The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 14th April) Bogle shines as Leeds edge closer to top flight

[Jammy 07]

Im sorted mate! Though replaced the old peculiar with a couple of jars of virtuous, Kirkstalls finest! Got the wife to administer the slap, she jumped at the chance - still seeing stars!

You were 100% correct to realise there's still a job to be done and remember most of the happy clappers on here were slitting their wrists a week ago

[BlackHillsPaul]

It was a good weekend for LUFC. Our win coupled with a Sheffield United loss have given us a 5 point cushion. Our focus now needs to be on WINNING the League. Not just promotion. Winning trophies matters. THAT is what we play for.

[Jammy 07]

It was a good weekend for LUFC. Our win coupled with a Sheffield United loss have given us a 5 point cushion. Our focus now needs to be on WINNING the League. Not just promotion. Winning trophies matters. THAT is what we play for.

Icing on the cake definitely but secondary to the primary goal as far as I'm concerned.

After promotion is secured then thoughts can turn to the title.

[GreennWhite]

Icing on the cake definitely but secondary to the primary goal as far as I'm concerned.

After promotion is secured then thoughts can turn to the title.

100% jammy, i havent the slightest interest in a tin pot trophy. Getting up is all that matters. If we go up even in second place i will be over the moon, if we go up as winners i will be over the moon, having a little trophy to wave around wont make it any more enjoyable.
The pleasure and enjoyment for me will come purely from seeing the fans and players enjoying their moment together.

[BlackHillsPaul]

100% jammy, i havent the slightest interest in a tin pot trophy. Getting up is all that matters. If we go up even in second place i will be over the moon, if we go up as winners i will be over the moon, having a little trophy to wave around wont make it any more enjoyable.
The pleasure and enjoyment for me will come purely from seeing the fans and players enjoying their moment together.

Perhaps there is a difference in the English and American mentality. But I definitely prefer to WIN trophies. And you can only win the things in front of you. Now, earning promotion is absolutely important. It's important to compete at the highest level possible. But winning things along the way sets a standard. I think you are wrong to view it as a "tin pot trophy". What happens after we earn promotion? Will you be happy with 20 years of mid-table finishes? Or will the goal be to WIN things?

[The Subhuman]

Perhaps there is a difference in the English and American mentality. But I definitely prefer to WIN trophies. And you can only win the things in front of you. Now, earning promotion is absolutely important. It's important to compete at the highest level possible. But winning things along the way sets a standard. I think you are wrong to view it as a "tin pot trophy". What happens after we earn promotion? Will you be happy with 20 years of mid-table finishes? Or will the goal be to WIN things?

So do I, second would be a major disappointment to me.... End of the day it's a trophy and something to show for the season if we're relegated again.

[WhiteRose]

100% jammy, i havent the slightest interest in a tin pot trophy. Getting up is all that matters. If we go up even in second place i will be over the moon, if we go up as winners i will be over the moon, having a little trophy to wave around wont make it any more enjoyable.
The pleasure and enjoyment for me will come purely from seeing the fans and players enjoying their moment together.

This is what football has been brought down to, conditioned to think that qualifying for something is actually winning - it’s nonsense, fans desperate to celebrate qualifying for a champions league place or playoff spot because actually winning anything has become all but impossible for most.

Of course we want to win the league, that’s what we play for, it’s not about waving a trophy around, it’s about being the best over a season and having pride in that. Premier league promotion whilst the biggest prize financially is not all it’s about at least for me.

[GreennWhite]

Perhaps there is a difference in the English and American mentality. But I definitely prefer to WIN trophies. And you can only win the things in front of you. Now, earning promotion is absolutely important. It's important to compete at the highest level possible. But winning things along the way sets a standard. I think you are wrong to view it as a "tin pot trophy". What happens after we earn promotion? Will you be happy with 20 years of mid-table finishes? Or will the goal be to WIN things?

Im not against winning trophies, of course they are nice to have. And there is still a very good chance we will do that.But sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture and say, you know what, we may not have got our hands on a trophy but we achieved our main priority and got promoted.
You cant always have everything our own way. If you dont get your hands on a trophy does it means the promotion isnt as good ? does it mean the fans, players, staff, owners dont get the same enjoyment ?
We set out with one thing in mind, to get promoted, if we win the league then great , that is a real bonus.
Promotion first at all costs.

[mentalcase]

100% jammy, i havent the slightest interest in a tin pot trophy. Getting up is all that matters. If we go up even in second place i will be over the moon, if we go up as winners i will be over the moon, having a little trophy to wave around wont make it any more enjoyable.
The pleasure and enjoyment for me will come purely from seeing the fans and players enjoying their moment together.

Agree with this, we'll celebrate 2nd like we've finished top anyway, of course 1st would be preferable, but getting promotion is the main concern, anything more is a bonus.
Monday could see us get promoted, imagine telling the fans to calm down because we haven't actually won the league, good luck with that, I'll be on the horse of the black prince in the city centre.

[The Subhuman]

This is what football has been brought down to, conditioned to think that qualifying for something is actually winning - it’s nonsense, fans desperate to celebrate qualifying for a champions league place or playoff spot because actually winning anything has become all but impossible for most.

Of course we want to win the league, that’s what we play for, it’s not about waving a trophy around, it’s about being the best over a season and having pride in that. Premier league promotion whilst the biggest prize financially is not all it’s about at least for me.

Excellent post

[BlackHillsPaul]

This is what football has been brought down to, conditioned to think that qualifying for something is actually winning - it’s nonsense, fans desperate to celebrate qualifying for a champions league place or playoff spot because actually winning anything has become all but impossible for most.

Of course we want to win the league, that’s what we play for, it’s not about waving a trophy around, it’s about being the best over a season and having pride in that. Premier league promotion whilst the biggest prize financially is not all it’s about at least for me.

Well said!!