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BradWhite wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:21 pm IMO Fury was awful against Ngannou, I don't think he even trained for that fight the way he will for Usyk, he was well out of shape and treated it as an exhibition fight, that's what happens when boxers get complacent and ego takes over.

Ngannou is not a boxer, look how he squared up to Joshua, flat and off balanced and then he switched to southpaw leaving himself wide open to Joshua's right hand.

I'm glad Joshua showed that MMA fighters do not belong at the top table of boxing, specially against a 2 time world champion and olympian.
I would give Joshua zero chance of beating Ngannou at MMA.

I hope all this silly cross over and z list celebrity YouTube stuff is now put to bed, although I see above that Mike Tyson v Jake Paul is signed and I hope Mike ends this nonsense too.


Fury has 2 fights with Usyk (rematch clause is there what ever the result) then the winner gets Joshua but that is likely to be next year so Joshua has to keep busy so put him in with Dubois.
If MMA fighters are coming over to boxing , fighting real boxers such as AJ , then they get hit like that, there is real danger involved to their health and well being , they just aren't hit like that in MMA....Ngannou never been floored before but AJ has pretty much walked through him. The danger for the sake of entertainment is ridiculous, but they can earn a lifetime of money in one go in boxing. They just aren't trained to the level boxers are , trained to cause devastation with every punch . It's dangerous and silly and could end up with something badly hurt . While it's sort of interesting when you get someone get close like the Ngannou-Fury bout , this showed the reality. I think Fury also looked like " oh s**t" , the look on his face after the KO, another one for him to dodge in AJ ( which he already has anyway ). AJ has now pretty much walked through two opponents that troubled Fury if you also look at the Wallin fight .
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Clacton White wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 1:40 pm If MMA fighters are coming over to boxing , fighting real boxers such as AJ , then they get hit like that, there is real danger involved to their health and well being , they just aren't hit like that in MMA....Ngannou never been floored before but AJ has pretty much walked through him. The danger for the sake of entertainment is ridiculous, but they can earn a lifetime of money in one go in boxing. They just aren't trained to the level boxers are , trained to cause devastation with every punch . It's dangerous and silly and could end up with something badly hurt . While it's sort of interesting when you get someone get close like the Ngannou-Fury bout , this showed the reality. I think Fury also looked like " oh s**t" , the look on his face after the KO, another one for him to dodge in AJ ( which he already has anyway ). AJ has now pretty much walked through two opponents that troubled Fury if you also look at the Wallin fight .
Fury has been too inactive and obviously hadn't taken the Ngannou fight seriously, he just didn't perform so I'm not writing him off just yet but he'll have his hands full against Usyk who takes every fight seriously and is a very skilful boxer. Fury will not beat him without making it a dog fight and hitting to the body which Joshua couldn't do because Joshua can't fight on the inside.

Joshua still has a suspect chin IMO but he jumped all over Ngannou and got the job done, hopefully that's the end of Ngannou in a boxing ring, he's made life changing money and MMA is still there for him.
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:oops:

In great shape for a dude pushing 60.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:09 pm
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In great shape for a dude pushing 60.
Yep but boxers move, Jake Paul will move, he was also in great shape against Roy Jones and didn't impress.

I just hope Mike doesn't tarnish his reputation when he really doesn't need the money now and he was 'one hell of a fighter' (said in the voice of Mickey Goldmill)
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BradWhite wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:58 pm Yep but boxers move, Jake Paul will move, he was also in great shape against Roy Jones and didn't impress.

I just hope Mike doesn't tarnish his reputation when he really doesn't need the money now and he was 'one hell of a fighter' (said in the voice of Mickey Goldmill)
They do move and no matter how fit Tyson is he will still be a nearly 60 year old man vs a very fit man in his late 20s.

Not likely to have the foot speed Paul does no matter how fit he is for his age, certainly not the stamina.
But the videos do show his hand speed and power is still very impressive.

As is his body movement.

Need to see closer to the time, but I think (if it's allowed) Tyson will knock him out.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:21 pm They do move and no matter how fit Tyson is he will still be a nearly 60 year old man vs a very fit man in his late 20s.

Not likely to have the foot speed Paul does no matter how fit he is for his age, certainly not the stamina.
But the videos do show his hand speed and power is still very impressive.

As is his body movement.

Need to see closer to the time, but I think (if it's allowed) Tyson will knock him out.
Pads don't hit back

Jake Paul is 30 years younger, granted he's no boxer but Tyson smokes tons of weed and uses a walking stick (you don't get to see that bit).

It's embarrassing to the sport.
Put Jake in with Carl Froch who is 20 years older than him and 10 years retired, watch the video via link (sorry I have forgotten how to post vids on here)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWBx-Gr ... onFighting
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BradWhite wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:48 pm Pads don't hit back

Jake Paul is 30 years younger, granted he's no boxer but Tyson smokes tons of weed and uses a walking stick (you don't get to see that bit).

It's embarrassing to the sport.
Put Jake in with Carl Froch who is 20 years older than him and 10 years retired, watch the video via link (sorry I have forgotten how to post vids on here)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWBx-Gr ... onFighting
It is embarrassing I agree.

And it's probably more hope than expectation on my part because it would be an insult to the sport if Jake Paul could claim a victory over Mike Tyson.

But I live in hope.

Paul is no boxer as you say and Tyson is an icon.
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That fight tonight, Wardley v Clarke must be fight of the year already.

What a fight that was.
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Barlow Boy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:27 pm That fight tonight, Wardley v Clarke must be fight of the year already.

What a fight that was.
Great fight and a draw was the right decision IMO.
Both put on a great performance.
There has to be a Rematch
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BradWhite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:24 pm Great fight and a draw was the right decision IMO.
Both put on a great performance.
There has to be a Rematch
Absolute warriors, the pair of them.

I’d be amazed if it’s not done again.
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Agree, Kev, heavyweight fights are usually pretty boring, but that was a great scrap
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Both deserve respect more so Wardley, he was a white collar boxer not too long ago,
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lufc1304 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:28 pm Agree, Kev, heavyweight fights are usually pretty boring, but that was a great scrap
A special fight, that is for sure.
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Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk at the weekend.

But John Fury
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Cjay wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 1:14 pm Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk at the weekend.

But John Fury

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What a d*ckhead. What is wrong with JF. Always trying to steal the show. His own Boxing career was pitiful. Now he's showing himself to be a coward and a bully. He won't reply to John Egan of Mickey Theo when they call him out for a real fight.
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John Fury is embarrassing.
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Other angles give a clearer view of it.
And John Fury spoke to Sky Sports as well
Noticeable he headbutted the smallest dude of the group :duno:
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John Fury has always been a prick; the sooner someone cleans his clock, the better
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John Fury is a tosser.

Anyone see the Lomachenko v Kambosos fight?

Looking forward to the rematch with Josh Taylor & Jack Catterall.
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