Grayson sacked (Confirmed)

[The Subhuman]

You were clearly working up to it.

There's no stopping you now!

I'm considering posting again....

[Armleywhite]

I wish Simon all the best!

Watch him do really well at a club who's chairman has ambition and a Transfer Budget greater than a 12 year old's lunch money.

Spot on!!

[dezzy]

We have got talent in this squad, Grayson had lost the dressing room and the results showed this. Bates needs to sit down and get in a tough manager who will drill the defence and up the work rate all over the pitch. Even if we had no quality in the squad a decent manager should be able to get the team playing with a structure, with players knowing what they should be doing, add to this a motivated Snoddy Clayton Delph etc the Leeds job should be an attractive prospect to decent managers even with Bates at the helm.
This is a chance to inject some positivity back into Elland Road!! Lets get behind the team and the new manager and push on!! Id like to thank Grayson for all he has done at Leeds and wish him the best in the future.
MOT

[Drs.Dad]

Simon Grayson is a scapegoat for the real villains of the piece, Ken Bates and Shaun Harvey. The whole business of not giving SG any funds to work with was surely only about keeping us out of the Premiership until certain time limits expired. Now that one of those is up before next season, Evil Santa is all for getting us up to the top, but still without spending. He knows that once we get back to the Prem, we MUST be a prime target for takeover, and if we do it without spending, then his own personal profit margin is maximised.
I'm so sorry to see SG go, I rated him, but something had to change! There is no way Bates was going to go, they couldn't sack the players and replace them, so it had to be the manager and coaches. I sincerely hope we can get a manager in who can work with our current squad of players (hell, he has to, it's too late to buy anyone!), and just freshen things up. I am convinced we have a good squad, with good players who can do the job. We have played some spectacular football in patches this season, so we know they CAN play a bit, they just need to be focused and given the right tactics.
If he had to go, at least Bates seems to have done it face to face, and didn't just text him from South African, that would have been totally disrespectful! Let's hope that the new manager doesn't come in with the promise of plentiful funds, that would be a huge slap in the face for SG and for the fans.

[Lardy]

We have got talent in this squad, Grayson had lost the dressing room and the results showed this. Bates needs to sit down and get in a tough manager who will drill the defence and up the work rate all over the pitch. Even if we had no quality in the squad a decent manager should be able to get the team playing with a structure, with players knowing what they should be doing, add to this a motivated Snoddy Clayton Delph etc the Leeds job should be an attractive prospect to decent managers even with Bates at the helm.
This is a chance to inject some positivity back into Elland Road!! Lets get behind the team and the new manager and push on!! Id like to thank Grayson for all he has done at Leeds and wish him the best in the future.
MOT

I'm with you on the talent in the squad, I think under a manager with proven motivational skills, although I think it could only be a good upper-mid-table squad. It seems we have a slapdash style of motivated players, 2-3 motivated every week, then the next week it could be a different 2-3, but certainly no cohesion. That could be argued against by saying claiming late goals, but honestly, I think we may just have one of the actual fittest, (in terms of stamina) teams in this league. It's glaringly obvious we need someone with some skill, leadership & experience at the back though.

But I have to say, I don't think the Leeds job is an attractive one. If I was a manager, I'd be looking at the fact of how much SG has done, with so little & still gets fired. The chairman is despised by the fanbase, the club can't complete a transfer deal without making disparaging remarks towards a former player or an agent (whether thinly veiled, or obvious), and whoever comes in would either have to have a silver tongue with regards to talking round a chairman to bringing someone in or be an absolute genius in working with their hands tied behind their back.

[joluafc4eva]

Personally I think it would be a challenge for any footy manager who is out of work. Just imagine if you were the one who got Leeds into the Prem this season after all.

[HarryofOz]

The timing is deliberate.

A new manager at the start of the month would have wanted to spend money, which Bates was never going to let happen. A new manager might have persuaded Howson to stay, so Bates wouldn't have had that cash boost either.

Bringing one in now is ideal (for Bates) - it takes the spotlight off his failure to invest.

The comment about 'the transfer window being closed' stood out like a sore thumb in the club statement - deliberately timed this way as you say.

[Twiggster]

I'm with you on the talent in the squad, I think under a manager with proven motivational skills, although I think it could only be a good upper-mid-table squad. It seems we have a slapdash style of motivated players, 2-3 motivated every week, then the next week it could be a different 2-3, but certainly no cohesion. That could be argued against by saying claiming late goals, but honestly, I think we may just have one of the actual fittest, (in terms of stamina) teams in this league. It's glaringly obvious we need someone with some skill, leadership & experience at the back though.

But I have to say, I don't think the Leeds job is an attractive one. If I was a manager, I'd be looking at the fact of how much SG has done, with so little & still gets fired. The chairman is despised by the fanbase, the club can't complete a transfer deal without making disparaging remarks towards a former player or an agent (whether thinly veiled, or obvious), and whoever comes in would either have to have a silver tongue with regards to talking round a chairman to bringing someone in or be an absolute genius in working with their hands tied behind their back.

Soddinell! Lardy is back from hibernation! In VLR last night and making his FOURTH post in ten years on here! Things must be bad at LUFC! :mrgreen: WB, Larders! :thup:

[Dr.Leeds]

I'm considering posting again....

Don't force yourself

[Swell Shark]

Personally I think it would be a challenge for any footy manager who is out of work. Just imagine if you were the one who got Leeds into the Prem this season after all.

hmmmm. Are you really that naive to think that is really going to happen? give me Mourinho, Wenger, Guardiola or Hiddink, I still dont think that would happen.

Leeds are 10-1 in most markets for Promotion, id give you 100-1...

I honestly reckon we are mid to lower mid table fodder this season im afraid. I'd love to say that next season with some reinvestment we could have a crack, but i think we all know that aint going to happen...

[becchio bear]

Personally I think it would be a challenge for any footy manager who is out of work. Just imagine if you were the one who got Leeds into the Prem this season after all.

But you said we are heading to the Blue Square Prem Jo

[joluafc4eva]

But you said we are heading to the Blue Square Prem Jo

Ah but that was with Grayson in charge

[Crude]

I'd love to say that next season with some reinvestment we could have a crack, but i think we all know that aint going to happen...

You don't think Ken will buy some new toilet paper for the bathrooms next season?

[becchio bear]

Ah but that was with Grayson in charge

you change your mind more than Twiggs does

[Martyn]

You don't think Ken will buy some new toilet paper for the bathrooms next season?

Buy? No.

I heard he was looking to loan some hardly used toilet paper from Tottenham.

[joluafc4eva]

hmmmm. Are you really that naive to think that is really going to happen? give me Mourinho, Wenger, Guardiola or Hiddink, I still dont think that would happen.

Leeds are 10-1 in most markets for Promotion, id give you 100-1...

I honestly reckon we are mid to lower mid table fodder this season im afraid. I'd love to say that next season with some reinvestment we could have a crack, but i think we all know that aint going to happen...

No of course I dont really but just saying imagine if you came in a it did happen - even if it was next season. Like I say its a challenge for any out of work footy manager.

[Silky]

I can't wait for Silky's post in here!

You might be suprised to learn that i actually had a private conversation with riot on here immediatley after the Ipswich game in which i finally conceded that it was time for Larry to go... and if you have a look in the Birmingham thread (i think it's the Birmingham thread) i actually stated that i was quite certain that this would be his last game in charge.

The reason? comes down to that 'Short term - long term' thread that i started.... for me, it's a no brainer. Short Term. Promotion. I just want to see us back at the top and i dont care how, and i dont care who takes us there (i would have liked it to be Simon, but it wasnt to be)

I still believe Simon is/ maybe WAS a great young manager with loads of potential. Hopefully he hasnt been broken by the c@#t that is Ken Bates, but the point is - he has lost his way. He's not a retard, he's not inept like some of you would have me believe... he's just been battered from pillar to post by everyone, had his best players sold or let go every year he's been with is, First Delph, then Beckford, The BJ and Max, and now Jonny...... he's had no money to replace them... and it's finally got the better of him.

In the LONG TERM, any new manager will face the same issues as Simon... his players will go stale, he wont have the resources to freshen up the squad, and everything will start going down hill.... but in the SHORT TERM, a new manager will demand respect and an immediate response...

So for the sake of our promotion chance this season, i'm glad he's gone tbh.... i have never argued that Simon was the worlds best manager, but simply that he got blamed for things that were out of his control... things that were the fault of the chairman, not his own.

Warnock is a twat and it will pain me to see him in charge at first... but i do feel that he is the man best qualified to rally the troops and get us back in that top 6.

Also, i have always believed it is KB's goal to get us back to the top and then sell up - debt free. Promotion might be our only chance at getting rid of the old ba***rd.

[joelufc20]

I do genuinely believe that Obrein gotgrayson the sack. The way he dealt with him caused him to lose the players respect and that's why results went downhill. We were doing well until that burnley game then we looked a bag of s**t against them. After that it has been a downward spiral.

[joluafc4eva]

I do genuinely believe that Obrein gotgrayson the sack. The way he dealt with him caused him to lose the players respect and that's why results went downhill. We were doing well until that burnley game then we looked a bag of crap against them. After that it has been a downward spiral.

Good point there.

[CardiffWhite]

In my view both Grayson and Bates are responsible for the club's failings. Bates alienates people and puts off investors. Perhaps that's why, if actually true, he only attracts the chancers he says come to him and not the serious investers we need.

Grayson has made a few good signings, but most of them have turned out to be duff or he can't get the best out of them. His tactics are often dubious and he has been at the helm when we've lived through some of our most humiliating games. On the other side, he has also got us promoted and taken us close to the play-offs last season. He was also at the helm when we beat scum and we've put in some other good displays against premiership teams in the cups where we've been able to hold our heads high. However, although I thank him for the good memories, this is outweighed by the bad. How long have we been bemoaning our disorganised and inept defense? It couldn't be allowed to continue like this and I think he had to go, although the timing is not the best.