Barlow Boy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:47 pm
Just goes to show watching football by stats doesn’t work
Not by a long chalk ... Stats can work but they're overly simplistic in football. I rely on stats a lot in the American version where I can ignore the obvious stat and use the important ones.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:10 pm
Rather strange turn of events.
Illan Meslier is guaranteed to win the Championship Golden Glove for most clean sheets.
Admittedly with an usually low total as over the last , 9 seasons its been rare to win it with less than 20 clean sheets, Mes can get 19 at most.
He is also statistically the 4th worst performing goalkeeper in terms of goals prevented vs what he should have.
Strange.
Straightforward really we have had a very good defence. Defence falters and we don't have that get out of jail card by a keeper performing heroics (ala Schmeichel in past seasons for Leicester). It goes back to the point I have made about Orta several times. He signs young players with potential but didn't put anything in place to improve them. Messlier is better than he was when we first signed him but has certainly not improved as much as he should have done over the time he has been here. Same with players like Struyjk, he has improved but not huge leaps and bound. Even Summerville has only significantly improved because we dropped down a division, same story for Rutter who would likely have been completely lost if we'd stayed in the prem and has only got away with his shite finishing because he has a few assists and a big smile.
Cjay wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:23 pm
I've pretended to support a team that's been crap for most of my life as part of a long term plan
Victor_Notts-17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:03 pm
Did you post them because there's something wrong with your brain
Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:27 pm
Ahh but I can explain statistically why he is statistically the best but how statistically it Is misleading and that statistically he isn't.
Statistically
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weasel wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:30 pm
Straightforward really we have had a very good defence. Defence falters and we don't have that get out of jail card by a keeper performing heroics (ala Schmeichel in past seasons for Leicester). It goes back to the point I have made about Orta several times. He signs young players with potential but didn't put anything in place to improve them. Messlier is better than he was when we first signed him but has certainly not improved as much as he should have done over the time he has been here. Same with players like Struyjk, he has improved but not huge leaps and bound. Even Summerville has only significantly improved because we dropped down a division, same story for Rutter who would likely have been completely lost if we'd stayed in the prem and has only got away with his shite finishing because he has a few assists and a big smile.
Totally agree
Leeds need to bring in a midfielder who can score goals and a decent number 9 in Jan 2027.
I don’t think we can compare based only on the games played against us. How many times do we say our opponents keeper has had the game of his life, only for the following week to let in a handful? (that’s a rhetorical question btw, please don’t quote qualifying stats)
Meslier’s best attribute has historically been his shot-stopping, but we can’t say that of him this season. And his control of his 6 yard box is weak, so no, I wouldn’t say he’s the best: but if he is, then the quality of championship keepers is pants.
whiteswan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:08 am
Stats? Load of tosh. Keeps somebody in a job, that's all. Get rid.
A friend of a friend runs a comprehensive sports stats business. In fact, most of the tosh spouted by commentators is a product of his researchers efforts. He’s a multimillionaire. Go figure (pun intended).
Meslier, Illan
