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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 26th July, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Whites set to wrap up Darlow deal

Transfer guru Fabrizio Romano has revealed that Leeds are finally close to wrapping up the signature of Karl Darlow. The 32yo shot-stopper is surplus to requirements at St James Park following the arrival of Nick Pope last Summer. He spent the second half of last season on loan at Hull, where he made twelve appearances.

He was hotly tipped to join Bournemouth earlier this month, but the move broke down due to financial issues, and the player wanting to stay closer to family and friends in the North East. The Cherries are not set to sign Romanian goal-keeper Andrei Radu, giving Leeds free reign to pursue Darlow. Once Darlow arrives, it is believed that Leeds will give Illan Meslier permission to leave.





Where will Leeds goals come from this season?

The new season kicking off in just eleven days, and to say Leeds are not prepared is an understatement. Half of last season's starting line up have already deserted the sinking ship, with others forming an orderly queue for the exit door.

Leeds need goals if they are to win promotion back to the promised land; but where will they come from? Bamford has the agility of a rock, and the injury record of someone who has just jumped off a bridge onto oncoming traffic. Record signing Rutter (Leeds other striking option) isn't much better. Nobody knows where he should be playing (including himself), and only gets a mention due to his ridiculously high price tag.

Much of this is immaterial, as the distribtion is so pitiful. The last time Leeds won a game was back in February, against an awful Saints team (1-0), how long will it be until Leeds record another victory?





Where did things go wrong with Arronson

There's an interesting piece in the Athletic, in which Phil Hay asks why didn't things work out with Brendan Arronson at Elland Road? On paper, he should have been the ideal No 8; young, creative, a good passer of the ball, and an engine to match. He even passed the Bielsa test! At 22, and four years remaining on his contract, a loan move may not be the worst idea in the World. The problem is, what if Leeds don't bounce back at the first attempt? Not only will para-shoot payments be severely impacted, but a whole new set of players clauses may come into play!

Hay reveals that whilst Union Berlin currently don't have a purchase option, Arronson's release will remain active for as long as Leeds remain outside the top flight.

Former Leeds sporting director Victor Orta and Bielsa led the recruitment and made Aaronson a priority target for the January 2022 transfer window, but Salzburg wouldn’t budge. They held firm to their policy to not sell mid-season with a round of 16 Champions League tie with Bayern Munich looming in February. Aaronson was identified not because of his nationality or familiarity with Marsch, but his fit within Bielsa’s system and stellar performances in the Champions League group stage with Salzburg — particularly his underlying ground-covering and pressing metrics.

On the final day of the 2021-22 season. Leeds’ brush with the drop saw two relegation release clauses negotiated into Aaronson’s deal: one to leave permanently for a set fee; another to leave on a free loan provided a top division club covered the wages. Those clauses were activated once Leeds were relegated after the 2022-23 season. And so Aaronson will spend the season at Union, who are covering his salary but have no new purchase option. The 22-year-old’s release clause is only active if Leeds remain in the Championship.

A loan to Union may suit all parties. The German club made it clear in their pursuit that Aaronson would be a key addition and will have a pivotal role; it was enough to win the race ahead of Fulham and other clubs looking to bring him on loan. Aaronson’s fit in the Bundesliga in general should be snug, even more so for a high-pressing Union team. The lure of the Champions League was strong as well — and he has made a promising start already, scoring in a friendly against Hungarian side Zalaegerszeg, and featuring in two other pre-season games for the German club.

Had Leeds avoided relegation and Aaronson stayed, the club would have looked for him to work on his physical conditioning before the start of next season. Aaronson is extremely fit, with good levels of stamina, but the English top flight found him too easy to bully; a robust division in which his lack of strength was apparent.




49ers Enterprises plan to redevelop 'decaying' ER

The Daily Mail are suggesting that 49ers Enterprises are planning on a £200m redevelopment plan of Elland Road, extending its capacity from 36,000 to 55,000. The right-wing tabloid, who describe our spiritual home as 'decaying' believe Leeds can bridge the gap between the income currently generated at LS11, compared to that from the likes of Spurs. The North London, outfit built a brand new state of the art Stadium four years ago, which generates £5m every match day, five time more than Leeds. It's a lot of money to spend. Surely, they'd be better off building a new stadium?

The Americans quickly got to work. Aside from promotion, the priority is Elland Road. Currently, Leeds bank £1m each matchday at their decaying home. That puts them £4m behind Tottenham. It should not be like this. Love them or hate them - and many do - facts are facts. Leeds has 24,000 season ticket holders. There are 20,000 more on a waiting list. Plans are being drawn up to increase capacity to 55,000 with a raft of new corporate hospitality offerings in revamped east and north stands. That gap to Spurs will be bridged."

Much-needed redevelopment, which was effectively on hold under Radrizzani, is, all of a sudden, gathering pace. Planning consultants have started work. Designs have been drawn up. Costs have been estimated at £200m. The money is there, as is the expertise.

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There’s a fine line between increasing the stadium’s capacity whilst at the same time retaining the unique intense and intimidating atmosphere that the current Elland Road is famous for. Redevelopment is long overdue of course, but whatever happens, very careful consideration must be given to solving this conundrum and getting the balance right.
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Anonymous wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 am Tired out after a long squawk.
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Morning all.
Be glad if we get Darlo and even more gladder if we offload Mes for £30million or so.

I asked the same question last season "where are our goals coming from" obviously those in charge of the club knew f-all about running a club, just hope Farke has a striker in mind because I don't care what anyone says about bamford, he just isn't good enough.

About time the redevelopment went ahead, but, when will it be, certainly not this and more than likely not next season either, all pie in t' stuff as usual, I'll really start believing when I see it happenng.
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If your looking long term and If the 49ers have the cash then they should start redevelopment ASAP, it’s not money that is included in FFP so it dosnt really matter if we are in the prem or not - it’s ok saying look at spurs but that’s a billion pound stadium
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Re the stadium - if you read the full DM article it suggests they dismissed a new, dome type stadium proposed by USA architects as would lose the Elland Road atmosphere. They want to protect the atmosphere and get even more of it (by adding to Elland Road). That suggest adding to what we already have rather than a total rebuild.

They also suggest £200m redevelopment cost. If that adds 20000 extra seats then pay back will be around 10 years. Not bad for that type of investment.
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Byebyegeegee wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:03 am There’s a fine line between increasing the stadium’s capacity whilst at the same time retaining the unique intense and intimidating atmosphere that the current Elland Road is famous for. Redevelopment is long overdue of course, but whatever happens, very careful consideration must be given to solving this conundrum and getting the balance right.
I know mine isn’t a universally accepted opinion, but I reckon the ER atmosphere has the potential to destroy some of our own players sometimes. I cite one Patrick Bamford.
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I'm Ok with Darlow coming in. Would have preferred we kept a hold of Meslier as he's potentially a star keeper. Despite the inconsistencies we've seen lots of quality from him. I hope, I hope, I hope we get a good price for him if he goes.

Aaronson as an 8? He never played as an 8. He was always a 10 or a right winger. I wanted to see him as an 8 all last season because I think he had tremendous athleticism to play that role.

Improve the stadium - yes please

And goals? Are we still looking for a striker? Parag talked big in his first official interview. But there hasn't been a lot of solid talk since then. Lots of rumours. But nothing that really sounds like it's happening.
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Orange Box wrote: I know mine isn’t a universally accepted opinion, but I reckon the ER atmosphere has the potential to destroy some of our own players sometimes. I cite one Patrick Bamford.
Agree there OB. The results over the past 18/24 months suggests it's not the opposition who are intimidated, I think that went out the window years ago .

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I prefer the upgrade on ER rather than a new soulless stadium. ER is perfectly situated with enter/exit roundabouts from the M621 at each end of the stadium. Easy to get to and lots of great memories for me.
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I'm feeling a bit more optimistic for some reason, dunno why, perhaps it's glass half full time who knows.

A bit of it is waiting to see the team he goes with and whether they can pull off this possession based stuff, i think that's a massive part of where our fortunes this coming season lie, and the jury is still well out for me till i see us play and what he goes with, players and formation.

I wanna see this Rutter play and am hoping he can find somewhere where he could shine.

I want us to get Darlow for sure.

Brendens gone for now and so has Bert, but i feel out of all the tosh Clown A brought, Brenden would've interested me the most in Berts hands, shame that.

I suppose i'm v apprehensively looking forward to Cardiff, hopefully glass half full, but scared it soon could be emptied with a dire display.

Bring it on.

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What about a new training ground? We can never buy Thorpe Arch back, thanks to Master Bates, and it's owned by a property developer, who'll be getting itchy fingers soon. We need our own training facilities.
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Whites set to wrap up Darlow deal.

We will only know if he is any good once he stands infront of the North stand with a full house. His record is not that impressive but i guess that's why he's coming to Leeds.

Where will Leeds goals come from this season?

I agree Bamford's not agile enough any more. Lets be positive and say Gnonto, Joseph, Rutter, James, Jimmy will get a sack full. Confidence is a marvelous emotion it can work wonders.

Where did things go wrong with Arronson.

He was sh*t to start with. He was a chicken without a head in a team of headless chickens.

49ers Enterprises plan to redevelop 'decaying' ER.

As long as they add a cinema, casino & crazy golf into their plans i'm in.
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SG90 wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:35 pm What about a new training ground? We can never buy Thorpe Arch back, thanks to Master Bates, and it's owned by a property developer, who'll be getting itchy fingers soon. We need our own training facilities.
Fullerton park , United and Ipswich were the only 2 grounds in old division 1 to have their respective training pitches adjacent to the stadiums, don't know who owns the car parks next to ground now, parking around the ground and restructuring could present a problem.
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'As long as they add a cinema, casino & crazy golf into their plans i'm in.'

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Whats the latest on Gustavo Hamer and the fella from forest, the striker !!
Hamer would be a good buy imho, a strong creative player we haven't had for yonks.
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Very interesting that the only decent player Burnley sent out on loan last season was Weghorst, and they received around £2.5m for it. The rest of their loans were kids, or other players who were not making the grade. You can tell this by the sort kind of clubs they are going to.

They also sold 4 players for a total of €70m. Tarkowski and Mee were out of contract.
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mentalcase wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:01 pm Whats the latest on Gustavo Hamer and the fella from forest, the striker !!
Hamer would be a good buy imho, a strong creative player we haven't had for yonks.
Hamer would be a great signing, but several top flight clubs are after him, and it's not like Leeds are showing any ambition!

We've been linked with two Forest players. Sam Surridge has just signed for Nashville for £5m, and Emmanuel Dennis rumours have gone a bit quiet.
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