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Farke's here - latest team news
Junior is training individually. Hope he can return as soon as possible. Good news with Bamford. Yesterday was his first time back in team training. Good news. Major boost


Bamford this week?
Once you are back in team training you are technically available, but we have to remember he has been out for eight weeks. DEfinitely not tomorrow. We have to be careful


Ampadu
Got a knock. Always question marks with a quick turnaround, but ti does not look too bad. Improved a lot in 24 hours. He is Welsh and he should be tough because he's Welsh


Reluctant to change?
Lots of quality and players pushing. Not too concerned about this. Complete picture because players came back from internationals with lots of travelling and lots of minutes. Three games in six days and I am not a friend of rotation too much. Always thinking about two or three positions, but definitely not all 11 positions.


Similarities to Norwich?
Too early to judged after three weeks. In general, on a good path. Two clean sheets, four unbeaten and seven points after two difficult away games with wins at Ipswich and Millwall. Unity and togetherness among the players and staff. We are on a good path but we have to stay aware we do not lose this unity and togetherness. One of my tasks to work on it. We keep going and you just can be successful when you have good spirit within the group and also the staff.



Team of the moment
No, I just wanted to point out before the game the necessity to pick up points, but after the game you feel you are flying. Just pointing out I am never too over the moon or too down.

Have to stay level and focused on hard work. Don't want us to lose momentum. I like the players have easier moments in comparison to a few weeks ago. They are allowed to keep going like this.

Hull like other away games?
Different to Millwall because of how they play. I rate the work of Liam Rosenior very much. Man management and in general a good possession side that asks questions. Against the ball we have to be strong and make sure our quality with the ball shines. Tough place. Complicated like every game, but have to be ready and be successful.


Meslier and Struijk - did you see hangover in confidence?
Quite normal after relegation there is hangover and not everyone has confidence. Dealt with a lot of criticism, which is deserved after relegation. Take it on the chin. One solution: hard work. Gain fitness, make sure you gain confidence with hard work in training. Many, many discussions and spoke about many things, but not with psychological games. Be honest with them, brutally. Give them trust and backing. Still young players. In normal life, they are only just out of their teenage years. They are now role models, but still developing their personalities.


Crowd relationship
If I am honest I do not think about it too much, I just work as hard as I can for this club. I always see myself as a club coach. I have to be there with 100 per cent identification for the club, if not I would not take on such a task.

My appreciation for such a great club with unbelievable support, I want to do my best to make them proud again. Our fans need to have a great relationship with our players because they are younger than me and they need that backing. I am older and can handle more difficult moments.

The bond between fans and players is most imp[ortant If they urge me to do the wave after a game I do this and they get what they want because they are priceless. More important than any player, coach or sporting director. If they value what we do I like it even more.

If we have good spirit and good mood within the club and withing the group, including the fans, it's always a better chance to be successful. They are already top class. We as a group have to work to be on the top level too



Slow start with Norwich - when does it feel important to have momentum?
The key at Norwich, twice, was we never looked or obsessed over the table. Not scared of it and we were able to discuss it, but we never obsessed over it. The table took care of itself. We just focused on performances. On an unbelievable run with them, club records, great feeling, but the secret was not speaking too much about ambitions or where we want to be. Only concentrating on where we want to be in two or three days.

Nobody started to play football wondering about the table, TV money, next season, no no, we want to go out andit's us against the others. We want to win games.
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whiteswan wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:18 pm Thanks Cjay
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I like that comment about Rosenior.

Shows me he's on the ball, knowing other clubs best players and perhaps spotting future buys for us from other clubs, it's the way to go, every club has their fans favourite and the player they'd least like to lose.

I hope everyone feels the relief i do that our ex clown isn't buying for him.

When i say ex clown i mean ex Leeds, he'll always be a feckin clown.

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Kennyb41 wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:44 pm I like that comment about Rosenior.

Shows me he's on the ball, knowing other clubs best players and perhaps spotting future buys for us from other clubs, it's the way to go, every club has their fans favourite and the player they'd least like to lose.

I hope everyone feels the relief i do that our ex clown isn't buying for him.

When i say ex clown i mean ex Leeds, he'll always be a feckin clown.

ALWAYS.
Glad you clarified how you really felt, Kenny :lol:

But seriously, DF is clearly a student of the game. That should be a no-brainer in a manager, but when juxtaposed against our recent managers it becomes glaringly obvious that Farke puts in the work to make the best decisions possible and, perhaps more importantly, get the very best out of the players at his disposal.
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Cjay wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:16 pm Farke's here - latest team news
Junior is training individually. Hope he can return as soon as possible. Good news with Bamford. Yesterday was his first time back in team training. Good news. Major boost


Bamford this week?
Once you are back in team training you are technically available, but we have to remember he has been out for eight weeks. DEfinitely not tomorrow. We have to be careful


Ampadu
Got a knock. Always question marks with a quick turnaround, but ti does not look too bad. Improved a lot in 24 hours. He is Welsh and he should be tough because he's Welsh


Reluctant to change?
Lots of quality and players pushing. Not too concerned about this. Complete picture because players came back from internationals with lots of travelling and lots of minutes. Three games in six days and I am not a friend of rotation too much. Always thinking about two or three positions, but definitely not all 11 positions.


Similarities to Norwich?
Too early to judged after three weeks. In general, on a good path. Two clean sheets, four unbeaten and seven points after two difficult away games with wins at Ipswich and Millwall. Unity and togetherness among the players and staff. We are on a good path but we have to stay aware we do not lose this unity and togetherness. One of my tasks to work on it. We keep going and you just can be successful when you have good spirit within the group and also the staff.



Team of the moment
No, I just wanted to point out before the game the necessity to pick up points, but after the game you feel you are flying. Just pointing out I am never too over the moon or too down.

Have to stay level and focused on hard work. Don't want us to lose momentum. I like the players have easier moments in comparison to a few weeks ago. They are allowed to keep going like this.

Hull like other away games?
Different to Millwall because of how they play. I rate the work of Liam Rosenior very much. Man management and in general a good possession side that asks questions. Against the ball we have to be strong and make sure our quality with the ball shines. Tough place. Complicated like every game, but have to be ready and be successful.


Meslier and Struijk - did you see hangover in confidence?
Quite normal after relegation there is hangover and not everyone has confidence. Dealt with a lot of criticism, which is deserved after relegation. Take it on the chin. One solution: hard work. Gain fitness, make sure you gain confidence with hard work in training. Many, many discussions and spoke about many things, but not with psychological games. Be honest with them, brutally. Give them trust and backing. Still young players. In normal life, they are only just out of their teenage years. They are now role models, but still developing their personalities.


Crowd relationship
If I am honest I do not think about it too much, I just work as hard as I can for this club. I always see myself as a club coach. I have to be there with 100 per cent identification for the club, if not I would not take on such a task.

My appreciation for such a great club with unbelievable support, I want to do my best to make them proud again. Our fans need to have a great relationship with our players because they are younger than me and they need that backing. I am older and can handle more difficult moments.

The bond between fans and players is most imp[ortant If they urge me to do the wave after a game I do this and they get what they want because they are priceless. More important than any player, coach or sporting director. If they value what we do I like it even more.

If we have good spirit and good mood within the club and withing the group, including the fans, it's always a better chance to be successful. They are already top class. We as a group have to work to be on the top level too



Slow start with Norwich - when does it feel important to have momentum?
The key at Norwich, twice, was we never looked or obsessed over the table. Not scared of it and we were able to discuss it, but we never obsessed over it. The table took care of itself. We just focused on performances. On an unbelievable run with them, club records, great feeling, but the secret was not speaking too much about ambitions or where we want to be. Only concentrating on where we want to be in two or three days.

Nobody started to play football wondering about the table, TV money, next season, no no, we want to go out andit's us against the others. We want to win games.
Thanks for posting the transcript cjay.
I like his philosophy of not getting too high in the good times and not getting too low when things turn bad. He's referred to this a few times in his press conferences.
He's pragmatic and doesn't complain.
I sense though that he's a manager who knows what he wants and I'm willing to bet he's pretty direct with the board about that.

I just hope we as fans have some patience during the bad days - and there will be bad days. As he says The Championship is relentless.
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Key game tonight, win tonight Leeds break in to the top six , these are games where we need to string a few wins together, no point getting a good result one week, then dropping points the following week
Certainly don't want the top two or three to extend the points gap at the top of the table
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Farke's here - good point?

Definitely, yes, If you had offered me a point on the road before the game, after Millwall and Hull's good start to the season, as well as a clean sheet, I would not have taken it, but admitted it would be a good result.

Divided post-match. After 65 minutes it was when and not if we would score. Two times Summerville shot well with good saves. Rutter one vs one. Corner kick, nearly two handbells. Shooting after this with Piroe. Lots of chances. Sometimes you have to accept the goalkeeper was outstanding.

Football. Small situation changes matches. Then you cannot press as high anymore. Opponent gets more confident and braver. Sit deeper. Not there with possession anymore and you have to dug in. Even in this period we had the better chance with Rutter. Monster chance for Traore off the post.

In these circumstances, a good point. Good mentality and performance from the lads to dig in and bring this home


Rodon
He is feeling unfortunate the first yellow came. Tactical fouls on Summerville sum up how poor the yellows were tonight. First one was not even a foul, let alone a yellow. If you are booked, you have to be smarter, go smarter in the duels. Situation changes the game



Defending and clean sheet
Very pleased. During the last 30 plus added time, it was the second difficult away trip in three days. Did not allow them one chance before the 89th shot off the post. We are looking rock solid against a good football side who created so many chances in their last games. We were committed against the ball. Only criticism is our efficiency.



Gnonto
Knock on his foot and rolled his ankle. We have to wait for assessment.



Summerville
Perfect reaction to being left out. Difficult pre-season, knock on his shoulder, some issues. Made sense three games in six days should have him on the bench. Had to bring him in earlier than I wanted, but his reaction was excellent. On and off the ball. Worked so hard for the team.
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So positives are we have only lost 1.
We have 3 clean sheets in a row.
We are not far from the playoffs and have played well most of the time.

But wins need to come soon, in 18/19 Norwich had less points at this stage but went on to win 11 of 15 only losing once (top of the table us,had 4 less points than Preston though).

In 20/21 Norwich had 13 points, Reading had 19 same as Preston.

I think overall Farke has done ok, not bad, not great, ok.

Some things he does I'm not convinced by.

Piroe in that 10 still seems off but taking your top scorer off when needing a goal is,odd
Ayling over Shacks or Byram (all be it we know Spence will start).
Picking Cooper over Cresswell to replace Rodon bugged me.
Needs to start rotating the midfield 2, Gray especially can't be expected to play this much (looked tired yesterday )

It's been a hard start for him, tactics seem to be coming together, cautiously optimistic but nagging doubts like those above.
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He had to pick Coop as Charlie wasn't on the bench... My guess as club captain (and I think Farke would like a Cooper/Rodon central defence) Coop got the nod for the bench and not Cresswell.
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Cjay wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:37 am So positives are we have only lost 1.
We have 3 clean sheets in a row.
We are not far from the playoffs and have played well most of the time.

But wins need to come soon, in 18/19 Norwich had less points at this stage but went on to win 11 of 15 only losing once (top of the table us,had 4 less points than Preston though).

In 20/21 Norwich had 13 points, Reading had 19 same as Preston.

I think overall Farke has done ok, not bad, not great, ok.

Some things he does I'm not convinced by.

Piroe in that 10 still seems off but taking your top scorer off when needing a goal is,odd
Ayling over Shacks or Byram (all be it we know Spence will start).
Picking Cooper over Cresswell to replace Rodon bugged me.
Needs to start rotating the midfield 2, Gray especially can't be expected to play this much (looked tired yesterday )


It's been a hard start for him, tactics seem to be coming together, cautiously optimistic but nagging doubts like those above.
I wouldn't be getting your keks in a twist after a game where we went to 10 men and alterations had to be made.

Not that i can read DF's mind, but :

Maybe he thought Rutter is the faster player and would put himself about a bit more than Piroe when left on his own after going down to 10?

Byram came back from injury last week and two games in quick succession might injure him again then you'd be going up the wall ?

He doesn't have any faith in CC and after going down to 10 men LC is A. More experienced B. The Captain C. More suited to our style of play ?

And wouldn't you be going nuts if he started rotating players that hardly know each other and it backfired, wouldn't it then be "ffs ! Archie and Ampadu have been our engine, never have put a foot wrong, looking like the Championship best pairing of the season contenders, wtf is he doing dropping one of them !!!"

Not having a dig but, well, you did ask.

We went down to 10 men, it unbalanced us everywhere, i was pissed off we had to defend coz we all know it's our weakness, but to comment on our play when down to 10 men is irrelevant to me apart from we held onto a point, coz we'll be starting with 11 v Watford.
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I personally think he's done very well considering the state of play left by the other side of our previous departing ownership.
All those dodgy dealings with a lot of those previous players who chose to jump ship just before the new season started. Working with a threadbare team He's also done well to get the youngsters interested and playing to be in the starting 11...Archie Gray for example, DF's confidence building looks good too!!. Proper man management type who's getting the lads to gel.It's early days but the lads do seem to be getting on together and battling! At least we are laying the foundations right this time with basically a new team! If we get this bit right then maybe this time with a little time and support for our new manager and good ownership we might just get our promotion again and stick it out longer in the premier league where we belong. :soccer: :soccer: :cup :cup
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Ben Scooby lufc wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:41 pm I personally think he's done very well considering the state of play left by the other side of our previous departing ownership.
All those dodgy dealings with a lot of those previous players who chose to jump ship just before the new season started. Working with a threadbare team He's also done well to get the youngsters interested and playing to be in the starting 11...Archie Gray for example, DF's confidence building looks good too!!. Proper man management type who's getting the lads to gel.It's early days but the lads do seem to be getting on together and battling! At least we are laying the foundations right this time with basically a new team! If we get this bit right then maybe this time with a little time and support for our new manager and good ownership we might just get our promotion again and stick it out longer in the premier league where we belong. :soccer: :soccer: :cup :cup
I agree Scooby. He came into an absolute shambles - not just squad-wise, but in every single aspect of the organization. He'd been preceded by 3 poor managers (Marsh the real culprit for the damage to the culture and bringing in high ego players).
I don't think we can over-emphasise just how broken Leeds United was last season (rot started before that of course).

Frankly I think he's done wonders to clearly get the squad on his side, seems to be educating the administrators and we are now starting to get a more cohesive and resilient style of play that will get us promoted.

He came in a month before the season started. Virtually every club above us right now, had a "normal" pre-season. Farke didn't. After only 7 games, we are a completely different side - defensively and in attack. Its not there yet - obviously - how could it be. But the progress has been remarkable.

I honestly believe this team right now would not have got relegated last season. Just my opinion.

Lets stop trying to separate the flyshit from the pepper and see the bigger picture.
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malcolmw wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:32 pm I agree Scooby. He came into an absolute shambles - not just squad-wise, but in every single aspect of the organization. He'd been preceded by 3 poor managers (Marsh the real culprit for the damage to the culture and bringing in high ego players).
I don't think we can over-emphasise just how broken Leeds United was last season (rot started before that of course).

Frankly I think he's done wonders to clearly get the squad on his side, seems to be educating the administrators and we are now starting to get a more cohesive and resilient style of play that will get us promoted.

He came in a month before the season started. Virtually every club above us right now, had a "normal" pre-season. Farke didn't. After only 7 games, we are a completely different side - defensively and in attack. Its not there yet - obviously - how could it be. But the progress has been remarkable.

I honestly believe this team right now would not have got relegated last season. Just my opinion.

Lets stop trying to separate the flyshit from the pepper and see the bigger picture.
Given the work DF had to do, and is still doing, and given the context you outlined above, Malcolm, it really is all about perspective. When you combine this with the steady progress the team, and organization, seem to making week in and week out, I'd say he's worked wonders too. Can't wait to see where we end up based on DF's leadership and the current trajectory.
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Dallas is back
First of all I'm delighted for him. It's been a long road for him. He was involved in team training yesterday. The group were waiting otuside to give him a welcome. Not just on the pitch but off the pitch, he's important. I like to talk to him. He is a legend here because he's done so much for this club. He's been out such a long time. We have a rule that you have to be in training as long as you are out but I hope it won't be that long.

Defensive questions - is a left footed Cooper the answer?
The most important topic is the quality of the players. Sometimes it helps with the angle to build out from the back when you don't have two left footers. It's not a problem

News on Gnonto?
Sadly bad news with him. He has done his lateral ankle ligament. He won't be available

News on Ampadu
At Millwall he had a knock but now it's better. I'm not worried, he's in good shape.


Is there more pressure this weekend?
Each and every game day is pressure. We want to be successful but I'm pretty happy and I could do with a home win.

I'm quite sure Elland Road will be a fortress. We haven't lost at home and performance wise we have been dominant. Watford are traditionally a good counter attack side. It suits them to play on the road and they like to play in a deeper position. I'm very respectful. There's quality all over the pitch and we have to be at our top level.


You know Ismael well?
There's no dark secrets. We did our education in Germany together. It was a good time with him. We've met in the Championship a few times. He's a good guy and a very experienced player. He played for Bayern but I played once against him in a friendly. He's a really good coach and always happy when I see him


Do you need to manage Ampadu?
I always have a eye on each of my players and when they need a rest I will do this. Ethan has good endurance and ability to recover. We are careful with sports science and if something shows up we won't take risk. He is in a good rhythm and had a good pre-season, it's easier for him to handle the load than say Sam Byram. We will be careful but he should be alright


How influential is Ayling
Luke's influence is massive. You can't overrate it because it's so important. He's a good player but he leads in the dressing room. He calms the lads down, sometimes an arm around the shoulder, sometimes a kick. We need this, we have young players but we need experienced players. I love his mentality and he brings it into the dressing room. I had an argument with the fourth official because it was quicker to bring him off direct rather than let him run around the stadium and he got a yellow card. It made no sense. We can't argue, we have to accept this. Luke, I love his emotions but it's important it's not over the line

Do you keep an eye on the loan players?
Yes of course but I don't have enough eyes. If i had both eyes on loan players I wouldn't be able to do my job. We have members of staff to look after them. I think it's important for me to watch many games.


How do you crack a low block?
We will see. I expect Watford to press higher because it's in their nature and play aggressive. But I'm sure many teams will park the bus. The best solution is to score the first goal because then they open up. We need to be patient and play not how they want us to with crosses and long balls. When we find a way to get the lead earlier it helps, that's what we showed at Millwall and at times against Ipswich. It helps. It's our task to find solutions and it;'s one of the most difficult tasks in footbal


More on the low block
My attitude is its the difference between the top teams and the good teams. It's the teams who can open up compact opponents and find ways to do this. I'm working on this topic. It's relatively easy and trivial to be compact., to find solutions and gaps and creativity to open them up, this is much more complicated



Will Bamford be available?
Not fully fit. He's just back in team training. We will still be careful with him. This week hasn't been the easiest in training with load. I thinknext week will be benficial. I expect him to be back in the mix and then he needs game time to find his best rhythm. He proved it during pre-season, he scored goals. The most important topic is that he's fit.
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What happens when we have Rutter, Piroe, Gelhardt and Bamfraud !!
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mentalcase wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:24 pm What happens when we have Rutter, Piroe, Gelhardt and Bamfraud !!
We have 4 forwards instead of 3.....simples :lol: :lol:
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mentalcase wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:24 pm What happens when we have Rutter, Piroe, Gelhardt and Bamfraud !!
Gelhardt will be buried on the bench. He may not even make the bench.

Joffy has talent. It's there in glimpses for everyone to see. But in my view he needs a complete change of scenery or he will be in League One soon. I think he should follow the example of Bradley Wright Phillips and make a move to MLS. It's a lateral move from the Championship in terms of standard. But it's a completely different style. I really think he would thrive in that league because it suits his game so much better. And without the crushing pressure that English football can apply to young players.
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:53 pm Gelhardt will be buried on the bench. He may not even make the bench.

Joffy has talent. It's there in glimpses for everyone to see. But in my view he needs a complete change of scenery or he will be in League One soon. I think he should follow the example of Bradley Wright Phillips and make a move to MLS. It's a lateral move from the Championship in terms of standard. But it's a completely different style. I really think he would thrive in that league because it suits his game so much better. And without the crushing pressure that English football can apply to young players.
Agree Paul, I see a few needing to leave to further their careers, although it isn't just LU, there are thousands that don't make it , every season teams have a clear out as youngsters can't bridge the gap.
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