Leeds United v Derby County Match Thread

[malcolmw]

Yes. Farke explained it well.

Strujik played left back quite a bit under Jesse Marsch. But it's not ideal. Like Wober, a bigger guy, natural center back and a compromise at left back.

His comment about Amps being close to being considered for a few playing minutes got me thinking about how he comes back.
We have missed him. He is a great defensive presence.

I realize this won't happen as DF seems pretty set on his formation, but I wondered if our lack of efficiency finishing could be helped by playing 4-3-3?
In other words - do we have the right players right now to have a lone striker upfront?
So 433 would be
Bogle, Rodon, Struijk, Firpo/Byrum/Schmidt
Rothwell, Amps, Tanaka
Ramazani/Gnonto, Joseph/Piroe, James

Aaronson on the bench.

Just noodling ideas
It does show though that, when fully fit, the squad is quite impressive.

Also 4-3-3 can be tough in this league.

[Tom the Cat]

It was an issue against Blackburn. We played 3 games that week. Blackburn only played 2, Blackburn were at home. We had to travel.

Plus it would make more sense to give the early game to someone who played on Tuesday rather than someone who played on Wednesday.

Leeds get the early games because they get far more folk watching on TV than most other teams. All the matches are live on the continent and the viewer ratings are much higher when Leeds are involved. I have n doubt that we have negotiated a suitable fee for early kick-offs with the broadcasters.

[mentalcase]

His comment about Amps being close to being considered for a few playing minutes got me thinking about how he comes back.
We have missed him. He is a great defensive presence.

I realize this won't happen as DF seems pretty set on his formation, but I wondered if our lack of efficiency finishing could be helped by playing 4-3-3?
In other words - do we have the right players right now to have a lone striker upfront?
So 433 would be
Bogle, Rodon, Struijk, Firpo/Byrum/Schmidt
Rothwell, Amps, Tanaka
Ramazani/Gnonto, Joseph/Piroe, James

Aaronson on the bench.

Just noodling ideas
It does show though that, when fully fit, the squad is quite impressive.

Also 4-3-3 can be tough in this league.

That in effect is a 2-5-3 malcolm, the way we set up to play.

[pjm2019]

As Farke said it disrupts training schedules. He referred to having an early game straight after the international break when some players were only coming in late.

It must impact squad selection in instances like that.

Another excuse for DF, Grow a pair

[pjm2019]

we should play 3 at the back Wober/Pascal/Roden this then allows us to have 2 wingers, 3 in midfield and TWO strikers

3-5-2

[andrewjohnsmith]

Leeds get the early games because they get far more folk watching on TV than most other teams. All the matches are live on the continent and the viewer ratings are much higher when Leeds are involved. I have n doubt that we have negotiated a suitable fee for early kick-offs with the broadcasters.

I live in California. We have a huge following in the US. 4 a.m. on Saturday is an absolutely awful kick off time. Even the east coast, 7 a.m. is too early.

[andrewjohnsmith]

we should play 3 at the back Wober/Pascal/Roden this then allows us to have 2 wingers, 3 in midfield and TWO strikers

3-5-2

That's kind of the plan when Ampadu or Gruev plays in midfield. Full backs attack. The DM becomes a 3rd CB. Unfortunately both are injured.

[mentalcase]

And i think 12.30 is a bollock for so.e of us

[Barlow Boy]

And i think 12.30 is a bollock for so.e of us

Too right

[andrewjohnsmith]

Too right

Per that conversation a couple of days ago. I work tonight. So really hating the 4:30 am start. Might be watching it in bed. Yes, it kills the mood when it's too early to get up and make a cup of tea and a bacon butty.

[andrewjohnsmith]

12:30 seems perfect for the Merseyside derby tomorrow. Easy for locals to get to. It's a big occasion, almost like a bank holiday, so they can make a day of it. Would be nice if all 12:30 KO's were so well planned.

Someone also mentioned that these 12:30 KO's are for the international audience. Every country overseas gets 3 pm KO's too. 3 pm Saturday games are televised.

[Barlow Boy]

Per that conversation a couple of days ago. I work tonight. So really hating the 4:30 am start. Might be watching it in bed. Yes, it kills the mood when it's too early to get up and make a cup of tea and a bacon butty.

As you mentioned previously, and I forgot to respond to the post to be honest Andrew (apologies), there is absolutely no thought whatsoever for the away fans attending the game.

It’s bad enough for the home fans who live local, but even worse for away fans and home fans who have to travel a fair distance.

[andrewjohnsmith]

As you mentioned previously, and I forgot to respond to the post to be honest Andrew (apologies), there is absolutely no thought whatsoever for the away fans attending the game.

It’s bad enough for the home fans who live local, but even worse for away fans and home fans who have to travel a fair distance.

In terms of time zones, it's good for China

[Barlow Boy]

In terms of time zones, it's good for China

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It’s farcical now though, it really is.

[malcolmw]

That in effect is a 2-5-3 malcolm, the way we set up to play.

No it's 433. I am just giving the options for certain positions.
433 is a very attack minded formation. We may not be robust enough in defense to employ it.

[Cjay]

No it's 433. I am just giving the options for certain positions.
433 is a very attack minded formation. We may not be robust enough in defense to employ it.

Would require Farke to drop the 2 holders or its basically the same as now?

Times last season we should have used 4-3-3 to gain more control in midfield, Southampton times 3 springs to mind but DF didn't.

[malcolmw]

Another excuse for DF, Grow a pair

Well if you'd actually watched the interview, you would have heard him say we don't use it as an excuse as it's the same for both teams.
What he then said was it should and will be pointed out in discussions with the league in terms of overall match scheduling.

He is not someone who uses excuses - in fact I'd say he is quite the opposite. When we lose he says it like it is. No Jesse Marsh BS.

I assume you're another one of those with lots of moans on the topic of our manager but no solutions.

[Cjay]

Well if you'd actually watched the interview, you would have heard him say we don't use it as an excuse as it's the same for both teams.
What he then said was it should and will be pointed out in discussions with the league in terms of overall match scheduling.

He is not someone who uses excuses - in fact I'd say he is quite the opposite. When we lose he says it like it is. No Jesse Marsh BS.

I assume you're another one of those with lots of moans on the topic of our manager but no solutions.

He bloody is

[malcolmw]

He bloody is

Nonsense. Are you even capable of being remotely objective on the subject of DF - I don't think so.

Maybe you'd like Marsh back instead.

[malcolmw]

Would require Farke to drop the 2 holders or its basically the same as now?

Times last season we should have used 4-3-3 to gain more control in midfield, Southampton times 3 springs to mind but DF didn't.

Yes I remember that, and recall the discussion in his interview.
I dont think we have the players to pull it off at present.
My only reason for thinking about it was about how/where to accommodate our captain when he returns.

Some are saying he should go back into the defense and not midfield. Straight replacement for Pascal. But to me he has too good an insight into reading the game for that and, also, Pascal is very consistent right now.
I would think Rothwell will return to the bench.
My concerns right now - big picture - with performance are Aaronson and Joesph.