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Good Morning. It's Tuesday 15th September, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...

Leeds move third after blistering performance

There are victories that earn you three points, and then there are victories that make the rest of the Premier League sit up and take notice; last night we saw the latter. Under the Elland Road lights, Daniel Farke’s side did not simply beat Newcastle, they overwhelmed them, and produced the sort of performance that makes you wonder just how high the ceiling might be for Leeds United this season. The Whites dominated the first half-hour but had little to show for their efforts.

The game exploded into life in the 32nd minute, when Ao Tanaka’s effort from the edge of the area took a double deflection and left Lukas Horníček with no chance. Once they had breached the goal, the floodgates opened. Less than three minutes later it was 2-0. Jayden Bogle was credited with the second after Dominic Calvert-Lewin rose highest in the Newcastle penalty area, and powered his header past Hornicek.

Elland Road was rocking from the rafters, but then came the killer. Deep into first-half stoppage time, the former Toffee made it 3-0, finishing calmly across goal like it was a pre-season game. Remarkably, it was already the striker’s eighth career goal against Newcastle, the same number Harvey Barnes has scored against Leeds. With James Trafford between the sticks for the home side, though, the former Leicester City man never looked like adding to his tally.

Leeds were not interested in simply protecting their lead. On 59 minutes, Noah Okafor made it 4-0, finishing another Leeds attack and turning what had already been an excellent night into a demolition. Bazoumana Touré eventually pulled one back in the 90th minute, but nobody inside Elland Road particularly cared. The statistics underline how impressive Leeds had been. They finished with 15 shots to Newcastle’s seven, edged possession 51%-49%, and produced an expected-goals figure of 1.96 compared with Newcastle’s 0.77. More importantly, they looked like the stronger, quicker and hungrier side.




Leeds no longer just 'hard to beat'

Last season was about survival. Farke stumbled on a formula that made Leeds extremely difficult to beat, and the physicality and work-rate of his side became its greatest strengths. Now we are beginning to see something else. The aggression, running and willingness to compete for every loose ball are still there, but there is considerably more quality attached to them. Farke also had Harry Wilson, Brenden Aaronson, Lucas Nmecha, Daniel James and Melvin Bard available from the bench. That is depth Leeds have simply never possessed since the Ridsdale era.

There was something else significant about the Newcastle performance that we did not see last season, Leeds looked as though they expected to beat them. Lets not get ahead of ourselves; nobody needs to start booking European away trips just yet, four matches is four matches but the Elland Road faithful are entitled to enjoy what they are seeing. Eight points from four games. Unbeaten. Third in the Premier League. Four goals against Newcastle.

Perhaps most encouragingly, it does not feel as though Leeds have scraped their way there. There appears to be a proper Premier League side developing. Last season we asked whether Leeds had enough to survive. After watching them dismantle Newcastle 4-1, the question is beginning to change. Just how good could this Leeds United side actually be?




Newcastle United, Daniel Farke, Ao Tanaka, Jayden Bogle, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Noah Okafor
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Can’t get won’t get carried away, it’s LUFC after all.

Had a read of a barcodes forum. One member summed it up for me. “Team of brothers” he said.
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VinnysTattoo wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 8:09 am Can’t get won’t get carried away, it’s LUFC after all.

Had a read of a barcodes forum. One member summed it up for me. “Team of brothers” he said.
👍🏻 Sums last night’s performance up perfectly.
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VinnysTattoo wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 8:09 am Can’t get won’t get carried away, it’s LUFC after all.

Had a read of a barcodes forum. One member summed it up for me. “Team of brothers” he said.
The most uder appreciated aspect of Farke's management skills for me - especially when some fans moan about certain players who Farke has sold (or allowed to leave). Very hard to keep 20+ players all happy - competiive but still friends. Why bringing Dan James on or Longstaff on rather than Behayo is necessary as it keeps key members of the squad feeling valued.

One player not buying in can spread like cancer in the dressing room - and I'm not even talking about a player being deliberately disruptive.
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Everything in the XG stats says we are fully entitled to be where we are atm. If stats are your thing then you are like a pig in s…
Cjay you should be ecstatic.
Not saying you’re a pig…
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weasel wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 8:33 am The most uder appreciated aspect of Farke's management skills for me - especially when some fans moan about certain players who Farke has sold (or allowed to leave). Very hard to keep 20+ players all happy - competiive but still friends. Why bringing Dan James on or Longstaff on rather than Behayo is necessary as it keeps key members of the squad feeling valued.

One player not buying in can spread like cancer in the dressing room - and I'm not even talking about a player being deliberately disruptive.
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weasel wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 8:33 am The most uder appreciated aspect of Farke's management skills for me - especially when some fans moan about certain players who Farke has sold (or allowed to leave). Very hard to keep 20+ players all happy - competiive but still friends. Why bringing Dan James on or Longstaff on rather than Behayo is necessary as it keeps key members of the squad feeling valued.

One player not buying in can spread like cancer in the dressing room - and I'm not even talking about a player being deliberately disruptive.
As you say Farke deserves all he credit in the world for the culture he's created at the club and I've no doubt that once Behayo gets his opportunity he'll be fully supported by Farke and all the players to succeed. First however a good few weeks training with the squad will do him no harm whatsoever.
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Jaydog wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 10:01 am Everything in the XG stats says we are fully entitled to be where we are atm. If stats are your thing then you are like a pig in s…
Cjay you should be ecstatic.
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I'd go with pleased . . . . . . . .


But I doubt xG says we should be 3rd if you'd like me to be pedantic :roflmao:

Forest probably should have been a draw
Brighton a draw
Brentford defeat
Newcastle win

Somewhere between 13-7th I'd think :)
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Leeds rarely get the rub of the green, so its about time we get a bit of luck. Tanaka's shot that took the double deflection was hilarious, especially when you consider just how lucky they were back in January to beat us 4-3 when we were 3-2 up in injury time. How on earth the ref gave 15 mins of injury time, I'll never know.
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Ellandback1 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 1:11 pm Leeds rarely get the rub of the green, so its about time we get a bit of luck. Tanaka's shot that took the double deflection was hilarious, especially when you consider just how lucky they were back in January to beat us 4-3 when we were 3-2 up in injury time. How on earth the ref gave 15 mins of injury time, I'll never know.

Thought we weren't going to after he ignored that handball
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Cjay wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 11:16 am I'd go with pleased . . . . . . . .


But I doubt xG says we should be 3rd if you'd like me to be pedantic :roflmao:

Forest probably should have been a draw
Brighton a draw
Brentford defeat
Newcastle win

Somewhere between 13-7th I'd think :)
The best I found said 8th and that we had 2 points more than expected.
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Cjay wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 11:16 am I'd go with pleased . . . . . . . .


But I doubt xG says we should be 3rd if you'd like me to be pedantic :roflmao:

Forest probably should have been a draw
Brighton a draw
Brentford defeat
Newcastle win

Somewhere between 13-7th I'd think :)
That's why buying players that are better than xg in certain positions, especially keeper, make sense. In the prior 3 matches Trafford outperformed the xg and at Burnley (in the championship) he vastly outperformed it.

Tottenham had great success which was largely due to Kane & Son being clinical - remember the last match of Bielsa's reign where we lost 4-0 to Spurs but had more shots than them.

The skill in recruting comes down to ascertaining whether they outperformed one season and as such are likely to then have a poor season as they regress to the norm or are they able to continually outperform their xg, such as Kane being clinical as opposed to a DCL or Ollie Watkins. But then you also have to factor in other stuff - take Andy Cole who was poor at converting chances but was great at being in the right place so got lots of chances. So Cole, despite a low conversion rate and performing badly against xg would still likely score as many, or more, than someone that was clinical but wasn't as good at getting on the end of chances.
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I don't get all the fuss around having to see Bahoya get on the pitch. When he is good and ready then it will happen. No one on here knows exactly what's going on with him so we have to trust Farke and he will give Bahoya his time when he is ready.
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Ellandback1 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 10:58 am #FreeBehayo
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Yaboyya? You sure?
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Bahoya is just a kid. And there is nothing in his CV that say he will come in and score goals. He's never scored more than 3 in a top flight season. Personally, I think we paid WAY too much money for him. So management must see him as a project. And like Georginio, they will take their time with him.
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Ellandback1 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 1:11 pm Leeds rarely get the rub of the green, so its about time we get a bit of luck. Tanaka's shot that took the double deflection was hilarious, especially when you consider just how lucky they were back in January to beat us 4-3 when we were 3-2 up in injury time. How on earth the ref gave 15 mins of injury time, I'll never know.
10 was initially added on (10 minimum not maximum) for subs, goals, var checks and the Schar injury, during those 10 minutes there were 3 subs, 2 goals , one which was a penalty with a var review , the 15 minutes was totally warranted in that match
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BlackHillsPaul wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 5:42 pm Bahoya is just a kid. And there is nothing in his CV that say he will come in and score goals. He's never scored more than 3 in a top flight season. Personally, I think we paid WAY too much money for him. So management must see him as a project. And like Georginio, they will take their time with him.
We haven't paid anything for him, yet. Presumably the obligation is baded around either matches or minutes played. As such it seems wise for Farke to fully assess him before he starts giving him appearances and minutes.

We saw the situation with Villa last season where Harvey Elliott played 9 games and then Villa stopped playing him as 10 matches triggered the boligation to buy and they thought he wasn't worth it.

So the ball appears to be very much in our court with Bahoya. If Farke decides he is good enough then he earns the appearances and we sign him. If Farke doesn't think he is worth it then we don't play him. Why rush those minutes/appearances now and then we get to the point where we are not quite sure but we can't play him as it would trigger the obligation? Better for both him, and the club, that he gets to the point where he can do himself justice on the pitch rather than him say making 9 five minute appearances where he hardly gets a touch of the ball and we then don't play him again.
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weasel wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2026 7:36 pm We haven't paid anything for him, yet. Presumably the obligation is baded around either matches or minutes played. As such it seems wise for Farke to fully assess him before he starts giving him appearances and minutes.

We saw the situation with Villa last season where Harvey Elliott played 9 games and then Villa stopped playing him as 10 matches triggered the boligation to buy and they thought he wasn't worth it.

So the ball appears to be very much in our court with Bahoya. If Farke decides he is good enough then he earns the appearances and we sign him. If Farke doesn't think he is worth it then we don't play him. Why rush those minutes/appearances now and then we get to the point where we are not quite sure but we can't play him as it would trigger the obligation? Better for both him, and the club, that he gets to the point where he can do himself justice on the pitch rather than him say making 9 five minute appearances where he hardly gets a touch of the ball and we then don't play him again.
Well yes the "option or obligation", we don't really know which, is deferred. This season we got him on a loan fee of £1.7 million. I should have been more clear. But that's a LOT of scratch for a non-obligatory loan. Seems more like a down payment to me.
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