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Cardiff City v Leeds United
Cardiff City
Cardiff City
2–2
FA Cup, 3rd Round
08/01/2023
Cardiff City Stadium
Leeds United
Leeds United
All-time record vs Cardiff City
66
Played
21
Won
16
Drawn
29
Lost
+5
GD
32%
Win %
Away record
32
Played
7
Won
7
Drawn
18
Lost
-14
GD
22%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
21/06/2020 Cardiff City Stadium 2–0 L Championship ↗
14/12/2019 Elland Road 3–3 D Championship ↗
03/02/2018 Elland Road 1–4 L Championship ↗
26/09/2017 Cardiff City Stadium 3–1 L Championship ↗
11/02/2017 Elland Road 0–2 L Championship ↗
All-time top scorers vs Cardiff City
#PlayerGoals
1 Patrick Bamford 5
2 Joel Piroe 3
3 Jim Storrie 3
4 Bobby Forrest 3
5 Wilfried Gnonto 3
Starting XI
Goa Robles
Def Llorente
Def Struijk ©
Def Firpo
Mid Greenwood
Mid Gyabi
Mid Aaronson
Mid Gnonto
For Gelhardt
Substitutes
SUB Wober
SUB Moreno
SUB Drameh
SUB Joseph
SUB Perkins
Unused Substitutes
-- Ayling
-- Roca
-- Harrison
-- Klaesson
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Re: Leeds Utd v Cardiff City Match Thread - Marsch makes seven changes. Cardiff make eight changes.

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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:43 pm We improved significantly with Drameh at RB, Rodrigo up top & Wober controlling the midfield
Rasmus going through a rough patch. But still think he's a solid player for us.

That said, I really think we should have spent the Rasmus elsewhere and given Drameh a chance. We knew we had another year of Ayling. Drameh would have made a decent 2nd right back.
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:46 pm I've said for a while now that Perkins should be ahead of Gelhardt, but Joffy gets picked as he's a fan favourite. WH were fuming when Perkins left, he's a better talent. 👍
Perkins scored a tap in. He's still got something to prove. Joffy is ahead of him because he scored a few important goals last season. Perkins is a great prospect. But I think Joffy is a year ahead of him in development.
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Madron wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:04 pm :tup:
Football is all about emotion.
Sometimes just winning is all you need.
f**k all the science and analysing. Too much of that and the real joy of the game is lost.
f**k the stats and use your eyes ... and try not to let the jerking of the knee to obstruct your view
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faaip wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:52 pm We played well for the most of the game, dominated first 25 before the makeshift defence fell apart for a while. All Leeds second half, great goal from Rodders again, missed the pen but made the keeper make the save which was decent. Joseph looked good, decent effort to try to drag the ball back late, good cut back from Rodders but there was a lot of work to put that away... Then Firpo (I do think goals should be automatically given in these circumstances) incredibly cheated of a goal

Firpo then confirmed his MOTM with a flick for Perkins the predator to put it away for a very deserved draw
There's a rule in basketball called goaltending. If the ball is going in the basket, you can't flip it out. Same should apply in footy. Maybe award a goal and give a yellow card.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:08 pm Perkins scored a tap in. He's still got something to prove. Joffy is ahead of him because he scored a few important goals last season. Perkins is a great prospect. But I think Joffy is a year ahead of him in development.
Gelhardt scored 2 tap ins and our fans acted like he's the second coming of prime R9. My comment had nothing to do with his goal anyway, as I've said for a while that Perkins needs a chance, and I haven't been impressed with Gelhardt all season tbh.
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SG90 wrote: Professional footballers earning thousands of pounds a week should be able to score easy chances. Struijk, Joseph and Rodrigo all culprits, Greenwood too as he had a great chance.
Not forgetting Willy's free header first half.

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faaip wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:55 pm Not by me ... Actually thought the 21's very good today, Fernandez looks good, Perkins scored, Drameh looked good, Gyabi excellent
I don't always agree with faaip but I do on this. Some of the criticism of them on here is depressing.
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faaip wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:58 pm The issue today was exactly the one I made pre match. You muck around with the centre back pairing and you pay a price. Start Koch and Cooper and we win that at a canter
Aye you called it right with regard to playing our best CB's, Faaip.

Especially as we had no Adams as well to protect the defence, though Gyabi impressed me in the first 30 minutes.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:37 pm My good pal from Sussex has got us in the quarter-finals already.

The thought of beating Cardiff, BW or Accy plus a team in the 5th round doesn't inspire me :lol:
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BGwhite wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:12 pm Not forgetting Willy's free header first half.

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Of course :tup: Completely forgot that
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:01 pm You can't praise Marsch though on here :tup:
No. Not praising him at all. Been here 12 months and not sure we look any better. His starting line up didnt work. But the subs did.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:06 pm Rasmus going through a rough patch. But still think he's a solid player for us.

That said, I really think we should have spent the Rasmus elsewhere and given Drameh a chance. We knew we had another year of Ayling. Drameh would have made a decent 2nd right back.
Based on current form, it has to be Ayling at the moment.
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:06 pm Rasmus going through a rough patch. But still think he's a solid player for us.

That said, I really think we should have spent the Rasmus elsewhere and given Drameh a chance. We knew we had another year of Ayling. Drameh would have made a decent 2nd right back.
I thought Drameh was very composed when he came on.
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Chilli D wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:12 pm I don't always agree with faaip but I do on this. Some of the criticism of them on here is depressing.
I see it as criticism of the board, rather than the players. Well at least from my point it is. We should be improving the first team before the second division of the u21s.
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BGwhite wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:12 pm Not forgetting Willy's free header first half.

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Free Willy :lol:
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SG90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:11 pm Gelhardt scored 2 tap ins and our fans acted like he's the second coming of prime R9. My comment had nothing to do with his goal anyway, as I've said for a while that Perkins needs a chance, and I haven't been impressed with Gelhardt all season tbh.
There are options for both. I think Gelhardt's career right now would be better with a loan move so he can play every week.

And I would like to see Perkins get some time off the bench. He's clearly a class prospect.
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1964white wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:14 pm I thought Drameh was very composed when he came on.
He was, but bear in mind that Cardiff's reserves were knackered by then :)
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:13 pm No. Not praising him at all. Been here 12 months and not sure we look any better. His starting line up didnt work. But the subs did.
I think he's done ok, not sure we'd be any further up the table with a new manager. With the fighting spirit we have, it'd be silly to make a change imo.
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BGwhite wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:12 pm Not forgetting Willy's free header first half.

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That was almost comical. Sandwiched in between 2 CB's and the little man still gets a full blooded header in
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White Riot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:12 pm Away to lower league teams is usually a mare for us
Tell me about it, mate. I attended them, Sutton finished me off.
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