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Yes start him but 3 sub appearances and questions being asked already? Give the lad at least a few games, especially considering his lack of football....
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A lot of upheaval since he came as well as other players, time is the essence, but, we need them up to speed asap, but he won't get gametime sat on the bench either.
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Mick Jones shoulder wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:27 pm Yes start him but 3 sub appearances and questions being asked already? Give the lad at least a few games, especially considering his lack of football....
Unbelievable Mick. Its taken Rodrigo 2 seasons and the daggers are already out for this kid. First we need to find where is best position is.
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mentalcase wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:37 pm A lot of upheaval since he came as well as other players, time is the essence, but, we need them up to speed asap, but he won't get gametime sat on the bench either.
In the last 3 weeks, Rutter has:

- moved club for a record fee
- moved country
- made his debut away to Accrington and everything was on the up - first game since November
- played in the shambles that was Forest away
- saw the manager fired
- came off the bench in Old Trafford in front of 74,000 fans in a rollercoaster match .... and gets to face them again this weekend

What must be going through his head - he probably thinks he is stuck inside a washing machine - he is still only 20.
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Looks promising. Looking forward to seeing more.
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Pullhard wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:54 pm In the last 3 weeks, Rutter has:

- moved club for a record fee
- moved country
- made his debut away to Accrington and everything was on the up - first game since November
- played in the shambles that was Forest away
- saw the manager fired
- came off the bench in Old Trafford in front of 74,000 fans in a rollercoaster match .... and gets to face them again this weekend

What must be going through his head - he probably thinks he is stuck inside a washing machine - he is still only 20.
Yea , thats a massive upheaval as I say, hopefully things will get better for him sharpish, a goal will help settle the nerves and get the fans with him :tup:
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He doesn't look a player battle hardened for relegation to me.... but we are where we are. Doesn't look like he does discipline that well either, he looks like he needs more of a roaming free role. He's defo not a hold-up player. The managers are damned if they do. They bring him on to try and win the game, if we draw 0-0 people would be saying why didn't we bring him on to go for it.. He needs to confide with Rodrigo and find out how he managed to steal a living for two years and he should be ok in his 3rd year.
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For me a club record signing ,in our situation, should not be showing signs of promise. He should be producing.
Not his fault whatsoever.
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Phild wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:57 pm For me a club record signing ,in our situation, should not be showing signs of promise. He should be producing.
Not his fault whatsoever.
It read a little contradicting that. Are you saying he's not good enough already?
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Gotta give Rutter time.

Tyler Roberts has over 100 appearances for us, and still done nowt.

I think Rutter will be good, but we've gotta give him a chance.

Like Aaronson, he needs toughened up a bit.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:23 pm Gotta give Rutter time.

Tyler Roberts has over 100 appearances for us, and still done nowt.

I think Rutter will be good, but we've gotta give him a chance.

Like Aaronson, he needs toughened up a bit.
Nail on the head about getting toughened up, both of them i think will be better next season once they become more used to the physicality of the Premiership. Well i hope its in the Premiership :)
Its way too early to judge Rutter.
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What I’m saying is in our situation why do we break our transfer record in January and prepare to give him time we simply do not have.
Does not make any sense whatsoever to me.
Again, do not blame the player, but deeply question the piece of business.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:23 pm Gotta give Rutter time.

Tyler Roberts has over 100 appearances for us, and still done nowt.

I think Rutter will be good, but we've gotta give him a chance.

Like Aaronson, he needs toughened up a bit.
But in our position should we be signing players with potential who need time.

Hardly in a position to wait 6,12,18months.

Not Rutter fault but big price tags Bring expectations and immediate impact is one of them.

Clearly talented but needs to show more fairly soon
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Exactly my point clay
If he needs time and development don’t understand why he represents our record signing.
We have signed enough of this type of youngster in recent years for a fraction of the cost
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GreennWhite wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:31 pm Nail on the head about getting toughened up, both of them i think will be better next season once they become more used to the physicality of the Premiership. Well i hope its in the Premiership :)
Its way too early to judge Rutter.
Yeah, I guess they won't be hanging around for the even more physical stuff at Millwall and Cardiff 8-)
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Cjay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:34 pm But in our position should we be signing players with potential who need time.

Hardly in a position to wait 6,12,18months.

Not Rutter fault but big price tags Bring expectations and immediate impact is one of them.

Clearly talented but needs to show more fairly soon
Similar to Aaronson, I think these are more investments in our future.

We spent peanuts on Gnonto and he's had an immediate impact.

Might have been wiser getting a decent left back in.

Bamford, not that he's perfect, kept their backline honest yesterday, but they were able to shrug off Rutter and Aaronson easily.
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Phild wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:57 pm For me a club record signing ,in our situation, should not be showing signs of promise. He should be producing.
Not his fault whatsoever.
Indeed, he should be ready to walk straight into the first team.

Sadly he isn't, could only happen at Leeds.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:34 pm But in our position should we be signing players with potential who need time.

Hardly in a position to wait 6,12,18months.

Not Rutter fault but big price tags Bring expectations and immediate impact is one of them.

Clearly talented but needs to show more fairly soon
Who can we sign tho? Most of the players we were after in the summer laughed at us. Gnonto was bought in to fill the void. Ok like Raph before him it turned out fine. Give the guy a breather the tactics don't suit his fee style. Could we have got Mitrovic at the same price? I don't know but that's the type of player we needed.
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With the chances we create, most of the attacking line ought to be scoring, problem is, we'll never know when the golden boy gets all the game time and continues to fail, oh hang on though, whilst he continues to do a lot of intelligent running and link-up play, ..............................hope I haven't upset anybody.
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White Riot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:45 pm Similar to Aaronson, I think these are more investments in our future.

We spent peanuts on Gnonto and he's had an immediate impact.

Might have been wiser getting a decent left back in.

Bamford, not that he's perfect, kept their backline honest yesterday, but they were able to shrug off Rutter and Aaronson easily.
Lightweight players do my head in, maybe it's born out of watching Revie's boys for twelve years.

Gnonto is the complete opposite to Rutter & Aaronson.
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