Qatar World Cup 2022. Argentina v France

[andrewjohnsmith]

Brilliant final

Argentina deserved it

MESSIIIIIIIIII

GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

Great game. France didn't look like they stood a chance for 75 minutes. If Otamendi had cleared that ball first time, they might never have got into the game. That was a lot of fun at least.

[andrewjohnsmith]

Interesting that all the awards went to players from the winning team.

I thought Gvardiol was the young player of the torunament.

Emi Martinez should have won the golden ball. Messi did have a great tournament - he was involved in most of Argentina's goals. But Martinez won it for them with two great shoot out performances.

[Irish Ian]

A very enjoyable final in what has been a decent comp.

The schedule kept it moving, many of the good players shone, and the best team won despite losing their first game

And of course I am happy for Marcelo

Bueno

[Irish Ian]

Interesting that all the awards went to players from the winning team.

I thought Gvardiol was the young player of the torunament.

Emi Martinez should have won the golden ball. Messi did have a great tournament - he was involved in most of Argentina's goals. But Martinez won it for them with two great shoot out performances.

Mbappe won the boot

[andrewjohnsmith]

Mbappe won the boot

I was talking about the one's that were picked. Mbappe wasn't selected by a committee.

[Finnatic]

Considering Qatar’s anti gay laws, they then dress Messi up in a see-through neglegee

[Irish Ian]

I was talking about the one's that were picked. Mbappe wasn't selected by a committee.

Ah.. fair play

[mentalcase]

Then you get a prick like linekar saying bellingham should have won young player

[Cjay]

Great game. France didn't look like they stood a chance for 75 minutes. If Otamendi had cleared that ball first time, they might never have got into the game. That was a lot of fun at least.

Best World Cup final I've seen.

Great watch.

Back and forth.

France as you say were non existant for much of the match but kept coming back.

Shame it had to end on pens though.

[SG90]

Do those near 700 non pen goals and 300 assists not count?

Carried by penalties in the knockout stages though, unlike a certain Brazilian

[Cjay]

Carried by penalties in the knockout stages though, unlike a certain Brazilian

Don't be a silly Billy

Penalties still have to be scored.

And I think im right in saying that Messi played a part in every single Argentina goal.

[Kennyb41]

Best World Cup final I've seen.

Great watch.

Back and forth.

France as you say were non existant for much of the match but kept coming back.

Shame it had to end on pens though.

Argentina made the near fatal mistake of deploying GS tactics and took their foot off the gas willing to encourage France to come forward, that is so dickish when you're battering them up to that minute and France HAVE TO throw caution to the wind, it so nearly cost Messi a WC winners medal and if i'd have been Messi and they lost i'd be up for murder on the manager.

Their 4 best players are up front ffs, why the hell do you let them play, continue stuffing them and going for their weak underbelly.

YOU LISTENING SOUTHGATE YOU PRICK !!

[Rook]

It was a hell of a world cup final.

A great end to a great world cup. I thoroughly enjoyed this tournament.

[Mountain]

I watched 2 games, Argentina Netherlands which I thought was poor, and England France, which was much better. Didn't see the final, the whole corruption, workers dying, anti LGBT laws, womens rights meant that while I wasn't boycotting it, I just wasn't that invested in it.

[lufc1304]

Best final I've seen (first was Argentina '78), it had everything. Shame it had to be decided by penalties, but it kept the tension high right to the end. Delighted for Messi, if ever a player deserved to be a WC winner. Marcelo will be a happy man, too. A sickener for Mbappe, has a player ever scored 4 goals in a game and still been on the losing side? He has time on his side, though, and the player most likely to pick up the baton from Messi.

Now back to the cold, hard reality of getting humped by City on Boxing Day!!

[Jaydog]

Didn't like the Argie keepers antics at all in the shootout. If every one did that it would be chaos.
It’s the only thing that the ref didn’t handle well. He was very good other than that.

[1964white]

Now back to the cold, hard reality of getting humped by City on Boxing Day!!

Oh, that little matter.

How do I prepare myself for that game? Just hoping it won't be as embarrassing as our fans think it might be.

[1964white]

Didn't like the Argie keepers antics at all in the shootout. If every one did that it would be chaos.
It’s the only thing that the ref didn’t handle well. He was very good other than that.

Learned his antics at Villa Park.

[Sockerist]

The born in England is the key part, nothing else matters. I assume he got educated here, mates are British... We're maybe the most ethnically diverse country on earth, London is certainly the most ethnically diverse city on the planet and I love it. The more the merrier..... If Saka feels British and wants to play for England more power to him.

My dad was born in /india as were his parents and their parents going back to the mid to late 1800's. I'm first generation English also, going back 150 yrs we're Scottish.

No clue what you mean by situation. What situation?

I respect your view and we may have to agree to disagree. If I am reading your post right, you appear to be saying that your more recent ancestors were colonial Scots in India. If so, in my view someone like you would qualify as an England player on the basis merely of birth and/or upbringing, as you are of a closely-similar ethnicity. I cannot agree with you about players who do not meet that criteria. That is not out of disrespect for those players. As I am at pains to emphasise, it is not a reflection on their abilities one way or the other. Personally I would rather have a mediocre team that is English than a World Cup-winning team made up of players who aren't English. I think the latter view is cynical and raises fundamental questions about the legitimacy and fairness of it.

Racist prick.

Saka was born in Ealing and has lived his entire life in England. He's as much an Englishman as you or anyone else.

He is not English. Living in England does not make you English.

If I was born in Russia and lived my entire life there, but without Russian ancestry, would I be Russkii? I would not.

If a football team was composed of such people and called itself the national football team of Russia, would that team actually be the national team of Russia? It would not. Perhaps it would be in a legal sense, but not in a true sense. Not in reality.

These are facts. Ignoring facts creates an illusory reality in which 2 + 2 is said to make 5.

2 and 2 can never make 5. You can pass laws to say that 2 and 2 is 5, and you can bully, cajole and threaten people and use emotional and sentimental arguments, but 2 and 2 still won't make 5. Legislative fiat doesn't get round it. It never will. The facts will remain the same 100 years from now.

Calling me names doesn't improve your argument. My argument is anyway not racist in the strict sense.

Thanks.

Petition not to ban Sockerist. I for one find his efforts to grab attention and be edgy on an anonymous forum hilarious.

Thanks, but I actually do sincerely believe in the thrust of what I said. It's not a question of being 'edgy'. In fact, I tried to be careful in how I worded it, as I don't wish to offend anybody. It's just that nobody seems to comment on something that seems so obvious: how can we continue to have national teams if those teams are composed of players who are not of the relevant ethnicities?

I think this is a legitimate question. You seem contemptuous of my views, hence your evasive and immature response. You are entitled to disagree with me, but your disagreement leaves open an unresolved paradox and demands that I ignore what is staring us all in the face. International football used to be the pinnacle of football. It's now just cynical rubbish.

[White Riot]

Then you get a prick like linekar saying bellingham should have won young player

You couldn't make it up mate

Bell-endingham came up short like the rest of them.

Like our Bielsa boilers, he's probably stil sobbing over his framed picture of Gareth Southgate