The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 24th May) - Could Gnonto return to Serie A for as little as £8.6m?

[Irish Ian]

Why does a DOF have to feel they need their name up in lights. Just do your job and let the results speak for themselves. The manager, players & coaches maybe but I don’t need to know who does the other stuff, just do it properly

How many can you name?

There is your answer

[Jaydog]

How many can you name?

There is your answer

Not sure it is, Ian.
Do you think every DOF is like Orta. Perhaps my point should be more specific to him. If you’re good at your job then let that do the talking. No need for histrionics. I’d say in my experience of life the mouthy ones are the least talented.

[BradWhite]

I watch women’s sports particularly beach volleyball. Tremendous amount of skill involved…………. So much so that often only a slow mo can reveal the true level of appreciation.

I watch the odd international match and highlights of the WSL now and again. What I do like is there are no theatrics, no cheating, and the ref isn’t hounded by the players. Women just get on with it, which is a lesson for the men’s game.

Know nothing about Webber, I am not a fan of the DOF role in truth. It appears to be a role for blah merchants, surely a good manager has an idea of the players he wants. This statistical approach has merits but so does good scouting network consisting of people who know their apples.

I never thought woman's boxing would be entertaining, there's been some decent fights lately.

Katie Taylor v Chantelle Cameron was a barn burner, those lasses take no prisoners, brutal with no holding or grappling for time, they get my full respect, better than most of the male fights I have seen.

It's Webber's opinion, he's not being sexist or insulting, I think nowadays people are far too quick to jump on the politically correct bandwagon.

[Jaydog]

I watch women’s sports particularly beach volleyball. Tremendous amount of skill involved…………. So much so that often only a slow mo can reveal the true level of appreciation.

I watch the odd international match and highlights of the WSL now and again. What I do like is there are no theatrics, no cheating, and the ref isn’t hounded by the players. Women just get on with it, which is a lesson for the men’s game.

Know nothing about Webber, I am not a fan of the DOF role in truth. It appears to be a role for blah merchants, surely a good manager has an idea of the players he wants. This statistical approach has merits but so does good scouting network consisting of people who know their apples.

Oh yeah. Of course. Nudge nudge wink wink. And the slow mo. Yeah definitely. Great skill in tiny pants

[eastyorkshirewhite]

i have a cousin who is a season ticket holder at Norwich and says Webber is useless.

[DDB220]

Oh yeah. Of course. Nudge nudge wink wink. And the slow mo. Yeah definitely. Great skill in tiny pants

Not sure what you mean, my interest is purely down to skill. I find the Brazilians and Swedish have particularly good form.

[Jaydog]

Not sure what you mean, my interest is purely down to skill. I find the Brazilians and Swedish have particularly good form.

Of course.
I do love a Brazilian myself. You can’t beat it.

[DDB220]

i have a cousin who is a season ticket holder at Norwich and says Webber is useless.

What a great job if you can blag your way into a role. To be fair there is scope for that if you can talk bollocks which people hang off - consider the dude at Reims who has sod all coaching experience and yet somehow impressed the board with his CM skills and is now head coach, and to be fair hasn’t done so bad.

I realise there are some ex footballers fulfilling the DOF role, but there are also just people who have networked their way into the role. Hat’s off to them, I am sure most of us would jump at the chance of earning stupid money for what is often a luck based job, involving one of life’s great passions.

[weasel]

Not sure it is, Ian.
Do you think every DOF is like Orta. Perhaps my point should be more specific to him. If you’re good at your job then let that do the talking. No need for histrionics. I’d say in my experience of life the mouthy ones are the least talented.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Gobby McGobsh*te

[Jaydog]

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Gobby McGobsh*te

That’s weird. That’s exactly what the Mrs calls me.

[Ellandback1]

I never thought woman's boxing would be entertaining, there's been some decent fights lately.

Katie Taylor v Chantelle Cameron was a barn burner, those lasses take no prisoners, brutal with no holding or grappling for time, they get my full respect, better than most of the male fights I have seen.

It's Webber's opinion, he's not being sexist or insulting, I think nowadays people are far too quick to jump on the politically correct bandwagon.

Or MMA. Blimey, highly skilled and do a lot of damage...

[Ratscoot]

Exactly! I'm a girlie and cannot stand womens club football and it really annoys me when I see a game advertised and find that its the women! I will watch an international comp if I deem it important enough to me (not very often)

It's time people were allowed a view on a subject, we once were. Too many Nanny's around these days.....

Exactly Swannie, heaven forbid if we were allowed an opinion but the same people who push this rhetoric, also love to have an opinion and push it down our throats.

[Orange Box]

Careful...............

Always

[Victor_Notts-17]

WFT? This thread has nothing about Gnonto in it?

[The Subhuman]

From a fan on the Norwich fans forum:


A mate and I were going on about Webber and trying to think of all his signings and work out how many we thought were good/bad. I thought I would put all the signings during his time (that I remember) on here and get your thoughts too.

G: Good / B: Bad / A: Average / D: Don't know (as not seen him play much if at all)

These are my ratings. I have added all players I remember, obviously some youth who I haven't added.

GK:
Fahrmann - B
Krul - G
Gunn - A
Mair - D
Nyland - D

DEF:

Mumba - A
Gibson - A
Giannoulis - B
Zimmermann - G
Husband - B
Hanley - G
Franke - B
Raggett - B
Richards - D
Byram - A
Bushiri - D
Passlack - B
Omobamidele - G
Hiese - B
Famewo - D
McCallum - D
Xavi - A
Williams - G
Kabak - B

MID:

Tzolis - B
Adshead - D
Amadou - B
Duda - B
Gilmour - B
Watkins - B
Vrancic - G
Trybull - A
Stiepermann - A
Dowell - A
Dennis - D
Reed - A
Phillips - B
Placheta - B
McLean - A
Leitner - A
Hernandez - A
Sorensen - A
Skipp -G
Sinani - D
Edwards - B
Emi - G
Mourgos - D
Martin - A
Marshall - B
Sitti - D
Rupp - B
Roberts - B
McAlear - D
Fitzpatrick - D
Rashica - A
Normann - A
Melou - B
Gibbs - D
Clarke - D

ST:

Sargent - B
Abrahams - D
Idah - A
Srbeny - A
Rhodes - G
Pukki - G
Soto - D
Bloomfield - D
Ahmade - D
Hugill - B
Drmic - B


So

Good = 10
Average = 18
Bad = 22
Don't know/never...hardly seen = 19 (you could consider some of these as bad as we signed them and they weren't good enough).
Las

About the same maybe worse than Orta but tbh a fan's opinion is likely to be missing a lot of variables in the analysis ..... Mine usually is which is why I allow for it

[weasel]

About the same maybe worse than Orta but tbh a fan's opinion is likely to be missing a lot of variables in the analysis ..... Mine usually is which is why I allow for it

It is what makes judging someone in charge of transfers a hard and very subjective task. Even a successful player can be judged on the fee rather than what they have done. For example if they had paid £10m for Pukki I'm sure alot of fans would put it down as an average signing, done well in the championship but for £10m would expect him to do better in the premier league. Because they got him for nothing it is a huge success. You also have to judge based on the spend. Spend £10m for a premier league player and you are probably not expecting much so £10m and the player fails would be fairly much expected. Norwich don't seem to have ever spent much so it then makes every signing more of a gamble. If they had a budget of say £30m but you need 5 players than do you spend £30m on one player who is probably going to be a guaranteed success. You do that and that player is great but the squad is weak. The alternative though is to take 5 gambles on players at around £6m per player.

However after saying all that if your sole job is to find players and you have statistical anaylsis of every player in the world and a team of people to help you analyse the players you put on your shortlist then you should be getting it right more often than not.