The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 5th August) Marseille lower asking price on Paixao

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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 5th August, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...

Marseille lower asking price on Paixao

French publication L’Equipe has reported a sudden shift in Marseille’s stance on the valuation of Brazilian forward Igor Paixao. After initially demanding a €47m-plus (£40m) fee for the versatile attacker, the Ligue 1 side is now said to be open to a €35m (£30m) asking price, a figure that suddenly looks within reach for Leeds, who have been tracking the player since last summer.

The change of heart is rooted in Marseille’s dire financial picture. Over the last three seasons, the club has accumulated €157 million in net losses, driven by ballooning wage bills, a steep decline in domestic broadcasting revenue and a disastrous performance on the pitch last season. Those losses have triggered heavy regulatory sanctions, a domestic transfer embargo and a suspended ban from European competition, forcing the Phocaeans to reassess their asset‑sale strategy and pursue more realistic offers for their prized assets.

Paixao, who primarily operates as an inverted left‑winger but can also slot in on the right flank or as an attacking No 10, offers Leeds a blend of creativity, direct running and tactical flexibility. His profile contrasts with that of Noah Okafor, the Swiss international who also favours the left‑wing inverted role but brings a different blend of pace, physicality and goal‑scoring instinct. With only one starting berth available on the left flank, Leeds would face a clear positional dilemma should they secure Paixao’s signature.

If the deal goes through, the club may need to reassess Okafor’s future. While both players can cover other positions in an emergency, neither is seen as a long‑term solution away from the wing. Consequently, Leeds might look to move Okafor on, either via a permanent sale or a loan, to fund the Paixao transfer and maintain squad balance. The Swiss International made his feelings perfectly clear during the World Cup that he doesn't want to be sat on the bench. If Leeds can get their money back (circa £18m), the outlay for Paixao becomes much more achievable.




Leeds stuck in queue to sign Trafford

Leeds United find themselves in a holding pattern as they await the official unveiling of record‑breaking acquisition, goalkeeper James Trafford. The deal hinges on a chain of transfers that begins with Manchester City’s pursuit of Marseille shot‑stopper Gerónimo Rulli. City’s interest in the French international would, if successful, would clear the way for Leeds to sign the England shot-stopper. In turn, that move would pave the way for Lucas Perri to complete his season‑long switch to Serie A side Torino, thereby clearing the final administrative hurdle for the Trafford signing.

City manager Enzo Marésca addressed the situation at Tuesday’s press conference, stating, “There are no updates yet. James [Trafford] is still a Manchester City player, and [Geronimo] Rulli is still a Marseille player. So we’re going to wait in the next days…”. His remarks underscore the delicate, multi‑club negotiations underway, leaving Leeds fans eagerly watching for the moment when the queue finally moves and Trafford can be presented as the club’s new record signing.




Should Leeds allow Ramazani to join Valencia on the cheap

Uncertainty surrounds the future of Largie Ramazani as the winger continues to train away from Thorp Arch, opting not to report back to England in his pursuit of a summer exit. Ramazani, who spent the 2025/26 campaign on loan at the Mestalla, remains a top priority for Valencia manager Carlos Corberán to bolster the club's right wing. While Valencia are closely monitoring the player’s situation and are prepared to wait until the final stretch of the transfer window in hopes that Leeds’ financial demands will soften, their tight budget means they would ideally prefer another temporary deal. Leeds, however, are standing firm. Daniel Farke left Ramazani entirely out of his pre-season preparations and is refusing to entertain another loan arrangement.

Instead, Leeds are demanding a permanent transfer, holding out for a fee between £8.4 million (€10m) and £10.1 million (€12m) to fully recoup their initial investment in the player. As the transfer deadline approaches, a standoff persists between the player's desire to return to Spain and his parent club's valuation. Valencia are playing on the fact that Ramazani is not happy at Leeds and want to take advantage. It's a tactic Real Betis used several years ago to sign Marc Roca and Diego Llorente for much lower fees than their true value. Will Leeds hold firm, or relent to the pressure?




Igor Paixao, James Trafford, Largie Ramazani
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I really hope the club tells Valencia to do one. I’d keep Rama rather than let another Spanish club have our pants down.

And I don’t think it’ll be necessary, Rama is too good not to be saleable elsewhere.
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Piaxo might be worth a punt @ £25m but I can't see that left wing position as a priority for us. We have much bigger fish to fry........

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OM nave hired a British firm to get theikr spending down and they're going to sell off cheaper than agents want. AND take part of the agents fee as their payment.

No way are we in a queue, never heard anything so stupid.. This is City's second keeper, and they're basically in the position to just take any keeper they want.. My guess is they're unsure they don't want Trafford to be their number one. The fans do

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We shoot ourselves in the foot regarding talent don't we, let him go cheap, the longer he stays away the further his value falls. We decided he was s**t so we're paying for that
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How many times have we seen these lengthy transfer sagas fall through - whilst I’d not say I’m worried I would not be surprised if Trafford stayed at city.
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 9:35 am OM nave hired a British firm to get theikr spending down and they're going to sell off cheaper than agents want. AND take part of the agents fee as their payment.

No way are we in a queue, never heard anything so stupid.. This is City's second keeper, and they're basically in the position to just take any keeper they want.. My guess is they're unsure they don't want Trafford to be their number one. The fans do

Since when did football player sales become like house sale chains?
Well if it turns out City decide he’s their number 1 then thats a massive number 2 in my book.
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WhiteRose wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 9:45 am How many times have we seen these lengthy transfer sagas fall through - whilst I’d not say I’m worried I would not be surprised if Trafford stayed at city.
I'd suggest the reason we're holding on to Perri is because there is a very real chance it does fall through, maybe 25%. 17 days till kick off. It's been around 14 days since we moved for Trafford and maybe 12 since, I'm assuming, a gentleman's agreement was reached
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Jaydog wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 9:48 am Well if it turns out City decide he’s their number 1 then thats a massive number 2 in my book.
Be as big a waste of everyones time as ever existed.
Afetr watching Donnarumma last season and knowing most peoples thought that Trafford will be a world class keeper with elite ditribution skills (the very template City want in a keeper) I was surprised they sold him.

Said it before if you have two top keepers you have no keeper..to paraphrase John Madden.
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 9:35 am OM nave hired a British firm to get theikr spending down and they're going to sell off cheaper than agents want. AND take part of the agents fee as their payment.

No way are we in a queue, never heard anything so stupid.. This is City's second keeper, and they're basically in the position to just take any keeper they want.. My guess is they're unsure they don't want Trafford to be their number one. The fans do

Since when did football player sales become like house sale chains?
Yes, lower down the league system I could see a chain being necessary at times, but not for moneybags Man City.
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When does Trafford get back from his holiday after his World Cup jaunt ? Seems to me that some people want to convince themselves there's an issue when a 23 year old wants to milk every last minute of his holidays . Ramazzani looks like he's playing along with his prospective Spanish club in the effort to save peanuts on the deal which is indicative of his attitude just like Llorente and Roca . I would be concerned that Paixao may be a similar type of character but then it's hard to judge when these rumours and stories are largely confabulated.
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ruttermania wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 11:46 am When does Trafford get back from his holiday after his World Cup jaunt ? Seems to me that some people want to convince themselves there's an issue when a 23 year old wants to milk every last minute of his holidays . Ramazzani looks like he's playing along with his prospective Spanish club in the effort to save peanuts on the deal which is indicative of his attitude just like Llorente and Roca . I would be concerned that Paixao may be a similar type of character but then it's hard to judge when these rumours and stories are largely confabulated.
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ruttermania wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 11:46 am When does Trafford get back from his holiday after his World Cup jaunt ? Seems to me that some people want to convince themselves there's an issue when a 23 year old wants to milk every last minute of his holidays . Ramazzani looks like he's playing along with his prospective Spanish club in the effort to save peanuts on the deal which is indicative of his attitude just like Llorente and Roca . I would be concerned that Paixao may be a similar type of character but then it's hard to judge when these rumours and stories are largely confabulated.
Especially when you're doing the confabulation...right?
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Ive seen it said that we shouldn’t be trying to sign Paixoa because he turned us down last season. That’s nonsense ( even though I’m guilty of saying it myself). No player is invested in any club until that club actually signs him and starts paying his wage. Last year Marseille must have offered him a better deal than us, which is why he chose them over us. My guess is if we offer him a better deal he’ll be equally keen to play for is. It’s how modern football works, simple as.
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I did accidentally omit a 'not' from one post but I hardly think that amounts to confabulation.
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ruttermania wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 2:17 pm I did accidentally omit a 'not' from one post but I hardly think that amounts to confabulation.
Confabulation is a memory error where the brain unconsciously creates false, distorted, or imagined information to fill gaps in memory - I do that every morning :shock:
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Igor is sloppy seconds, and besides we don't do wingers anymore. They are an outdated concept that don't fit into Farke's plans
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Ellandback1 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 2:38 pm Confabulation is a memory error where the brain unconsciously creates false, distorted, or imagined information to fill gaps in memory - I do that every morning :shock:
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The Subhuman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2026 9:54 am I'd suggest the reason we're holding on to Perri is because there is a very real chance it does fall through, maybe 25%. 17 days till kick off. It's been around 14 days since we moved for Trafford and maybe 12 since, I'm assuming, a gentleman's agreement was reached
Makes sense to keep hold of Perri even if there is a 0.0000001% chance of the deal not being completed. If we'd had a back-up keeper in place, rather than just Cairns, then we'd have let him go. Hardly sensible to let him go and then something happens and we are scrambling around for a keeper, probably 2.

I would have thought everything has been agreed bwteen us, City and Trafford and similarly everything has been sorted between us, Torino and Perri (and maybe Torino are also getting shut of a keeper too and so on, and so on). It is just a case of, like a house buying chain, that we are all waiting till City get their new signing done. Maybe we'd have pushed it more if JT wasn't still in the enforced holiday period.
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