Jack Harrison

[1964white]

Sky Sports reporting we will match Leicester offer . . . .

So Harrison will become one of our highest earners.

Ludicrous

The things you have to do to earn a wage rise, drive to Leicester & back

Unfortunately, NHS workers haven't got the same privileges, but that's another story.....

[weasel]

He has in no way earned parity with our top earners.

I believe in rewarding form not past.

Harrison has been largely awful since August (those performances against Cardiff reserves and Accrington Stanley have really changed the narrative it seems).

Only have to look at motm threads or match threads or this one, he has been largely crap.

Decent pro, gives his all, has the odd great game in between 10-15 absolutely awful.

He doesn't fit the system either.

He hasn't got the versatility our other attacking players have.

He should be a mid earner as we move past him and progress as a club

But if we are really going to match the 5.5 year contract Leicester offered and a significant wage rise then he will be near our top earners.

Decent pro, gives his all but, but he is a bang average Premier league winger, occasionally great, but often anonymous or awful.

Nothing wrong with that, but certainly doesn't justify a big wage rise.

I think there has to be a balance between rewarding past and form. Form can be temporary and it is easy to give someone a contract based on form and then it turns out to be a bit of a flash in the pan. Equally you can reward someone based on their past achievements but find they are on the way down, careerwise.

With Jack there is no reason to think his best days are behind him. He is at an age where he can still improve and nowhere near an age where you would expect a natural decline. He doesn't rely on express pace so it isn't like he would lose his pace. He hasn't had serious injuries so again no reason for him to slow down or decline. He isn't a 'one trick pony' so it isn't like the opposition has 'worked him out.' As such there is absolutely nothing to suggest that rewarding him on his past is a bad idea.

Formwise and yes he hasn't been in the best of form. That wouldn't be of concern as he has alway been inconsistent so no reason to suggest that he would remain out of form. Now if it is solely linked to the new role he is playing then it is more concerning as it does raise the question over whether he can play the role. However it isn't straightforward to judge and I think as regards that only time will tell. If he isn't suited to the role then we should know by the summer and if that is the case, and Marsch is still manager, then at that point it makes sense to sell. Him being on a higher wage than he is now is not going to put suitors off and the fact that a comparable club to us, Leicester, are willing to give him a pay rise suggests that he can comfortably demand that wage and for us not to pay would not be beneficial. His wage is worth whatever clubs are willing to pay, as such to keep him we realistically have to pay that. Different story if it is a money rich club that can afford obscene wages but that isn't the case at present so unfortunately what Leicester are willing to pay him would appear to be the going rate.

You describe him as a bang average Premier League winger and that may be the case but it would appear what Leicester are prepared to offer is the going rate for a bang average premier league player.

[Cjay]

I think there has to be a balance between rewarding past and form. Form can be temporary and it is easy to give someone a contract based on form and then it turns out to be a bit of a flash in the pan. Equally you can reward someone based on their past achievements but find they are on the way down, careerwise.

With Jack there is no reason to think his best days are behind him. He is at an age where he can still improve and nowhere near an age where you would expect a natural decline. He doesn't rely on express pace so it isn't like he would lose his pace. He hasn't had serious injuries so again no reason for him to slow down or decline. He isn't a 'one trick pony' so it isn't like the opposition has 'worked him out.' As such there is absolutely nothing to suggest that rewarding him on his past is a bad idea.

Formwise and yes he hasn't been in the best of form. That wouldn't be of concern as he has alway been inconsistent so no reason to suggest that he would remain out of form. Now if it is solely linked to the new role he is playing then it is more concerning as it does raise the question over whether he can play the role. However it isn't straightforward to judge and I think as regards that only time will tell. If he isn't suited to the role then we should know by the summer and if that is the case, and Marsch is still manager, then at that point it makes sense to sell. Him being on a higher wage than he is now is not going to put suitors off and the fact that a comparable club to us, Leicester, are willing to give him a pay rise suggests that he can comfortably demand that wage and for us not to pay would not be beneficial. His wage is worth whatever clubs are willing to pay, as such to keep him we realistically have to pay that. Different story if it is a money rich club that can afford obscene wages but that isn't the case at present so unfortunately what Leicester are willing to pay him would appear to be the going rate.

You describe him as a bang average Premier League winger and that may be the case but it would appear what Leicester are prepared to offer is the going rate for a bang average premier league player.

Issue is what for Leicester is a pretty reasonable salary for us will be near our top earners

On last accounts Leicester spent double our budget on wages

They operate on a much higher wage structure than we do as Phil said in his article.

So whilst I can maybe see the logic in extending his deal I don't see the logic in giving him a deal that he hasn't earned, and that is near parity with our top earners.

Leicester probably offered him somewhere in the £80-100k ballpark.

That for them isn't near there top earners, they were paying Ayoze Perez similar apparently.

But for us that is right up there with only Bamford and Rodrigo in that range.

That is my issue mainly.

[The Subhuman]

Not poor in my mind. He was our player, our player to recall back. Its football, these things happen.

Agreed and how often have we been shafted deadline day

[Cjay]

[DDB220]

There is a rumour that the deal didn’t go through because Jack was delayed due to driving into a cul-de-sac.

[The Subhuman]

lol

[foxy]

There is a rumour that the deal didn’t go through because Jack was delayed due to driving into a cul-de-sac.

[1964white]

There is a rumour that the deal didn’t go through because Jack was delayed due to driving into a cul-de-sac.

[whiteswan]

There is a rumour that the deal didn’t go through because Jack was delayed due to driving into a cul-de-sac.

Funny

[Cjay]

Phil Hay has confirmed Leicester were offering Jack Harrison £100k+ a week.

[Barlow Boy]

Phil Hay has confirmed Leicester were offering Jack Harrison £100k+ a week.

Absolute madness, and stinks of desperation on Leicester’s part.

[Cjay]

Had a passing accuracy of 46% vs Everton . . . .

50% at Elland Road vs Manure

66% at Old Trafford.

In those matches he created a grand total of 3 chances.

3 shots, none on target.

When the Leicester stuff came out some of our fans were horrified.

Made it sound like we were selling a top Premier league player.

If we survive (big if) then players like Harrison are the first we should be selling to look to improve.

46% pass accuracy ffs against crappy Everyon.

People will make the out of position argument but if Gnonto and Summerville can play in different roles why can't he?

Isn't like he is a world beater in his natural role.

Rant over.

The 46% stat that popped up wound me up.

Oh 1 assist 0 goals in last 18 Premier league games.

[Phild]

Certainly clear to me it was less than 50% by just watching
For me we can’t expect what he hasn’t got.
Sure he will be in the starting 11 this weekend

[The Subhuman]

And how many times has he played left wing in those 18 games?

[Boo Radley]

That performance was just abysmal. How Greenwood wasn’t sent it to replace him earlier defies belief.

[Phild]

Faaip. What is you’re point.
For any player in any offensive position has to have a significantly better return.
If not they should not be selected, any player, any team.

[JoeDenver]

And how many times has he played left wing in those 18 games?

Pure conjecture here, but I’d be willing to bet Gnonto or Summerville would be more ideal in the #10 role than Harrison.

[JoeDenver]

And another player mailing it in after signing a renewed contract. Queue Ayling as the next one if the pattern is consistent…

[1964white]

And how many times has he played left wing in those 18 games?

He is supposed to be a footballer.

How do you explain that set-piece cross straight into the Everton faithful?