O/T: i-Pod shuffle advice pls.

Twiggster · Post by **Twiggster** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:03 pm

lufc1304 wrote:
thank f*ck for that, this was turning into something akin to an Oliver Stone movie!!!

DynamiteKid · Post by **DynamiteKid** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:40 pm

Dr.Leeds wrote: Artists often are ripped off by record companies but how does illegal downloading help the artist? If the artist gets a minuscule percentage of sales how does it help them to get a minuscule percentage of less? If an artist on a poor deal sells a lot of units for the record company they are in a position to get a better deal.

If you want to help artists buy direct from them wherever possible, I completey agree with that point. But if you think by sticking it to EMI or U2 you are helping all the young new talent out there you are quite deluded.

And it's actually getting worse once smaller bands are signed to a label. Part of the agreement used to be that the record company got all record sales, but t-shirt sales at shows etc were all to the band. Not anymore. Labels have whats called 360° deals where they now get a portion of all merchandise sales at gigs etc. All to combat falling music revenues. Stealing the music isn't "helping" anybody. Well except yourself of course.

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:15 pm

DynamiteKid wrote:

And it's actually getting worse once smaller bands are signed to a label. Part of the agreement used to be that the record company got all record sales, but t-shirt sales at shows etc were all to the band. Not anymore. Labels have whats called 360° deals where they now get a portion of all merchandise sales at gigs etc. All to combat falling music revenues. Stealing the music isn't "helping" anybody. Well except yourself of course.

Wasting your time mate, those who think it's fine to steal music will just carry on. Hope they feel just as sanguine if they are ever mugged or burgled.

MeeTa · Post by **MeeTa** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:33 pm

Guildford White wrote:

Wasting your time mate, those who think it's fine to steal music will just carry on. Hope they feel just as sanguine if they are ever mugged or burgled.

I will carry one downloading what ever i feel like, so your right about that

Dr.Leeds · Post by **Dr.Leeds** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:27 pm

faaip wrote:
Well me for one..I know BA has thousands, Doc ,64, WR.....

Who?

Me?

I don't know what you're talking about...

:-)

Dr.Leeds · Post by **Dr.Leeds** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:30 pm

Now why hasn't that worked?

MeeTa · Post by **MeeTa** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:32 pm

Dr.Leeds wrote:
Who?

[img]http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g40 ... edia_share[/img]

Me?

[img]http://ws1099.photobucket.com/albums/g4 ... edia_share[/img]

I don't know what you're talking about...

[img]http://ws1099.photobucket.com/albums/g4 ... edia_share[/img]

:-)

Tried to make em work, but i failed

Gino 1959 · Post by **Gino 1959** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:35 pm

Q. How do you get free songs from iTunes for iPad, Twiggs?
A.

MeeTa · Post by **MeeTa** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:37 pm

Gino 1959 wrote:Q. How do you get free songs from iTunes for iPad, Twiggs?
A.

A: Hack someone els Itunes account, download songs from their account spending their money

Dr.Leeds · Post by **Dr.Leeds** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:38 pm

MeeTa wrote:

Tried to make em work, but i failed

Thanks for trying.

MeeTa · Post by **MeeTa** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:40 pm

Dr.Leeds wrote:
Thanks for trying.

usually easy to get them to work, but really dont know why it isnt this time.

Twiggster · Post by **Twiggster** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:45 pm

Gino 1959 wrote:Q. How do you get free songs from iTunes for iPad, Twiggs?
A.

I have no idea! He has 5 gig of tunes on his i-Pad, downloaded off the net...not from i-Tunes obviously. He was uploading them to i-Tunes when I told him to go to bed an hour or so ago!

barryanorak · Post by **barryanorak** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:56 am

DynamiteKid wrote:

And it's actually getting worse once smaller bands are signed to a label. Part of the agreement used to be that the record company got all record sales, but t-shirt sales at shows etc were all to the band. Not anymore. Labels have whats called 360° deals where they now get a portion of all merchandise sales at gigs etc. All to combat falling music revenues. Stealing the music isn't "helping" anybody. Well except yourself of course.

There are business models that do work - forgive me mentioning the name Marillion again, but their business model is now known as 'The Marillion model' and adopted cross industry.

They were the first band to have a substantive internet site, they used the data base to target fans, they became independent, they pre-sold albums before they were recorded - to finance the recording (more than 8000 took the leap of faith with the last album), they book venues that DON'T take a cut of the merchandising etc etc. Innovative things that, if adopted by more and more bands could release music form the iniquitous practices of the major labels.

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:20 am

Dr.Leeds wrote:Now why hasn't that worked?

I think you picked up the link marked "email and IM" rather than the link marked "IMG"

Gino 1959 · Post by **Gino 1959** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:41 am

Twiggster wrote:
I have no idea! He has 5 gig of tunes on his i-Pad, downloaded off the net...not from i-Tunes obviously. He was uploading them to i-Tunes when I told him to go to bed an hour or so ago!

Does he say things like Avast Me Hearties when he is downloading tunes from the Net?

Dr.Leeds · Post by **Dr.Leeds** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:41 am

Guildford White wrote:

I think you picked up the link marked "email and IM" rather than the link marked "IMG"

I was trying to do it on my iPhone. Will try to do it on my PC tonight.

barryanorak · Post by **barryanorak** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:49 am

Dr.Leeds wrote:
I was trying to do it on my iPhone. Will try to do it on my PC tonight.

Must be too full of free music...

Dr.Leeds · Post by **Dr.Leeds** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:18 am

barryanorak wrote:

Must be too full of free music...

You can pay for music? :-?

white.riot · Post by **white.riot** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:36 am

Dr.Leeds wrote:
You can pay for music? :-?

Better still, some folk apparently pay for music before it's even music.

Dr.Leeds · Post by **Dr.Leeds** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:02 am

white.riot wrote:
Better still, some folk apparently pay for music before it's even music.

Indeed. I've taken part in all the Marillion preorders and have supported several acts through Pledge Music.

It's a bit like buying a season ticket before you know who we have signed in the summer.