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Re: Pele- Moved to end of life care according to reports

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When I met Pele in the middle east, he was ironically promoting awareness for testicular cancer , what a lovely bloke as well.
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Jaydog wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:21 pm He has died in the last hour. Unconfirmed reports say
Still Alive I think

No major news sources reporting otherwise
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Pele has put an update on Instagram
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I didnt realise but for all the hype about Pele being the greatest and 3 World Cups etc.

For a start hundreds of his goals aren't officially recognised because he included friendlies and Charity games

He and Santos claim 1200 and something.

But only 700+ are officially recognised (still a great total).

And for all his World Cup plaudits the man called the Greatest by many wasn't even the best striker at any World Cup.

1958 Pele got 6, Just Fontaine got 13.

1962 Pele got 1, top scorers had 4.

1966 Pele got 1, Eusebio got 9.

And in 1970 Pele got 4 and Muller got 10.

He wasn't even Brazil's top goal scorer in 70, Jairzinho was with 7.

Feels odd that for all his plaudits he wasn't the best player in his position at any World Cup and even his scoring record isn't that unique.

Gerd Muller had similar at a similar time.

Ferenc Puskas, Josef Biscan before him, Eusebio.

Romario even in more recent times.

Would be interested to know why people like Puskas and Biscan and Eusebio aren't talked about like Pele despite having very similar records at the same time?

Puskas and Biscan actually had official better strike rates.

Is it purely the World Cup? Isn't that Pele benefitting from the quality around him given his World Cup stats are bettered by many including Muller and Eusebio?
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Pele is the Ali of boxing, both universally considered 'the best' or 'the kings'
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Pele daughter posted a photo of herself with her ailing father.
And here is a very rare video of Diego Maradona and Pele together doing a few headers.
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Pele has died aged 82.

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RIP.
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RIP to the GOAT
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Cjay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:54 pm

Feels odd that for all his plaudits he wasn't the best player in his position at any World Cup and even his scoring record isn't that unique.

Gerd Muller had similar at a similar time.



Would be interested to know why people like Puskas and Biscan and Eusebio aren't talked about like Pele despite having very similar records at the same time?

Puskas and Biscan actually had official better strike rates.

Is it purely the World Cup? Isn't that Pele benefitting from the quality around him given his World Cup stats are bettered by many including Muller and Eusebio?
This is the danger of judging based solely on statistics. To see Pele play was to see true genius. What the statistics don't show are the fearful beatings he would take every time he stepped on the pitch. They don't show three men would collapse on him every time he got the ball. He was the best player I have ever seen.
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John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:13 pm This is the danger of judging based solely on statistics. To see Pele play was to see true genius. What the statistics don't show are the fearful beatings he would take every time he stepped on the pitch. They don't show three men would collapse on him every time he got the ball. He was the best player I have ever seen.
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RIP Pele.

Another football giant passes on.
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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:22 pm Very true, gone not forgotten.......
Sometimes people who follow sport forget about the person & concentrate too much on the stats.
Modern sports people are very rarely the equal of their predecessors in more ways than just numbers
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RIP Pele
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Really sad news.

Pele somehow managed to get through life without alienating anyone.

The first true World Football Legend

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John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:13 pm This is the danger of judging based solely on statistics. To see Pele play was to see true genius. What the statistics don't show are the fearful beatings he would take every time he stepped on the pitch. They don't show three men would collapse on him every time he got the ball. He was the best player I have ever seen.
Fair enoug, not gonna debate his achievements day he passed.

Just curious, was clearly a great man and player.

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Statement from his family
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RIP the greatest footballer ever!
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Jaydog wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:32 pm Sometimes people who follow sport forget about the person & concentrate too much on the stats.
Modern sports people are very rarely the equal of their predecessors in more ways than just numbers
Who needs numbers when we have witnessed the greatest?
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