Pele- Rest In Peace
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Re: Pele- Moved to end of life care according to reports
When I met Pele in the middle east, he was ironically promoting awareness for testicular cancer , what a lovely bloke as well.
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Re: Pele- Moved to end of life care according to reports
Still Alive I think
No major news sources reporting otherwise
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Re: Pele- Moved to end of life care according to reports
Pele has put an update on Instagram
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Re: Pele- Updates fans on his health
I didnt realise but for all the hype about Pele being the greatest and 3 World Cups etc.
For a start hundreds of his goals aren't officially recognised because he included friendlies and Charity games
He and Santos claim 1200 and something.
But only 700+ are officially recognised (still a great total).
And for all his World Cup plaudits the man called the Greatest by many wasn't even the best striker at any World Cup.
1958 Pele got 6, Just Fontaine got 13.
1962 Pele got 1, top scorers had 4.
1966 Pele got 1, Eusebio got 9.
And in 1970 Pele got 4 and Muller got 10.
He wasn't even Brazil's top goal scorer in 70, Jairzinho was with 7.
Feels odd that for all his plaudits he wasn't the best player in his position at any World Cup and even his scoring record isn't that unique.
Gerd Muller had similar at a similar time.
Ferenc Puskas, Josef Biscan before him, Eusebio.
Romario even in more recent times.
Would be interested to know why people like Puskas and Biscan and Eusebio aren't talked about like Pele despite having very similar records at the same time?
Puskas and Biscan actually had official better strike rates.
Is it purely the World Cup? Isn't that Pele benefitting from the quality around him given his World Cup stats are bettered by many including Muller and Eusebio?
For a start hundreds of his goals aren't officially recognised because he included friendlies and Charity games
He and Santos claim 1200 and something.
But only 700+ are officially recognised (still a great total).
And for all his World Cup plaudits the man called the Greatest by many wasn't even the best striker at any World Cup.
1958 Pele got 6, Just Fontaine got 13.
1962 Pele got 1, top scorers had 4.
1966 Pele got 1, Eusebio got 9.
And in 1970 Pele got 4 and Muller got 10.
He wasn't even Brazil's top goal scorer in 70, Jairzinho was with 7.
Feels odd that for all his plaudits he wasn't the best player in his position at any World Cup and even his scoring record isn't that unique.
Gerd Muller had similar at a similar time.
Ferenc Puskas, Josef Biscan before him, Eusebio.
Romario even in more recent times.
Would be interested to know why people like Puskas and Biscan and Eusebio aren't talked about like Pele despite having very similar records at the same time?
Puskas and Biscan actually had official better strike rates.
Is it purely the World Cup? Isn't that Pele benefitting from the quality around him given his World Cup stats are bettered by many including Muller and Eusebio?
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Re: Pele
Pele is the Ali of boxing, both universally considered 'the best' or 'the kings'
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Re: Pele- Rest In Peace
RIP to the GOAT
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Re: Pele- Updates fans on his health
This is the danger of judging based solely on statistics. To see Pele play was to see true genius. What the statistics don't show are the fearful beatings he would take every time he stepped on the pitch. They don't show three men would collapse on him every time he got the ball. He was the best player I have ever seen.Cjay wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:54 pm
Feels odd that for all his plaudits he wasn't the best player in his position at any World Cup and even his scoring record isn't that unique.
Gerd Muller had similar at a similar time.
Would be interested to know why people like Puskas and Biscan and Eusebio aren't talked about like Pele despite having very similar records at the same time?
Puskas and Biscan actually had official better strike rates.
Is it purely the World Cup? Isn't that Pele benefitting from the quality around him given his World Cup stats are bettered by many including Muller and Eusebio?
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Re: Pele- Updates fans on his health
Very true, gone not forgotten.......John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:13 pm This is the danger of judging based solely on statistics. To see Pele play was to see true genius. What the statistics don't show are the fearful beatings he would take every time he stepped on the pitch. They don't show three men would collapse on him every time he got the ball. He was the best player I have ever seen.
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Re: Pele- Rest In Peace
RIP Pele.
Another football giant passes on.
Another football giant passes on.
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Re: Pele- Updates fans on his health
Sometimes people who follow sport forget about the person & concentrate too much on the stats.
Modern sports people are very rarely the equal of their predecessors in more ways than just numbers
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Re: Pele- Rest In Peace
RIP Pele
A football genius in a different era
A football genius in a different era
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Re: Pele- Rest In Peace
Really sad news.
Pele somehow managed to get through life without alienating anyone.
The first true World Football Legend
RIP.
Pele somehow managed to get through life without alienating anyone.
The first true World Football Legend
RIP.
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"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
"Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
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Re: Pele- Updates fans on his health
Fair enoug, not gonna debate his achievements day he passed.John in Louisiana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:13 pm This is the danger of judging based solely on statistics. To see Pele play was to see true genius. What the statistics don't show are the fearful beatings he would take every time he stepped on the pitch. They don't show three men would collapse on him every time he got the ball. He was the best player I have ever seen.
Just curious, was clearly a great man and player.
Sad day.
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Re: Pele- Rest In Peace
Statement from his family
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Re: Pele- Rest In Peace
RIP the greatest footballer ever!
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