Championship/FL Chat 26/27

[weasel]

Both West Ham & Burnley winless and finding the championship tough as they sit in the bottom six.

Stop it with the lies. As you know, from Cjay the Oracle, relegated teams bounce back up every time with record amounts of points. Nuno, the best manager in the world will take them back up.

If either team struggles fear not as there are hundreds of managers that they could turn to, and they are all better than Farke.

[Cjay]

Stop it with the lies. As you know, from Cjay the Oracle, relegated teams bounce back up every time with record amounts of points. Nuno, the best manager in the world will take them back up.

If either team struggles fear not as there are hundreds of managers that they could turn to, and they are all better than Farke.

West Ham have the same amount of points as we had in the first season and Burnley only 1 less.

So basically performing absolute miracles aren't they?

Besides season doesn't start till September/October (delete when it suits)

[1964white]

West Ham have the same amount of points as we had in the first season and Burnley only 1 less.

So basically performing absolute miracles aren't they?

Besides season doesn't start till September/October (delete when it suits)

We didn't have the firepower of Bowen, Castellanos, Engels, Piroe & Solomon, especially as Sinisterra & Gnonto had gone on strike.

Unlike Nuno, Farke had to start the season with the likes of an ageing Ayling, Shackleton, Poveda & some raw youngsters.

[weasel]

We didn't have the firepower of Bowen, Castellanos, Engels, Piroe & Solomon, especially as Sinisterra & Gnonto had gone on strike.

Unlike Nuno, Farke had to start the season with the likes of an ageing Ayling, Shackleton, Poveda & some raw youngsters.

Indeed. We started season 1 in turmoil, West Ham have started with a very good line-up, same manager who knows all the players, had reasonable momentum at the end of last season - having made a bit of a fight of things rather than how we sunk without a trace.

Even season 2 we were again in a state of flux early doors with Summerville and Gray having gone, Rutter leaving too and an unfit Solomon yet to really fire.

Still though Cjay will make excuses for his hero Nuno and the turgid football that his team plays which is of course much nicer to watch than the Cjay coined Ploddyball.

[Cjay]

We didn't have the firepower of Bowen, Castellanos, Engels, Piroe & Solomon, especially as Sinisterra & Gnonto had gone on strike.

Unlike Nuno, Farke had to start the season with the likes of an ageing Ayling, Shackleton, Poveda & some raw youngsters.

Gnonto, Summerville, Rutter, Gray, Amps etc all started.

Like most teams we didn't have our ideal squad ro start with.

Neither do Wet Spam.

I still expect West Ham to get promoted regardless lead by JP.

[1964white]

Gnonto, Summerville, Rutter, Gray, Amps etc all started.

Like most teams we didn't have our ideal squad ro start with.

Neither do Wet Spam.

I still expect West Ham to get promoted regardless lead by JP.

Gnonto went on strike.

Gray's debut season & was thrown in at RB as Ayling was looking past his sell-by-date.

Rutter's didn't start until our fourth game in at Ipswich.

[1964white]

[weasel]

Gnonto, Summerville, Rutter, Gray, Amps etc all started.

Like most teams we didn't have our ideal squad ro start with.

Neither do Wet Spam.

I still expect West Ham to get promoted regardless lead by JP.

Amps, his first season with a permanent club after 3 seasons of being loaned out by Chelsea and 3 relegations. Hardly a guarantee that he would be as good as he has been for us.

Gray, a young 16 or 17 year old midfielder being asked to play right back.

Rutter, a guy who had bombed for us in the prem and been ridiculed by Big Sam. No one knew what he was going to be like or whether we had a busted flush on our hands. Took till the Ipswich game before we saw any real glimpse of what he could do.

Gnonto - like 64 says was looking to force a move and could easily have been petulant, bad attitude etc. Also a young talent that wasn't used to starting regularly even in the swiss league.

Summerville - similar to Gnonto had shown flashes but by no means the finished article.

We were in far more of a mess than West Ham are.

[PhoenixUnited]

Does not matter which League. Takes weeks for teams to settle and sort themselves out - if ever they are going to. The lie of the land, for me anyways, begins to emerge at the end of October, beginning of November

[Cjay]

Gnonto went on strike.

Gray's debut season & was thrown in at RB as Ayling was looking past his sell-by-date.

Rutter's didn't start until our fourth game in at Ipswich.

DF choose to use Gray as a full back, his choice.

We had people like Gelhardt who went on to show he was top class at Championship level and Cresswell who went on to shine in France who DF choose not to use.

Yes we had issues like all relegated teams but wasn't the disaster people go on about.

[Cjay]

Amps, his first season with a permanent club after 3 seasons of being loaned out by Chelsea and 3 relegations. Hardly a guarantee that he would be as good as he has been for us.

Gray, a young 16 or 17 year old midfielder being asked to play right back.

Rutter, a guy who had bombed for us in the prem and been ridiculed by Big Sam. No one knew what he was going to be like or whether we had a busted flush on our hands. Took till the Ipswich game before we saw any real glimpse of what he could do.

Gnonto - like 64 says was looking to force a move and could easily have been petulant, bad attitude etc. Also a young talent that wasn't used to starting regularly even in the swiss league.

Summerville - similar to Gnonto had shown flashes but by no means the finished article.

We were in far more of a mess than West Ham are.

We had plenty of top talent for a Championship team many of whom had shown it before or at higher levels.

It wasn't a poor us story.

You can pick holes in the cv of all Championship players, that's why they are in the Championship

Regarding turmoil that's normal.

West Ham have probably lost 10 first team players, same for Burnley and Wolves.

It's the downside of relegation.

We didn't cope with it as well as some other teams have early on.

Improved later but still weren't good enough.

And losing 3 times to Russell Martin of all people

Fortunately got it right the following season

[Jammy 07]

And losing 3 times to Russell Martin of all people

That Sir is a low blow

[1964white]

Amps, his first season with a permanent club after 3 seasons of being loaned out by Chelsea and 3 relegations. Hardly a guarantee that he would be as good as he has been for us.

Gray, a young 16 or 17 year old midfielder being asked to play right back.

Rutter, a guy who had bombed for us in the prem and been ridiculed by Big Sam. No one knew what he was going to be like or whether we had a busted flush on our hands. Took till the Ipswich game before we saw any real glimpse of what he could do.

Gnonto - like 64 says was looking to force a move and could easily have been petulant, bad attitude etc. Also a young talent that wasn't used to starting regularly even in the swiss league.

Summerville - similar to Gnonto had shown flashes but by no means the finished article.

We were in far more of a mess than West Ham are.

Sinisterra also went on strike.

Even Rodon didn't make his debut until four games into the season.

That first month cost us vital points, leaving Leicester & Ipswich to steal a march on us

[PhoenixUnited]

Sinisterra also went on strike.

Even Rodon didn't make his debut until four games into the season.

That first month cost us vital points, leaving Leicester & Ipswich to steal a march on us

Leicester

[1964white]

Leicester

Yes, how the mighty have fallen.

[Cjay]

Heckygone

[Cjay]

The Top (Promotion Race)

Three-Way Tie: West Ham, Swansea, and West Brom are tied for 1st place with 14 points.Leader: West Ham takes the top spot because they have scored more goals (+11 goal difference).Chasers: Middlesbrough is just 1 point behind with 13 points and a game in hand.

Win over Sheffield United today means Wolves go joint top if they win their game in hand

The Bottom (Relegation Danger)

Bottom Three: Derby County (4 points), Preston (3 points), and Burnley (3 points) are currently in the relegation positions.Last Place: Burnley sits at the absolute bottom due to a poor goal difference (-8).

[1964white]

Burnley have already conceded 16 goals, the same amount in all the season when James Trafford was between the sticks.