Weston McKennie

[BlackHillsPaul]

I’m sure Paul and John, among others, could second this, but a common insult hurled at us American “soccer” fans from our fellow Americans is that we are “communists” because we like a “communist sport”. This is obviously born from those isolationists who view European nations to be more socialist than America. This despite the irony of the American professional sports leagues, by their closed market nature, are more closely aligned to socialism, and Football/soccer leagues in Europe being more open/free market-oriented. But as is common throughout this wonderful planet of ours, it’s often hard to confuse certain people with the facts.

I've heard that one dozens of times. But that one is actually mild compared to the more crass and profane insults.

[Kennyb41]

Glad to see him doing well, has some quality this lad...
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/weston ... 8ac2f1414d

[AcrossThePondAsh]

Glad to see him doing well, has some quality this lad...
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/weston ... 8ac2f1414d

That was a good read, KB. Thanks for sharing. I've always liked Wes and have been reading about his recent form with Juve. Tbf I think he came at a bad time here, wasn't used properly, and didn't have much of a chance to show his quality. I know fans hated him, and a lot was down to him, but there is a player there.

[Kennyb41]

That was a good read, KB. Thanks for sharing. I've always liked Wes and have been reading about his recent form with Juve. Tbf I think he came at a bad time here, wasn't used properly, and didn't have much of a chance to show his quality. I know fans hated him, and a lot was down to him, but there is a player there.

There was no hatred from me Ash, as you say, wrong place, wrong time, wrong manager/s, in fact probably all wrong for all concerned.

I'll be watching him next chance i get.

[The Subhuman]

That was a good read, KB. Thanks for sharing. I've always liked Wes and have been reading about his recent form with Juve. Tbf I think he came at a bad time here, wasn't used properly, and didn't have much of a chance to show his quality. I know fans hated him, and a lot was down to him, but there is a player there.

Good footballer tbf .... I don't think, apart from arriving a little unfit, he played badly for us...

[Kennyb41]

His attitude was s**t. He was unfit, he didn't want to be here, and he didn't try. It was the lack of effort from wasters like him that got us relegated, ultimately.

I'd agree he wasn't Prem fit.

[AcrossThePondAsh]

His attitude was s**t. He was unfit, he didn't want to be here, and he didn't try. It was the lack of effort from wasters like him that got us relegated, ultimately.

Sara - While fan opinions obviously vary on Wes, and I completely agree that his performance with us was sorely lacking, I'm trying to consider the broader context. Individual performances are influenced by various factors, including team dynamics, coaching, and personal circumstances. McKennie's contributions may have faced challenges, but I think it's crucial to acknowledge the complexity of a player's experience and our situation when he arrived. Criticizing solely based on attitude and effort might oversimplify the situation. Factors such as injuries, tactical adjustments, or personal issues can also play a role. I think evaluating a player's performance comprehensively provides a more balanced perspective. For instance, he's certainly performed well with the USMNT and is currently in very good form with Juventus. I agree his attitude was s**t (along with many others), and he was part of the reason for relegation. Just saying, he does have some quality.

[Jaydog]

He seemed a bit like DJed Spence to me. In a few months some people will be saying the same about him I suppose.

[AcrossThePondAsh]

I expect you're right, but I'm not really interested in what he does elsewhere. He came to Leeds as a highly paid professional to do a job in difficult circumstances; most fans opinion of him is that he didn't even do the bare minimum expected, of giving the best of which he was capable. He's probably the most despised player of recent years, and not without reason. There are no excuses for not giving a s**t.

Trust me, I understand the frustration fans have felt - I include myself in that. I just also try to consider the challenges Wes (or any player) faced, such as adapting to a new team and league, at a time when our circumstances were pretty dire and getting worse by the minute. Not an excuse, but maybe a factor. You're certainly right that he was brought in to perform and didn't live up to that. Can't speak to whether he's the most despised player of recent memory, but you could well be right, depending on what segment of fans you poll and on what day At least he has admitted recently his poor performance with Leeds, which is more than I can say for someone like JM, who seems incapable of admitting culpability.

[Jaydog]

Sara - While fan opinions obviously vary on Wes, and I completely agree that his performance with us was sorely lacking, I'm trying to consider the broader context. Individual performances are influenced by various factors, including team dynamics, coaching, and personal circumstances. McKennie's contributions may have faced challenges, but I think it's crucial to acknowledge the complexity of a player's experience and our situation when he arrived. Criticizing solely based on attitude and effort might oversimplify the situation. Factors such as injuries, tactical adjustments, or personal issues can also play a role. I think evaluating a player's performance comprehensively provides a more balanced perspective. For instance, he's certainly performed well with the USMNT and is currently in very good form with Juventus. I agree his attitude was s**t (along with many others), and he was part of the reason for relegation. Just saying, he does have some quality.

Bar talent the most key attribute in any sportsman. Equally as important I’d say. Look at Dan James. Or Luke Ayling. Stuart Dallas. Never an excuse for a poor attitude.

[Barlow Boy]

It must be tough to take when you’ve been subbed, walking off the pitch for the final time at ER and your own fans are singing “You Fat ba***rd” repeatedly

[White Riot]

It must be tough to take when you’ve been subbed, walking off the pitch for the final time at ER and your own fans are singing “You Fat ba***rd” repeatedly

I think it was fair comment by our fans BB

McKennie is a fat, lazy cnut

[The Subhuman]

I expect you're right, but I'm not really interested in what he does elsewhere. He came to Leeds as a highly paid professional to do a job in difficult circumstances; most fans opinion of him is that he didn't even do the bare minimum expected, of giving the best of which he was capable. He's probably the most despised player of recent years, and not without reason. There are no excuses for not giving a s**t.

He was "coached" by the three stooges... no one came out of that well.

[Johnthewhite]

It must be tough to take when you’ve been subbed, walking off the pitch for the final time at ER and your own fans are singing “You Fat ba***rd” repeatedly

If the cap fits and all that.
Ask yourself this, would you want him in the trenches with you ?

[Jaydog]

If the cap fits and all that.
Ask yourself this, would you want him in the trenches with you ?

I don’t know about the trenches but I wouldn’t want to be behind him in the McDonald’s queue if you know what I mean.
“ sorry sir but McKennie just ordered the last 300”

[Jaydog]

Is that a small dachshund puppy on his lap

[Jaydog]

Yes... lovely with a bit of ranch dressing.

[The Subhuman]

As Jay says, that doesn't account for his attitude.

It could tbf .... Think I'd have a bad attitude working with the post Bielsa clowns. He had good games.

[AcrossThePondAsh]

There's a 136 page thread on him on another forum that is pretty unequivocal in its condemnation. A small sample of comments from the most recent page:

'Never been more let down by a signing I don't think. Can't believe I was actually excited he when was announced - mugged us all off.'

'That debut at Forest has to be one of the most unimpressive debuts I've ever seen.'

'Spent most evenings in a Wetherby boozer during his last few weeks….'

'Was photographed on a train down to Kings Cross stuffing his gob just a few short hours after we had been relegated. Couldn’t wait to get out of here.'


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From the few recent responses in this thread, I'd say he's pretty hated lol Just playing devil's advocate here...do you think he could also be a massive scapegoat for all that ailed us? A lot of the vitriol was deserved but was he also a just big target (no pun intended) for unhappy fans to pile on?

[AcrossThePondAsh]

It could tbf .... Think I'd have a bad attitude working with the post Bielsa clowns. He had good games.

Agreed - more factors that contribute.