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Oh jeez, we're well and truly on the manager go round yet again.
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Orange Box wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:15 pm Bet you’re popular with your neighbours, calling ilkley part of Bradford
They're snobs, I'm a realist.
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Well you all listened to a bunch of irate Dutchman (are there any other kind) and screamed the walls down when we brought Schrueder over...

Why because we all think we know more than we do.
And I said so at the time.

And now we will never know.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:57 pm Well you all listened to a bunch of irate Dutchman (are there any other kind) and screamed the walls down when we brought Schrueder over...

Why because we all think we know more than we do.
And I said so at the time.

And now we will never know.
Absolutely nothing about Schreuder's record suggested an improvement

Gracia actually has a better record as a manager

Neither were right
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Overman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:21 pm Well, I am travelled man and have experienced the riches and the poverty. It's all transient on the absurd journey towards our ending.

Went all existential there, it's what Leeds does to you.
I was thinking just yesterday that Sartre was probably a closet Leeds fan :lol: .
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Right i'm off ta bed na.

Will the last person here make sure they turns the lights off on my Prem dream for the next 20.

Don't say i didn't warn ya all.

You've got what you wished for, well done.

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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:59 pm Absolutely nothing about Schreuder's record suggested an improvement

Gracia actually has a better record as a manager

Neither were right
Thing is Cjay is truth be told Leeds fans all jumped onto a single narrative being forwarded by the Ajax fanbase who were upset thet had lost Ten Haag.

Noone bothered to look stop and think, as is the nature of these things twitter fed hysteria fed into our frustration at a lack of progress on finding a replacement for Marsch and that fed into a growing distrust of the Leeds board.

They wilted under the noise.
Bowed to uninformed prejudice.

But what we didn't know was the true story of the Schrueder experiment because no-one bothered to stop and do any actual research.

What record could be referred to? He hadnt even been given a year.

Only your prejudice decides that neither were right. But Schruders ideas alighted a hell of a lot more with how our squad is built that Gracias
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:59 pm Absolutely nothing about Schreuder's record suggested an improvement

Gracia actually has a better record as a manager

Neither were right
Oh and Arteta has a great managerial pedigree hasn't he...
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Let’s play the game where we all pick the next Leeds manager. The trick is to pick a manager who we have absolutely no chance of attracting. Then when the club’s actual appointment fails - you can write a few messages about how X was the wrong choice, remember to emphasise that you had pointed this out previously and if only the board had appointed your choice all would have been rosy.

Whilst enjoying your “ I told you so glow” take advantage of your new forum kudos by suggesting a new game about what the squad needs for next season, be sure to get in first with a proven 20 a season goal scorer (name not required).
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:36 pm Let’s play the game where we all pick the next Leeds manager. The trick is to pick a manager who we have absolutely no chance of attracting. Then when the club’s actual appointment fails - you can write a few messages about how X was the wrong choice, remember to emphasise that you had pointed this out previously and if only the board had appointed your choice all would have been rosy.

Whilst enjoying your “ I told you so glow” take advantage of your new forum kudos by suggesting a new game about what the squad needs for next season, be sure to get in first with a proven 20 a season goal scorer (name not required).
Spot on, made me laugh too.

Not long ago ,post Marsch exit, there was rumblings on here, for Viera to take over (as if) and lauded for taking CP to the dizzy heights of mid table .Thereafter he couldn't win a game to save his life for months and was promptly sacked.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:36 pm Let’s play the game where we all pick the next Leeds manager. The trick is to pick a manager who we have absolutely no chance of attracting. Then when the club’s actual appointment fails - you can write a few messages about how X was the wrong choice, remember to emphasise that you had pointed this out previously and if only the board had appointed your choice all would have been rosy.

Whilst enjoying your “ I told you so glow” take advantage of your new forum kudos by suggesting a new game about what the squad needs for next season, be sure to get in first with a proven 20 a season goal scorer (name not required).
:lol: :lol: :lol: Spot on DDB we are going to have the whole of the summer months spent with I'm right your wrong posts about this.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:23 pm Thing is Cjay is truth be told Leeds fans all jumped onto a single narrative being forwarded by the Ajax fanbase who were upset thet had lost Ten Haag.

Noone bothered to look stop and think, as is the nature of these things twitter fed hysteria fed into our frustration at a lack of progress on finding a replacement for Marsch and that fed into a growing distrust of the Leeds board.

They wilted under the noise.
Bowed to uninformed prejudice.

But what we didn't know was the true story of the Schrueder experiment because no-one bothered to stop and do any actual research.

What record could be referred to? He hadnt even been given a year.

Only your prejudice decides that neither were right. But Schruders ideas alighted a hell of a lot more with how our squad is built that Gracias
For Schreuder to have the level of haters from Ajax that he did he must have been pretty spectacularly bad.

Ex players spoke out against him as well (including Ajax legend Daley Blind).

We will never know how it would have gone Ian of course.

But there were definitely enough red flags.

Funnily enough Gracia is actually much closer to Marsch than Schreuder

If you go back abd look he has liked a narrow 4-4-2 formation (even using the old 4-2-2-2) with emphasis on getting it forward and press etc.

His tactical profile read like a Spanish Jesse Marsch.

Weirdly though he has done none of that here

So who knows.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:25 pm Oh and Arteta has a great managerial pedigree hasn't he...
Arteta has never failed at a club that historically its been almost impossible to fail at domestically . . .

Besides do you trust Orta's judgement?

I certainly don't and Schreuder was apparently his pick.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:37 pm Arteta has never failed at a club that historically its been almost impossible to fail at domestically . . .

Besides do you trust Orta's judgement?

I certainly don't and Schreuder was apparently his pick.
That's probably the most relevant point. Orta's judgement coupled with Schreuder's record.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:36 pm Let’s play the game where we all pick the next Leeds manager. The trick is to pick a manager who we have absolutely no chance of attracting. Then when the club’s actual appointment fails - you can write a few messages about how X was the wrong choice, remember to emphasise that you had pointed this out previously and if only the board had appointed your choice all would have been rosy.

Whilst enjoying your “ I told you so glow” take advantage of your new forum kudos by suggesting a new game about what the squad needs for next season, be sure to get in first with a proven 20 a season goal scorer (name not required).
Did anyone really believe we could attract Bielsa? It isn't however all about getting some big name but getting someone in who can do something like Bielsa did. Thankfully we have a director of football that is in charge of that....
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:03 pm Did you post them because there's something wrong with your brain
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weasel wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:45 pm That's probably the most relevant point. Orta's judgement coupled with Schreuder's record.
Exactly

Manager whose record is dreadful picked by a DOF whose record is dreadful
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I'd phone Kjetil Knutsen

See if he fancies it.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:52 pm I'd phone Kjetil Knutsen

See if he fancies it.
Was thinking the same. Him, Rafa, or Favre.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:52 pm I'd phone Kjetil Knutsen

See if he fancies it.
Me too, get him in and basically it is gives him 4 matches to judge what players he wants to keep for next season. If by some miracle he kept us up great but if not then it is early preparation for next season. I wouldn't have thought he'd be 'too big' to come to Leeds as a likely championship club as despite his success in Norway it would still be a huge step up for him.

For whatever reason something seems to have happened between Gracia and the players as it all seemed so positive until half time v Palace.
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DDB220 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:36 pm Let’s play the game where we all pick the next Leeds manager. The trick is to pick a manager who we have absolutely no chance of attracting. Then when the club’s actual appointment fails - you can write a few messages about how X was the wrong choice, remember to emphasise that you had pointed this out previously and if only the board had appointed your choice all would have been rosy.

Whilst enjoying your “ I told you so glow” take advantage of your new forum kudos by suggesting a new game about what the squad needs for next season, be sure to get in first with a proven 20 a season goal scorer (name not required).
Mark Bower, Bradford PA manager. If we could pull it off, then Orta would most certainly be redeemed. I really can't see him leaving Park Avenue for Leeds tbh.

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