D wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 9:15 am I said previously I doubt we will finish any higher than 12th and I still think that.
So far we've had two good performances (Brighton and Newcastle) and three poor ones but like last season we are difficult to beat even when not playing well so I think somewhere around 10th to 14th seems about right.
We made a mistake not signing another striker because if DCL gets an injury we are stuffed.
And a playmaker. Wilson has been a poor signing so far, given the hype and wages, even if only 5 games in.
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Wilson is a streak player, even his best season (last season,) he had an invisible last third of the season and that seems to have carried on this. I do expect him to heat up at some point, his problem now is he's not getting the starts Fulham gave him to play himself out of slump
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 8:26 pm Wilson is a streak player, even his best season (last season,) he had an invisible last third of the season and that seems to have carried on this. I do expect him to heat up at some point, his problem now is he's not getting the starts Fulham gave him to play himself out of slump
As long as we're getting a fair few decent results then ultimately that's all that matters because at the end of the day it's a team game and so shouldn't really matter who's getting all the goals and assists.
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YorkshireSquare wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 11:01 am I don't think anyone is saying nothing is right with the world.

The question was, if you could strengthen one area in January, which would it be?
I failed to address that question and, risking a disdainful retort from Ruttermania, I'd say we need a central forward, preferably a target man because that's how we're set up. The next question is will it be a DCL replacement, a journeyman on a short contract or a young up and coming player we can sit and bring through next season but who could start if DCL went down
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