I bloody hope so Kenny but they are one of the inform teams in the league, it will be hard. The bold tosser has really turned them around since the Brighton and brentford games, pains me to say it
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
Eriksen and Casemiro make them tick and he was playing them well together, McTomishite is also injured which should disrupt their 2-3-1 in front of the defence enough to give us the upper hand, he's sorted their defence out a bit better and probably better than ours, but if like i think Jesse will and we get in their face, we might just have the better of them attacking wise.Cumbriarents wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:31 pm I bloody hope so Kenny but they are one of the inform teams in the league, it will be hard. The bold tosser has really turned them around since the Brighton and brentford games, pains me to say it
Still being proven right years on.
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
God I hope so, I hate them more than anybodyKennyb41 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:37 pm Eriksen and Casemiro make them tick and he was playing them well together, McTomishite is also injured which should disrupt their 2-3-1 in front of the defence enough to give us the upper hand, he's sorted their defence out a bit better and probably better than ours, but if like i think Jesse will and we get in their face, we might just have the better of them attacking wise.
Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
I hate them more than hate itself, more than Yank owners raping and pillaging our Premier league, now that's hate.
Still being proven right years on.
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
Don't know if anyones mentioned it , but Saturdays fixtures have all of the bottom 9 (except us & Forest) playing sides in the top half of the league.
Everton 12:30 Arsenal
Aston Villa 15:00 Leicester City
Brentford 15:00 Southampton
Brighton & Hove Albion 15:00 AFC Bournemouth
Manchester United 15:00 Crystal Palace
Wolverhampton Wanderers 15:00 Liverpool
Newcastle United 17:30 West Ham United
Can't see many (if any) points for the teams at bottom.
Might have a £10 roll up.
Everton 12:30 Arsenal
Aston Villa 15:00 Leicester City
Brentford 15:00 Southampton
Brighton & Hove Albion 15:00 AFC Bournemouth
Manchester United 15:00 Crystal Palace
Wolverhampton Wanderers 15:00 Liverpool
Newcastle United 17:30 West Ham United
Can't see many (if any) points for the teams at bottom.
Might have a £10 roll up.
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
I'll predict Everton to get a point and Bournemouth and Southampton to claim shock away wins. Maybe also draws for Wolves and West Ham.Madron wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:44 pm Don't know if anyones mentioned it , but Saturdays fixtures have all of the bottom 9 (except us & Forest) playing sides in the top half of the league.
Everton 12:30 Arsenal
Aston Villa 15:00 Leicester City
Brentford 15:00 Southampton
Brighton & Hove Albion 15:00 AFC Bournemouth
Manchester United 15:00 Crystal Palace
Wolverhampton Wanderers 15:00 Liverpool
Newcastle United 17:30 West Ham United
Can't see many (if any) points for the teams at bottom.
Might have a £10 roll up.
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
Interesting to see this post, by Cjay, in releation to the Jesse interview after the Chelsea 3-0 win
Interesting that when we won back in August that the players were getting all that right but as the season progressed they seemingly unlearnt it all which is obviously why we lost game after game.
Interesting that the players 'understood their roles' had got to grips with 'what the tactics are now' the 'roles and tactics were clear' our defenders 'Robin and Diego as good as they have played in their careers' we were 'aggresive' and we 'kept playing brave.'Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:37 pm Marsch's here - impress you?
Good performance. Best since I've been here. Nice to see. Not just the result, but we were the better team. We created a complex match plan which included if they did different things. The more we can have variability, the better. Good performance and individually what you start to see is a bunch of players that understand their roles.
Rodrigo
Been massive. Been all-in. Getting better every day. Committed highest level. Form of his life and we have bunch of guys now. Harrison, Aaronson. High level. Good sign. Roles and tactics, clear. You can see real potential
Clean sheet
Created goals about making those. Pascal adapted well. Robin and Diego as good as they have played in their careers. All good guys came in. Roca too. Hunger to grow and get better.
Half-time
We talked about modifying. We were ready if they built with three or four, we would adapt. Talked about with the ball, our match plan and how to commit to that. Pressure on us to remain aggressive. Southampton - defended deeper and were not aggressive enough. That part was good. Said don't play backwards or conservative. Kept playing brave and they did that.
The fans
Hope the fans start to see what the tactics are now. Now seeing, more info on what the tactics look like with and without the ball. Intelligent crowd, winning helps, but performances are in some ways more important.
Interesting that when we won back in August that the players were getting all that right but as the season progressed they seemingly unlearnt it all which is obviously why we lost game after game.
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
Paul,BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:30 am Oh look, here is Weasel.C171DBAF-657D-4B3C-952E-842A8E9AAE70.gif
Please just leave Weasel alone, the whole world owes him a living.....
Seriously mate he thrives on wearing two hats.......
My feed has been so much better since I blocked him after he showed his true colours and tried to bate me to bite at his discusting comments aim at me, sadly the mods did nothing to remove this smudge on the landscape
Stop worryin' about what people say, when it ain't gonna stop them anyway.
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
And back on topic, as ever I fully support the Leeds United manager, I supported Kenny's best mate right up to he capitulated....so I give Jesse till Easter to get things right, and I surely hope he does, and expect him too, if not, it will be time for a change, ...
Funny how all the Biesla fans wanted to give him til the end of the season , and possible relegation, but want Jess out NOW, Today ! .....double standards...not double meanings, as some would like to manipulate for their own agenda....
Funny how all the Biesla fans wanted to give him til the end of the season , and possible relegation, but want Jess out NOW, Today ! .....double standards...not double meanings, as some would like to manipulate for their own agenda....
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
That pretty well sums it up.BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:30 am Oh look, here is Weasel.C171DBAF-657D-4B3C-952E-842A8E9AAE70.gif
Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
velo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:10 am Paul,
Please just leave Weasel alone, the whole world owes him a living.....
Seriously mate he thrives on wearing two hats.......
My feed has been so much better since I blocked him after he showed his true colours and tried to bate me to bite at his discusting comments aim at me, sadly the mods did nothing to remove this smudge on the landscape

For a person who has blocked him, it's good that you tell everyone he's living rent free inside your head!
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
As you say there's a cut off point between the next manager being bought in to affect a premier rescue act or a manager bought in with promotion from the Championship in mind. The former would need as long as possible and becomes harder to find the less games are left and the latter is a concession to our plight.... a hope for the best and plan for the worst appointmentCjay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:09 pm He hasn't earned more time.
I understand your point about January but say we give him until end of February and he has 4 points from 5 games which is about what he has now.
Now it's 22 points from 24 games
We have 14 games left including Chelsea, Brentford, Arsenal, Newcastle, Fulham, Man City, Liverpool and Spurs.
It's asking a lot of a new manager to get the points from there.
You run the risk of pushing the loyalty to Marsch to far and leaving a new manager a really difficult situation and a potential new manager may look at that and think "yeah that's really difficult it's not for me".
And then you limit yourself with decent manager not wanting to take the risk
The earlier Marsch goes the better chance we have of getting a decent long term appointment.
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Option 3 being stick with the incumbent and re-access in the off season. Think this is my favoured option in the hope we get the light bulb moment in what is a complex system.
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This, for me, is key. We cannot afford good performances but 0 points. Despite what Jesse and some on here think, we are in a relegation scrap and points are all that matter. I don't care how ugly the performances are if we are taking points off the teams around us. How many games can we honestly say we have played well throughout and collected all 3 points? The Cardiff replay is the only one that springs to mind and they were totally gash. We've been Jekyll and Hyde in every other game. Ideal scenario is we put in good performances and collect points along the way, but I've seen scant evidence of that so far under Marsch. If the players he now has make a difference and we go on a run (scum games aside, let's be realistic), I will be pleasantly surprised and will give credit where it's due, but I just don't see it. Genuinely hope I'm wrong, because if I'm not, then there's every chance we're going down.
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
I agree - he is the new Smudge. Best thing is to block him - he spends all his time on here baiting people. This seems to give him his daily fix.velo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:10 am Paul,
Please just leave Weasel alone, the whole world owes him a living.....
Seriously mate he thrives on wearing two hats.......
My feed has been so much better since I blocked him after he showed his true colours and tried to bate me to bite at his discusting comments aim at me, sadly the mods did nothing to remove this smudge on the landscape
Made me laugh when people asked him why he got banned for 2 weeks. No mention at all in his reply about him calling me an idiot ( for the crime of having a different point of view to his own) a day or two after Hector had told everybody that personal insults would result in a holiday...Who me guv ?
And he'd already been warned by YS to stop making allegations about me and Overman being the same person - something that Smudge used to peddle on here as well. And he got a PM warning from YS a couple of weeks ago for making vile sexual comments about me on here, which he thinks is banter and humour. How he hasn't been banned for good is beyond me.
Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
Marsch has proven nothing; neither that he is a capable manager, nor that his system is effective at this level. There is no comparison, so it's not clear what you, and others, expect to demonstrate my continually making it.
Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
Rest bite. A bite size piece of rest. I’m just having one now. I think Marsch will get one if we beat Forest
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Re: Jesse Marsch-How long to turn it around?
I sometimes get the impression that JM is expecting the season to improve any minute without any adjustment to the tactics he insists on.
So far it’s not worked. Luck and the Geordies kept us in the league.
A few good players may get him out the mire. I don’t think he can.
So far it’s not worked. Luck and the Geordies kept us in the league.
A few good players may get him out the mire. I don’t think he can.