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Sheffield Wednesday v Leeds United
Sheffield Wednesday
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0–2
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08/03/2024
Hillsborough
Leeds United
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All-time record vs Sheffield Wednesday
104
Played
42
Won
28
Drawn
34
Lost
+9
GD
40%
Win %
Away record
52
Played
17
Won
12
Drawn
23
Lost
-22
GD
33%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
02/09/2023 Elland Road 0–0 D Championship ↗
11/01/2020 Elland Road 0–2 L Championship ↗
26/10/2019 Hillsborough 0–0 D Championship ↗
13/04/2019 Elland Road 1–0 W Championship ↗
28/09/2018 Hillsborough 1–1 D Championship ↗
All-time top scorers vs Sheffield Wednesday
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1 Charlie Keetley 7
2 John Charles 7
3 Rod Wallace 7
4 Harry Duggan 4
5 Lee Chapman 4
Starting XI
Substitutes
20 James
33 Roberts
49 Joseph
7 Piroe
25 Byram
Unused Substitutes
5 Cresswell
6 Cooper
26 Darlow
30 Gelhardt
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Re: Wendies pre match chat

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andrewjohnsmith wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:30 pm I could see that been scrapped after everyone went back to work on Thursday hungover
Play in the Owlerton district hence The Owls....
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whiteswan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:36 pm Play in the Owlerton district hence The Owls....
You googling this Swannie or just acquired knowledge? What about the Baggies. That was something to do with paying to get in. Coins in a bag. Or baggy work trousers. It’s unclear I think.
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Re: Wendies pre match chat

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Jaydog wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:42 pm You googling this Swannie or just acquired knowledge? What about the Baggies. That was something to do with paying to get in. Coins in a bag. Or baggy work trousers. It’s unclear I think.
Because I'm a very wise and knowledgeable swan of course ;-)
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Re: Wendies pre match chat

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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:44 am I'd guess

Meslier
Roberts
Byram
Gruev
Rodon
Ampadu
James
Gray
Bamford
Georginio
Summerville

I'd swap Bamford for Mateo
Byram for Firpo
Gnonto for Summerville
No way Mateo should start ahead of Bamford after we have acquired 31 out of 33 points & especially in a upcoming tough Yorkshire derby.

Mateo is a great prospect for the future & should be used sparingly as Farke is deploying, coming on against tired legs in the last 15 to 20 minutes.

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whiteswan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:36 pm Play in the Owlerton district hence The Owls....
Owlerton 'as got nuffink to do wif owls, the inter webs 'as dis to say.

The name is believed to come from the abundant growth of alder trees in the area

Nuffink to do wif a bleeding propensity of avian mouse munchers.
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Re: Wendies pre match chat

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AcrossThePondAsh wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:17 am Think you're probably right about this. Although I'd really like to see Joseph given the start. Not knocking Bamford, as he's been great for us, but Mateo seems to be the real deal. Technically gifted and hungry. Argument for it not being the time since, as you pointed out in your previous post, we seem to always play crappy teams when they're suddenly in form, and Paddy gives us experience, but Joseph gets me excited the same way Archie and Geo do. Lots to come from him I think.
Yeah totally agree that they should start Joseph! Looks like a great prospect for us up front. He's quite fast & skillfull, just needs to develop with game time :soccer: :soccer:
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Re: Wendies pre match chat

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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:40 pm Wouldn't change him, the finishing will come. His brand of chaos football will always keep us in games and it's down to those behind him to cover for his expected errors ... He's an improviser supreme and that will often go awry.
he is not good enough when we get promoted
Leeds need to bring in a midfielder who can score goals and a decent number 9 in Jan 2027.
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pjm2019 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:33 am he is not good enough when we get promoted
Yes he is ....
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Re: Wendies pre match chat

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Sean_Nile wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:16 am Owlerton 'as got nuffink to do wif owls, the inter webs 'as dis to say.

The name is believed to come from the abundant growth of alder trees in the area

Nuffink to do wif a bleeding propensity of avian mouse munchers.
Deffo owlerton. Wendies moved to the area of owlerton hence 'owl's nickname. Nuff on the Wendies....
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Ben Scooby lufc wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:16 am Yeah totally agree that they should start Joseph! Looks like a great prospect for us up front. He's quite fast & skillfull, just needs to develop with game time :soccer: :soccer:
No way Mateo should start ahead of Bamford after we have acquired 31 out of 33 points & especially in a upcoming tough Yorkshire derby.

Mateo is a great prospect for the future & should be used sparingly as Farke is deploying, coming on against tired legs in the last 15 to 20 minutes.

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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:42 am Yes he is ....
how many times does he lose the ball, his 1 trick is to roll his opponent. He will not be able to do this in the premiership. How many goals has he scored in this league. Again LUFC paid over the odds for such a player £35 Million
Leeds need to bring in a midfielder who can score goals and a decent number 9 in Jan 2027.
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pjm2019 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:08 pm how many times does he lose the ball, his 1 trick is to roll his opponent. He will not be able to do this in the premiership. How many goals has he scored in this league. Again LUFC paid over the odds for such a player £35 Million
Don't care, he does the unexpected an that will cause problems in the Prem ...He has a lot more than one trick... The trick that sets a player away from nowhere is his best one and undefendable...
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pjm2019 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:08 pm how many times does he lose the ball, his 1 trick is to roll his opponent. He will not be able to do this in the premiership. How many goals has he scored in this league. Again LUFC paid over the odds for such a player £35 Million
No but, yes but, is his smile worth a goal... isn't his celebrations worth three points.
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weasel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:35 am I think they have been very careful with Gray. Prior to bringing him off against the dogbotherers Farke was studying one of those laptop things that someone was showing him. I think they monitor a lot of the fitness side of things with those and flag up when players are in danger of getting muscle injuries. I may be wrong but I can' remember Farke bringing Gray off before, usually he is switched into midfield.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Bamford given a rest, he has played 2 games in quick succession since being injured. Byram I would expect not to be risked. Wouldn't be surprised to see one of Rutter or Summerville given a rest too.
Now that is one technology statgeekything i can see some good in, monitoring mileage etc.

I feel there's a good case for Joseph to start, along with Cooper and Roberts again, i'd like to see Rutter and Jimmy coming off the bench anorl for this game.
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Detinusdeel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:49 am Local Derby away from home against a team whose form points wise over the last 6 matches has almost matched our own. We will need to be up for this and on our game to take home the vital 3 completion points.
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Re: Sheffield Wednesday v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Pre Match Chat

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Expect a bit of rough stuff from them tomorrow night to keep their crowd riled up.

Perhaps Summerville to be rotated, despite the calls for Archie in MF I think the steel of Kamara and Gruev willl be indispensible starting the game.

Gnonto will need to keep a cool head too as they will be out to wind our lads up.

I have never enjoyed us playing at their place but we can win this, if we try and not play the occasion
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Re: Sheffield Wednesday v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Pre Match Chat

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Having looked at the formation Wendies have played recently it looks like they seem to focus on filling the middle of the pitch.

Danny Rohl worked under Ralf Hassenhuttl a lot so likely has that Red Bull old fashioned style dna.

Suggests we need to do two things we don't always do imo

1) move the ball much quicker

2) pull the Wendies side to one side of the pitch and switch it quickly to the other.

The latter was a massive problem for us under Marsch so maybe for Rohl as well?

Also I really worry about Georgie, feels like a game he either has a worldie or they swarm him and he's constantly dispossessed
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:53 pm Expect a bit of rough stuff from them tomorrow night to keep their crowd riled up.

Perhaps Summerville to be rotated, despite the calls for Archie in MF I think the steel of Kamara and Gruev willl be indispensible starting the game.

Gnonto will need to keep a cool head too as they will be out to wind our lads up.

I have never enjoyed us playing at their place but we can win this, if we try and not play the occasion
Wish we could play Amps in midfield

Think quick switches could be a real weapon and Kamara doesn't do that, safe, short passes.

Gruev maybe?
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pjm2019 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:33 am he is not good enough when we get promoted
I think Geo could more than hold his own in the prem. Not worried about him.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:12 pm Wish we could play Amps in midfield

Think quick switches could be a real weapon and Kamara doesn't do that, safe, short passes.

Gruev maybe?
Good point about the passing ranges and hitting long accurate balls seems to be a bit of a dying art in the modern game.

Last player we had who could really do it well is now languishing on the bench again after his inauspicious start for the Hammers.

Silly boy as he could have been an absolute legend at his home town club :)
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