Leeds United vs Brentford Match Thread

[1964white]

Boring 0-0 draws are not going to guarantee our safety its acceptable away but not at ER,all it takes is for the teams around us to find some form and we will be done.

I'm not sure how anyone can be happy with that performance at home.

It's Leeds ,its the tail end of the season and more often than not we tend to go to the edge of the cliff and mainly fall off.

We are drawing our way to safety.

You should be happy as you predicted us to lose, Tyzy.

[Jammy 07]

Brentford 7th in the table & unbeaten in twelve games were poorer than Leeds.

All the signs are there that if we can scrap our way to safety then next season we can be comfortably mid table with a couple of smart additions.

[Johnthewhite]

No problem with James coming on but it should have been Gnonto instead of an unfit Okafor...

Probably agree with that, Okafor must have shown something in training you would have thought
I thought James was OK in the time he had, certainly lifted the crowd which led to our best spell in the match by far. In hindsight the wingers should probably have been given longer to make an impact.
Lots of good debate on here about last night's match, but we do need to keep sight of the ultimate pre-season target which was, to stay up nothing more nothing less and that is what the money men (the people that matter) will judge DF on, not if we all left last night feeling entertained

[Sean_Nile]

What a load of scutter and a waste of your own time. People are allowed have opinions that don't line up with your view.

When you are hitting the target you catch a lot of flak.

[The Subhuman]

Probably agree with that, Okafor must have shown something in training you would have thought
I thought James was OK in the time he had, certainly lifted the crowd which led to our best spell in the match by far. In hindsight the wingers should probably have been given longer to make an impact.
Lots of good debate on here about last night's match, but we do need to keep sight of the ultimate pre-season target which was, to stay up nothing more nothing less and that is what the money men (the people that matter) will judge DF on, not if we all left last night feeling entertained

My expectations have increased with the realisation it's a weaker division and two teams self destructed early, which hadn't happened the previous three seasons. So for most of the season we've been playing for the final relegation place

Pre season I may have been happy with a: get a point at West Ham and stay up, but I think we should be safe by now. Somewhere near Sunderland and Palace, not Forest and West Ham

Anyone who thinks we're nailed on to beat Burnley/Wolves and West Ham final game if we need to is going to be in for a shock imo.. We might win but it's not a sure thing and two losses there are just as likely the way we're playing

Farke changed things up last season, didn't the season before. Lets see which way he goes this season..

Again for the sake of clarity I'd rather be in our position than Burnley, Wolves and Forest, I'll hold fire on West Ham, they need to get beaten today. if they win I think I might prefer their position even if it's a couple of points worse off.

Forest or Spurs are more likely to go down than us as it stands

[The Subhuman]

I do think form is massively importants and ours ain't great.. If we were looking from the outside and dispassionately I think most neutrals would say we're definitely in the mix for 18th and from where we were 10 games ago we shouldn't be

[Orange Box]

We are drawing our way to safety.

You should be happy as you predicted us to lose, Tyzy.

In case you wondered where I got to - only when I looked at the gate number did I realise I was actually in the West Stand, not the Kop. Please pass on my apologies to BB, I’m sure he was gutted at missing me.

[DDB220]

So if we do stay up, is it because we deserved to, or because the other teams let themselves down. ? IMO we are where we deserve to be in the league.

Although I struggle to understand the rationale that we were written off before the season started by a lot of posters and now we should be doing a lot better.

There are many head scratching moments for me with regards to set up and selections, but I am not inclined to suggest - if Farke had selected X or Y we would have had a better outcome. Simply because it is nothing more than speculation.

It is likely to be tight at the bottom until the last game of the season with the way things are going. If we fail to stay up then Farke has failed, there is no sugar coating any other outcome.

[whiteinfrance]

Your obsession with other posters on here is so weird.

Probably 60-70% of that post is directed at the opinions of other people

He's right though. I get sick of the perpetual negativity , game after game, from the same people.

[WhiteRose]

He's right though. I get sick of the perpetual negativity , game after game, from the same people.

It’s just howling at the moon and we all know that, none of it makes any difference. negative, positive or indifferent it all has the same impact.

[whiteinfrance]

Probably the 3 most likely players to play a creative pass didn't get on the pitch.

Gnonto, Piroe and Buonanotte.

I just hope the draws don't cost us.

Brentford had 7 players missing, just feels like we could have done more imo.

It's concerning how little we create atm, wasn't our last open play goal Chelsea which was a defensive error?

Buonanotte's heart is probably not in the project of playing for Leeds, and Farke may have seen this.

Also , from the little we've seen of him. he has looked very poor.

[Cjay]

He's right though. I get sick of the perpetual negativity , game after game, from the same people.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

As Weasel said you can ignore it.

Doesn't require War and Peace.

[Cjay]

Buonanotte's heart is probably not in the project of playing for Leeds, and Farke may have seen this.

Also , from the little we've seen of him. he has looked very poor.

Some players require the arm around the shoulder stuff etc

Besides that Farke must have signed off on the deal.

Why? We knew Buonanotte hadn't played for ages, was lively not fit

If he had no intention of giving him time why waste money

[weasel]

I wonder what Daniel Farke saw in training in Noah Okafor or imagined what he would be able to do in the match when he was brought on in the second half. Did he think the player was fit enough, sharp enough and had shown enough in training that he was match ready?

Obviously DF thought Okafor was the best option he had on the bench. Must have done otherwise why bring him on as the first option? In the cold light of day does he reflect and ask himself if that was the best decision? Will he minded to so the same again in the next match or even start with Okafor?

I am no expert but what I saw is a big lump that came on, seemed to play at half pace and did............nothing noteworthy in the 25 minutes or so he was on the pitch. He looked nowhere near fit or ready for a competetive match or a match in which we are scrapping in a relegation dogfight. NO did less than the ineffective Brendan Aaronson but at least the latter ran around a lot.

Noah has the ability to use his pace to create that yard of space, like when he shimmied and got a shot in. Yes the shot was poor but it is the ability to create the opening for himself that I think is what Farke was looking for and the potential for him to use his pace to do what James was doing on the other side. If that shot goes in then it is a masterstroke of a change. Small margins and who knows what might have happened if Gnonto or Piroe cam on instead - they could have won the game, they could have done nothing. We did,though, in our best run of the season have Okafor alongside DCL and even though Okafor looked anonymous a lot of times in those games there was always the threat with his pace.

Chances are that he will start in the cup game and build up his match sharpness and then hopefully be fully up to speed for the next league match in 3 weeks time.

[Madron]

He's right though. I get sick of the perpetual negativity , game after game, from the same people.

Same every week from the same posters on match thread. Makes me wonder why they bother.
Before yesterdays game someone said they rather we lose than only draw . Thats some screwed up thinking.

[Madron]

Boring 0-0 draws are not going to guarantee our safety its acceptable away but not at ER,all it takes is for the teams around us to find some form and we will be done.

I'm not sure how anyone can be happy with that performance at home.

It's Leeds ,its the tail end of the season and more often than not we tend to go to the edge of the cliff and mainly fall off.

Performance means f**k all to me.
Only thing that matters is 17th place.

[weasel]

Brentford 7th in the table & unbeaten in twelve games were poorer than Leeds.

I think many of our fans are guilty of underestimating the opposition and thinking we just have to turn up to win. Brentford, like you say, are in 7th and obviously have a way of playing that works for them. Same with Sunderland and we see them as the team we beat in the championship, expect to simply roll them over but again they have found a way that works for them, not always pretty but seems to work, they have just beaten Newcastle after being behind. Every team in the league is decent, no teams that thoroughyl awful, unlike last season. Wolves are something like 4th in the form table. Burnley have rarely been a pushover.

We have to claw and fight our way to a points total that will keep us up - and that seems to be what we are doing. Would be great to grab a couple of stress free easy wins and make ourselves save but unlikely any team will simply hand us those wins - no matter how bad a teram our fanbase thinks they are.

[Jaydog]

Same every week from the same posters on match thread. Makes me wonder why they bother.
Before yesterdays game someone said they rather we lose than only draw . Thats some screwed up thinking.

Rather lose than draw.
Who was that?
Bizarre comment of the week award goes to….?
By definition if you follow that through for the whole season then we are already relegated

[1964white]

Bijol the MOTM imo!

[Jaydog]

I wonder if we stay up and say in 5 seasons we are still mid to low table mediocrity will fans have the stomach for it generally.
Probably not is my guess.
New stadium & a more assured set up of the football club will only create a bigger desire for success and therefore bigger disappointment & toy throwing.