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Luton pre match chat- Darlow WILL start

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A 12:30 away kick off down Londonish direction, always goes well :lol:

All gone a bit wrong for us in recent weeks hasn't it.

5 points in the last 4.

Overtaken by Sheffield United despite a decent points gap not long ago, and caught by Burnley despite a bigger gap.

We need a result.

As for our opponents they have struggled to adapt back in the Championship.

Probably overachieved getting out of it in the first place to he fair.

Rob Edwards has gone, former Wycombe manager Matt Bloomfield took charge and a slight improvement followed.

10 points from the last 6 games which is more than us.

Beat Hull, drew with Boro and beaten Portsmouth recently

Admittedly the rest of the top 4 have all dispatched of them recently.

But they are still in better form than the league suggests.

Been slightly better at home than away as you'd expect

However the numbers aren't kind.

Least goals scored and 4th worst defence.

With that being said the underlying numbers paint a different picture (sorry Swannie).

They have conceded far more goals than they should and have scored far less.

The analyst would tell you they are the definition of the players letting down the manager.

Tactically it's pretty as you'd expect.

Not a possession team, 4th least in the league.

They set up with a back 3 usually in a 3-5-2.

But that can become 5-4-1 put of possession or even a back 6.

They concentrate on crowding the central areas and forcing teams down the sides backing themselves to deal with crosses.

In possession they are direct and progressive.

A press is pretty useless because they usually bypass the midfield and go long into the front 2.

Heavy focus on 2nd balls and being physical.

Despite the lack of possession they are 5th for big chances missed and 7th for touches in the opposition box.

They are direct and get the ball forward at every opportunity.

A heavy focus on crosses as well which given th size of the front 2 isn't a shock.

But they are 23rd for a reason and that is largely down to individual errors.

In terms of key players.

Wing back Alfie Doughty is a very important player offensively for them with his set piece delivery and crossing ability. In the top 7 in the league for chances created and the top player in the league for chances created per game.

Midfielder Jordan Clark Is key in making runs to help support the front 2 and has helped himself to 5 goals and 3 assists this season and is 3rd in the league for big chances created.

Finally whilst his strike partner Adebayo is statistically the most wasteful player in the league for chances missed Captain Carlton Morris is still a threat. A big strong physical and highly experienced player he has 7 goals and 2 assists this season.

So not without threat and in a way a bit of a nightmare opponent in a historically iffy time and place for us.

But one who we really need to beat and given all of the top 4 have bar us recently we really have 0 excuses.

In terms of ourselves.

We need a response

We need Farke to do something he rarely ever does, back down.

He called Meslier the best in the league a few times this season and categorically backed him when the opportunity arose to replace him in January or with Darlow.

Is it time for a change?

Luton are a big physical side who love a set piece and cross and they will be targeting Mes surely if he plays?

Apart from that Farke bought Captain Ethan Ampadu back in rather surprisingly, he was clearly not ready, will we see Tanaka back in? All be it he isn't in great form either.

Or will we see Gruev in which is something DF does regularly away?

A goal from BA yesterday but also another from Gnonto, will we see Gnonto? As mentioned Luton go over a press which makes the BA runs a lot argument a bit pointless surely?

Is this perhaps a game for the more physical Joseph?

How about James and Solomon? Both struggling?

Is it too late though? Throwing in players who have barely played for ages? Darlow, Joseph, Ramazani and so on?
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A must win game. Players must take responsibility for silly mistakes and wrong decision making on the pitch. Since we beat the Blades we’ve accumulated 5 pts. While they and Burnley have amassed 13 each. No more excuses Leeds.
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Meslier
Bogle
Firpo
Gruev
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James
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Piroe
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Corkwhites wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 2:29 pm A must win game. Players must take responsibility for silly mistakes and wrong decision making on the pitch. Since we beat the Blades we’ve accumulated 5 pts. While they and Burnley have amassed 13 each. No more excuses Leeds.
Sort of agree that it's a must win game after the recent run we've been on.
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Luton will look to get the ball up to Morris and Adebeyo at every opportunity due to their aerial
threat and the fact we've got s keeper who can't catch the ball.
It could be a busy afternoon for Rodon and Struijk
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Sure he will go with Amps and Gruev after his QPR comments
Not for me but that his the way he wants to set up away
Not sure the other 2 sides choose a different-home and away set up
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I think the physical aspect of this fixture says that set peices will be Lutons main threat. Aaronson needs to be benched along with Farkes golden boy Meslier. James needs to be given time to recover, his form has dipped considerably. We must win the game and imo. Farke needs to actually come up with some sort of tactics and earn his corn....
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The Joseph substitution is as bad as the Tyler Robert’s under Bielsa.
Keep doing the same thing and expect different results????
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Away in Spain this weekend so I’ve got that dreaded moment of looking up the scores later on. Maybe by the time I check we will be top of the league again.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Gruev comes in for Rothwell.

Farke has bemoaned his safe defensive midfielder pairing more than once this season.

He's naturally safe and cautious.

So his default setting may be to go even safer.
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It seems the same fans who a couple of games ago were predicting over 100 points for the season now think we're busted flush. We're not of course and hopefully the fightback begins next Saturday at Luton.

One defeat in 20 games or something like that isn't actually that shabby.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 6:23 pm Wouldn't be surprised if Gruev comes in for Rothwell.

Farke has bemoaned his safe defensive midfielder pairing more than once this season.

He's naturally safe and cautious.

So his default setting may be to go even safer.
Can't play Ampadu with Gruev, it isolates Piroe.

Tanaka is a must start, he's a far superior centre mid to Rothwell

Ampadu doesn't look match sharp so 30 min off the bench seems indicated as it should have v Swansea. Gruev then starts..

Gnonto is a must start, has been all season really but at least he's fresh to see the season out
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Jammy 07 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:05 pm It seems the same fans who a couple of games ago were predicting over 100 points for the season now think we're busted flush. We're not of course and hopefully the fightback begins next Saturday at Luton.

One defeat in 20 games or something like that isn't actually that shabby.
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Amps / Grueyv is his favourite pairing in away Games
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:18 pm Can't play Ampadu with Gruev, it isolates Piroe.

Tanaka is a must start, he's a far superior centre mid to Rothwell

Ampadu doesn't look match sharp so 30 min off the bench seems indicated as it should have v Swansea. Gruev then starts..

Gnonto is a must start, has been all season really but at least he's fresh to see the season out
I'd agree.

But DF has said before he prefers Amps/Gruev away from home.

And he loves Aaronson's running about (not exact words but it's what he meant)

And I also think DJ needs a rest but Ramazani is pretty clearly miles from match sharp.
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Cjay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:09 pm I'd agree.

But DF has said before he prefers Amps/Gruev away from home.

And he loves Aaronson's running about (not exact words but it's what he meant)

And I also think DJ needs a rest but Ramazani is pretty clearly miles from match sharp.
He might have said it but it's hardly happened. Ampadu/Kamara ;last season till Struijkgot injured then Gruev/Kamara
This season, Amps has missed a lot of game time, as has Gruev, Amps also stood in for Struijk at times and I'd guess Rothwell/Tanaka is the most used pairing this season... and that's cost us a few points this season too
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Jammy 07 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:05 pm It seems the same fans who a couple of games ago were predicting over 100 points for the season now think we're busted flush. We're not of course and hopefully the fightback begins next Saturday at Luton.

One defeat in 20 games or something like that isn't actually that shabby.
Count me as one of those fans. Truly thought we’d go up after our Sunderland and SHU games. But the manager is reverting back to the same tactics and man management decisions that cost us last season. We know how this movie ends…
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We should really only drop points to Boro if we set up well and there's no reason we can't win that one ... so 19 points assuming farke gets it right.
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Why would we start with boring Gruev, are we going all defensive from the off !!!
We ought to be taking the game to them, not letting them come at us.
If things aren't working out after the first half, bring Gnonto on then, nt after 72 minutes, lets attack teams, lets get some shots in, lets show the opposition WE are the best team.
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Defo win game,aaronson dropped for me and as much as he is great for us amps if not 100% and meslier defo dropped even if just to get him thinking cos I am sure he thinks he is undroppable. I honestly think we are going down the same road as last season on the points we are getting ,but defo a must win game gnotto Tanaka and Rodwell if amps ain't up to it for farke to blame tanaka for 1 of the goals is pure stupidity imo.
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