Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:14 pm
It also changes a bit if Sini & Gnonto take a leaf out of Piroe's book and play until completion. We don't know how much of the £3million we made on Adams is actually profit. Tbf to the new owners they have had seriously slim picking on transfers fees. They can thank Orta for that.
Gnonto and sinisterra will be only be short term unless we go up this season , they will go and will be more cash in the kitty
The 49ers came in a blaze if glory but have not spent anything yet , without selling first that's the point I am making
All the players who have gone out on loan most will leave on reduced fees from what was spent by orta and radrizaani but it will still be money in the bank for them
The amount of players we need to the numbers who have gone is nowhere near enough, especially when Injuries kick in
geronimo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:41 pm
Gnonto and sinisterra will be only be short term unless we go up this season , they will go and will be more cash in the kitty
The 49ers came in a blaze if glory but have not spent anything yet , without selling first that's the point I am making
All the players who have gone out on loan most will leave on reduced fees from what was spent by orta and radrizaani but it will still be money in the bank for them
The amount of players we need to the numbers who have gone is nowhere near enough, especially when Injuries kick in
I have no idea how it all adds up. There's no doubt they will go willy and sini in that situation but they need to be playing first to achieve their dreams. The 49ers as i see it have only gained around £6m in transfer fees and who knows how much of Rodrigo's fee was left to pay. I'm sure i am wrong but they may have bought a second hand car only to find its in need of serious repair. In saying that they have splashed around £20m of the reported £30m they have available.
Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:01 pm
I have no idea how it all adds up. There's no doubt they will go willy and sini in that situation but they need to be playing first to achieve their dreams. The 49ers as i see it have only gained around £6m in transfer fees and who knows how much of Rodrigo's fee was left to pay. I'm sure i am wrong but they may have bought a second hand car only to find its in need of serious repair. In saying that they have splashed around £20m of the reported £30m they have available.
Exactly so the 49ers ain't the dream team who will spend the required money to fire Leeds straight back up , they are relying on player sales before they spend
They have inherited a car crash of a club and they ain't got the wonga to bail us out
We are simply looking at a long drawn out process again that could take years to fix
geronimo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:11 pm
Exactly so the 49ers ain't the dream team who will spend the required money to fire Leeds straight back up , they are relying on player sales before they spend
They have inherited a car crash of a club and they ain't got the wonga to bail us out
We are simply looking at a long drawn out process again that could take years to fix
I thought i'd just said they have spent around £20m of their own money. Probably more than any other championship side. Personally i can see we are moving in the right direction but granted all the mess with the clauses and whatever FFP means may have put us back a year.
Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:16 pm
I thought i'd just said they have spent around £20m of their own money. Probably more than any other championship side. Personally i can see we are moving in the right direction but granted all the mess with the clauses and whatever FFP means may have put us back a year.
No point trying to explain FFP to Geronimo. You may as well try and teach a cat to play the violin.
Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:16 pm
I thought i'd just said they have spent around £20m of their own money. Probably more than any other championship side. Personally i can see we are moving in the right direction but granted all the mess with the clauses and whatever FFP means may have put us back a year.
They ain't spent any of their own money they have received 3 million for Rodrigo and 23 million for Adams total 26 million
They have spent. 12 million on piroe , 8 million on ampadu , 400 grand on darliow Byram was a free transfer , and rodon is on loan
Total 20 ,400 so they are nearly 6 million quid up so far
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Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:16 pm
I thought i'd just said they have spent around £20m of their own money. Probably more than any other championship side. Personally i can see we are moving in the right direction but granted all the mess with the clauses and whatever FFP means may have put us back a year.
We are definitely moving in the right direction, DDB
geronimo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:36 am
They ain't spent any of their own money they have received 3 million for Rodrigo and 23 million for Adams total 26 million
They have spent. 12 million on piroe , 8 million on ampadu , 400 grand on darliow Byram was a free transfer , and rodon is on loan
Total 20 ,400 so they are nearly 6 million quid up so far
That's presuming there are no payments left on the Rodrigo & Adams deals from our end. We know Rodrigo has been an expensive mistake so getting £3m back in for him is hardly profit. I can't imagine the last regime bought Adams outright but they may have done so we make around £3m profit in the year on him.
Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:47 am
That's presuming there are no payments left on the Rodrigo & Adams deals from our end. We know Rodrigo has been an expensive mistake so getting £3m back in for him is hardly profit. I can't imagine the last regime bought Adams outright but they may have done so we make around £3m profit in the year on him.
They are the transfer fees they will receive whether it is straight away or over a period of time in instalments, so we ain't gone over what we have received so far we need far more players in to reinforce the ones who have left , the strength in depth is non existent, and the lack of quality is negligible, especially when sinisterra and gnonto eventually go, to keep our best players, means getting promotion this season , which is a big ask ,with this current squad
Cumbriarents wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:07 am
Does anybody pay outright for players? I'm sure I read the other year in an article that nobody does, it's all over the four or five year contracts.
Chelsea paying 10m a year over eight years for Mudryk and other deals on a similar basis just so they can fit ffp rules and it’s quite risky.
Think we’ve done similar on some of ours.
Cumbriarents wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:07 am
Does anybody pay outright for players? I'm sure I read the other year in an article that nobody does, it's all over the four or five year contracts.
I know but the fees remain the same , just over a longer period of time , and the owners will have budgeted for this, it's not like we have gone out and spent a packet bringing a load of new players in to replace the ones who have already gone
Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:47 am
That's presuming there are no payments left on the Rodrigo & Adams deals from our end. We know Rodrigo has been an expensive mistake so getting £3m back in for him is hardly profit. I can't imagine the last regime bought Adams outright but they may have done so we make around £3m profit in the year on him.
You couldn't make it up could you, we are being given financial advice from someone who hails Everton as the role model for us to follow!!!!
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm
I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:03 pm
Did you post them because there's something wrong with your brain
weasel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:54 am
You couldn't make it up could you, we are being given financial advice from someone who hails Everton as the role model for us to follow!!!!
Apparently the 49er's came here in a 'blaze of glory' did i miss summert whilst shoppin ?
Not dependent on Google, the www or 'stats' - Just a guy that puts his eyes to full use on the beautiful game ...That Ayling goal and "You couldn't script it " - Dirty Leeds B@stard.
Must dash.
;@)
geronimo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:36 am
They ain't spent any of their own money they have received 3 million for Rodrigo and 23 million for Adams total 26 million
They have spent. 12 million on piroe , 8 million on ampadu , 400 grand on darliow Byram was a free transfer , and rodon is on loan
Total 20 ,400 so they are nearly 6 million quid up so far
How do you know they haven't spent any of their own money ? Are you privy to their financial records ?
Perhaps, and this is right out on the limits of rational thought, the 49ers know what they are doing and don’t just want to splurge money left right & centre to appease the fans. And if they were I dare say Geronimo would be calling them out as reckless.
Of course Everton’s buying & scouting model is beyond criticism.
I declare my love for Saint Daniel and I can shoehorn him in to any conversation.
Jaydog wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:46 am
Perhaps, and this is right out on the limits of rational thought, the 49ers know what they are doing and don’t just want to splurge money left right & centre to appease the fans. And if they were I dare say Geronimo would be calling them out as reckless.
Of course Everton’s buying & scouting model is beyond criticism.
I am basing the spending on incomings and outgoings, if this club want promotion then big investment is needed , we won't go up with this squad as it currently stands, again Everton are not my team they have their own problems , but they are not having to rebuild virtually a new squad stuck in n the championship are they ?
So what your saying is you DONT KNOW if they have spent any of their own money yet, and that it may or may not have come from incomings and outgoings.
Why do you state these things " They ain't spent any of their own money " when your not certain about it ?
...That Ayling goal and "You couldn't script it 
" - Dirty Leeds B@stard.
