Illan Meslier

[Clacton White]

Arnold J Rimmer ........H .
Those that know , will know .

[CUSSIE01]

( Pascal came over and said he had never seen anything like this. He said it bounced and jumped in the other direction because there was a mark on the pitch.) This is from Farke post match so we either believe Pascal or not ??
Apparently Firpo stormed off down the tunnel after the game in disgust, wonder why considering he was at fault for the 1st goal and got skinned every time he had to defend. I agree Mes can make mistakes but there’s not a keeper who doesn’t, no mention of the brilliant save before the 1st goal or the one against Norwich.
There’s a lot of people want him dropped but how does that help his confidence, he’s a young player and apparently in tears in the changing room, hopefully the players stand by him and so should the fans.
I worked at my job for 44 years and still made mistakes, the difference being I didn’t make them in front of 30,000 fans and millions on tv. Give the lad a break.

[Barlow Boy]

Meslier makes far too many silly errors, he makes me nervous every time he's on or near the ball.

It's like a calamity waiting to happen.

If we miss out on promotion by two points, his error will come back to haunt us all.

At least it won't be Farke's fault.

or Aaronson missing the sitter against Portsmouth.

There will be other errors, from other players, we will be able to point the finger at too, mate

[Jaydog]

I’m over it. He will punish himself far more than any fan or opponents could.
Its clear his body is slightly narrow and moving the other direction to the one that the ball takes. Maybe takes his eye off it for a split second. He should be far more square on so the ball will at least hit his body.
But if that is going to be in the calculations at seasons end for whether we go up or not then so should a lot of other things.

[YorkshireSquare]

So the general conclusion is Meslier's error is acceptable.

Genuine question, was he concussed?

[The Subhuman]

or Aaronson missing the sitter against Portsmouth.

There will be other errors, from other players, we will be able to point the finger at too, mate

Not quite the same thing. Had Aaronson missed form 2 yards with no keeper and acres of space, that would be the same thing. We can sugar coat it as much as we like it was still maybe the worst error/lapse of concentration since, well I don't know when. He was looking right at it, and the order of the day would be to hold on to it an let the clock tick by. So he didn't even have to worry about quick distribution

I'm wondering if he was having a little double vision from the bang to the head, if that's the case it's not on him. But he shouldn't have been on the pitch and I think it's the likeliest reason. In American football he'd have had to have gone to the sideline for concussion tests

[Barlow Boy]

Not quite the same thing. Had Aaronson missed form 2 yards with no keeper and acres of space, that would be the same thing. We can sugar coat it as much as we like it was still maybe the worst error/lapse of concentration since, well I don't know when. He was looking right at it, and the order of the day would be to hold on to it an let the clock tick by.

I'm wondering if he was having a little double vision from the bang to the head, if that's the case it's not on him. But he shouldn't have been on the pitch

I’m not excusing the error, far from it, but to hold that error as a reason for missing out on promotion is a bit of a stretch at this stage of the season for me (many players will make errors, albeit not on the same sphere as the Meslier one).

[PhoenixUnited]

There are times in life, and also in football, where something happens that is shocking, astonishing, unbelievable, irretrievable, unfair, without rhyme or reason, utterly stupid, plain bonkers and final. There's no explanation. The second Sunderland goal was all of those things and more. What can you do? There's no point in crying in your beer and there no point in ranting and raving. These kind of things will forever stay in our memories and in this instance will always be associated with Illan Meslier's life and football career. Such is life. All I can say in the matter is "Bad luck Illan mate. S*** happens" and after that say no more about it.

[Tyzy]

What seems to make it seem even worse is it happened in the last minute and no its no where near the same as the Aaronson miss.

[SG90]

I'm wondering if he was having a little double vision from the bang to the head, if that's the case it's not on him. But he shouldn't have been on the pitch and I think it's the likeliest reason. In American football he'd have had to have gone to the sideline for concussion tests

Exactly my thoughts too. No idea why he was kept on, even in today's standards, you'd think there'd have been more caution. It's not like Sunderland had threatened at all in the second half.

[Jaydog]

I’m not excusing the error, far from it, but to hold that error as a reason for missing out on promotion is a bit of a stretch at this stage of the season for me (many players will make errors, albeit not on the same sphere as the Meslier one).

Not a healthy way to look at life in general.
If only I’d done this or that then something or other wouldn’t have.
I expect if there was a poll with (a) Dropped for next game & (b) not dropped then the majority would call for his head.
For me if Farke dropped him it would be the single most stupid thing he could do for team morale.

[The Subhuman]

I’m not excusing the error, far from it, but to hold that error as a reason for missing out on promotion is a bit of a stretch at this stage of the season for me (many players will make errors, albeit not on the same sphere as the Meslier one).

Oh I'm not doing that... No one went back last season to "find" the lost point or two and we'll get points we don't deserve which will round things up

[YorkshireSquare]

I'm wondering if he was having a little double vision from the bang to the head, if that's the case it's not on him. But he shouldn't have been on the pitch and I think it's the likeliest reason. In American football he'd have had to have gone to the sideline for concussion tests

Footballs concussion protocols are shameful. Wouldn’t have been on the pitch had it been rugby league either.

[The Subhuman]

Not a healthy way to look at life in general.
If only I’d done this or that then something or other wouldn’t have.
I expect if there was a poll with (a) Dropped for next game & (b) not dropped then the majority would call for his head.
For me if Farke dropped him it would be the single most stupid thing he could do for team morale.

Not sure about that, sometimes a reset is very helpful to the player. I'd not vote for him to be benched but I don't think Farke would be wrong if he talks to the player and then decides to "rest" him for a while. Joseph got benched last night or rested....

[Jaydog]

Not sure about that, sometimes a reset is very helpful to the player. I'd not vote for him to be benched but I don't think Farke would be wrong if he talks to the player and then decides to "rest" him for a while. Joseph got benched last night or rested....

If the player agrees then fine but not otherwise.
Anyway no chance Farke would do that.

[YorkshireSquare]

Anyway, regardless of what you think about the error, we need to get behind him for the next game because our options in goal are woeful. Karl Darlow has hardly filled me with confidence.

[1964white]

or Aaronson missing the sitter against Portsmouth.

There will be other errors, from other players, we will be able to point the finger at too, mate

To be fair on Meslier last night, he made one great save, whilst his teammates were slow to react, ball-watching for their opening goal.

I do think Meslier should have done better with the penalty at Norwich, though.

[1964white]

Anyway, regardless of what you think about the error, we need to get behind him for the next game because our options in goal are woeful. Karl Darlow has hardly filled me with confidence.

Totally agree, Adam.

[mentalcase]

I was fuming when it happened, the timing couldn't have been at a worse time.
10 minutes later after I'd vented my spleen in frustration at dropping 2 points and gifting their gobshite fans a point, I think Mes was concentrating on his next move, collecting the ball and dropping to the floor, game over.
A bit like a pool or snooker player is looking 2 moves in front, other than the howler Mes had a very good game, even catching the ball numerous times.
I'm not buying the concusion theory either, he cocked up, pure and simple.
Why didn't the ref book their player for ramming pascal into meslier anyway , dangerous play !!

[mentalcase]

Oh, and another thing that pissed me right off with Meslier was, wtf was he laughing with their manager at the end