BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:36 pm
We are not a retirement home for washed up footballers. We can do better than Shelvey...
Not the time for projects unfortuantely Paul. We need a mix and the likes of this guy would help balance the squad.
A gamechanger
' "Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
weasel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:34 pm
I think many fans would have described Strachan and Pablo as washedup footballers prior to them signing for us. Likely back when 64 was a spritely young pensioner they were saying the same thing about Bobby Collins.
Just to be clear on this Weasel. It's not about the player's age. Pablo had plenty of gas left in the tank. It's just about his trajectory. Shelvey has not looked good in a long time. His legs are gone.
Irish Ian wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:55 pm
Not the time for projects unfortuantely Paul. We need a mix and the likes of this guy would help balance the squad.
A gamechanger
I understand you point of view Ian. I just disagree with regard to Shelvey. Cheers!
BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:36 pm
We are not a retirement home for washed up footballers. We can do better than Shelvey...
Only we are, bamford, cooper and forshaw off top of my swede, not to mention those who are much younger that never made it, shelvey has the experience and could be a cracking addition in Farkes plans.
" Man is not affected by events but by the view he takes of them "
mentalcase wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:32 pm
Only we are, bamford, cooper and forshaw off top of my swede, not to mention those who are much younger that never made it, shelvey has the experience and could be a cracking addition in Farkes plans.
Ayling's another mate.
Shelvey ain't the best on the planet, he's slow, but he can run play, has good passing ability, can shoot and score and take set pieces.
With runners and fit lads around him he's more than good enough for this level. We could do a lot worse imo.
mentalcase wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:56 pm
Aye but Luke has another season in him and isn't as injury prone as the other lot
He's not injury prone mate and wears his heart on his sleeve for us.
But nowhere near good enough.
He should have been put out to grass years ago, got rinsed every week last season. Defensive liability, I'd rather play Drameh, or Byram at right back.
White Riot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:20 pm
He's not injury prone mate and wears his heart on his sleeve for us.
But nowhere near good enough.
He should have been put out to grass years ago, got rinsed every week last season. Defensive liability, I'd rather play Drameh, or Byram at right back.
The bar is so low for us it's not funny.
Yea we really need to give drameh a try, maybe he's lazy in training !!
" Man is not affected by events but by the view he takes of them "
BlackHillsPaul wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:16 pm
Just to be clear on this Weasel. It's not about the player's age. Pablo had plenty of gas left in the tank. It's just about his trajectory. Shelvey has not looked good in a long time. His legs are gone.
He was a rapid winger but the player we got was one that had had to adapt as he'd lost his pace. In his first or second season here lots of fans on here felt he couldn't play 2 games a week and advocated dropping him in away games.
I haven't seen Shelvey much in the last couple of years. He has always seemed to do well against us, 2 seasons back scoring the winner for NEwcastle against us and then last season for Forest pinging the ball around as Forest went long against us.
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm
I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:03 pm
Did you post them because there's something wrong with your brain
This concept of writing players off after they top 30 is so Football Manager it is hard to believe
' "Football is about the people and the players,” he said. “Then there are those who will mingle in the middle: the coaches, executives and journalists. That last group represents the worst part about football" Marcelo Bielsa
I think Shelvey and Gray could work in an attacking midfield role. Gray slightly more advanced picking up the passes from Shelvey and pushing the team forward.
DDB220 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:09 pm
First time I have noticed this thread.
Shelvey linked - Some pace in midfield will be very handy plus he is pretty tidy on the ball.
(Casts the hook)
CODswallop
I declare my love for Saint Daniel and I can shoehorn him in to any conversation.
This is the type of signing that i don't want us to make, just does zero for me.
What wages would he expect.
If he was announced today, it wouldn't reet bother me, but it doesn't at all float my boat, i'd look at it like - He might work out for a year getting us up there challenging if he gives 100%.
Not dependent on Google, the www or 'stats' - Just a guy that puts his eyes to full use on the beautiful game ...That Ayling goal and "You couldn't script it " - Dirty Leeds B@stard.
Must dash.
;@)
He’s a good competitor and I never liked us playing against him. He always seemed to make stuff happen for the opposition.
Would be nice to have that on our team. Depends on fee and wages. He could be the key that helps the whole come together this season.
Thinking beyond this (and maybe a second) season in the championship is a luxury and we’ve already got enough projects. He can impact now. I’d say get him.
Kennyb41 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:35 am
This is the type of signing that i don't want us to make, just does zero for me.
What wages would he expect.
If he was announced today, it wouldn't reet bother me, but it doesn't at all float my boat, i'd look at it like - He might work out for a year getting us up there challenging if he gives 100%.
That’s what we want for me, whatever happens once we get promoted we can sort then.
Don’t cry because you said goodbye to your pet, smile because you said hello
Barlow Boy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:29 am
That’s what we want for me, whatever happens once we get promoted we can sort then.
That's my thinking.
We know virtually none of these are good enough now for the Prem, but 1 job at a time suppose and regroup.
Not dependent on Google, the www or 'stats' - Just a guy that puts his eyes to full use on the beautiful game ...That Ayling goal and "You couldn't script it " - Dirty Leeds B@stard.
Must dash.
;@)
...That Ayling goal and "You couldn't script it 
" - Dirty Leeds B@stard.
