Dirty Leeds

[white.riot]

The whole "we've got a crap squad but we're going to battle our way through these trying times" mentality.

Whereas with Grayson, whom I had a lot of time for make no mistake, sort of whimpered and made signings like Nunez, Grella and Rogers... not exactly the type of players I'd want in my corner when the going got tough.

Any team that can field a mix of prem and big money buys in it's back 5 does not have a crap squad. As the goals against pop in at the rate of 2 and 3 a game in most league games and all around me say nowt's changed, we still can't defend, the last thing on my mind is a siege. Why, only last week we were over run by a Bolton side so poor they have since sacked their manager. Against Blackpool we were as outplayed as any lufc team i have seen. Other teams seem to cope quite nicely with a team some on here declared the finest in the league. Siege is just an imaginary state of mind. What we actually have is a team doing ok (points gathering) but playing safety first football. That excites you, fair enough. I feel entitled to expect something better. I visit ER for a number of reasons. Entertainment would be one of them.

[1964white]

Entertainment would be one of them.

Entertainment value was top notch under Larry as poor opposition regularly knocked in 3, 4, 5 & 6's past us

[Bakerjamessteven]

Who cares about a dirty Leeds squad, dirty women is what I prefer :-):-):-) lol:-):-)

[white.riot]

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rtainment value was top notch under Larry as poor opposition regularly knocked in 3, 4, 5 & 6's past us

But, thankfully, never 7. Larry's side often played scintillating football. Colin's just play dead. Larry'GD as good as Colin's anall. Aye we are living in truly bleak times. I could spit.

[1964white]

But, thankfully, never 7. Larry's side often played scintillating football. Colin's just play dead. Larry'GD as good as Colin's anall. Aye we are living in truly bleak times. I could spit.

Blackburn in the 2nd half when we battered them which included McCormacks scintillating finish, Oxford & Everton in the cup were very good...Austin's goal & rocket of a shot that almost broke the crossbar were a joy to watch...White's goal v the Toffees....Diouf's intelligent play & flicks are a delight....young Sam Byram has been immense....Pearce is the best No.5 that has played at ER in a long time....Paddy is the best No.1 we've seen for a long time...Becchio has scored 11 goals even though he hasn't played that well this season....unbeaten v three of the relegated prem teams, beat a Forest team that had'nt lost this season...three clean sheets.... A manager who has nous & knows what he is doing...Need i say more !
Now do tell me about last season's fiasco before you gob in my eye

[Vausey]

Even if the stats don't explicitly suggest it right now - if you can't see an improvement from what we were last season then I guess we're never going to see eye to eye on this matter.

[white.riot]

Blackburn in the 2nd half when we battered them which included McCormacks scintillating finish, Oxford & Everton in the cup were very good...Austin's goal & rocket of a shot that almost broke the crossbar were a joy to watch...White's goal v the Toffees....Diouf's intelligent play & flicks are a delight....young Sam Byram has been immense....Pearce is the best No.5 that has played at ER in a long time....Paddy is the best No.1 we've seen for a long time...Becchio has scored 11 goals even though he hasn't played that well this season....unbeaten v three of the relegated prem teams, beat a Forest team that had'nt lost this season...three clean sheets.... A manager who has nous & knows what he is doing...Need i say more !
Now do tell me about last season's fiasco before you gob in my eye

I discount the cup - we played poor sides early doors and Colin let the lads have their heads against Everton who totally underestimated the task. Our best [only decent - as in both halves] performance. Goals from Penalties and dead ball situations are seldom great. We are not scoring from open play - Becchio has 3 pens, how many goals has he in the league other than those three. We are on the edge of the play offs playing unambitious football. Last year we were up and down but played some great attacking stuff at times and were on the edge of the play offs. Still, facts don't seem to matter. We say things are better so they must be better. Have we played well [not attractively - just well] in two halves in any other game than Everton? I can't think of one. And I'm suspicious about Rovers - I know we were blown away but recovered. The only league game I've missed at home in 5 years and it's become El Classico. I smell a rat on that one.

[1964white]

I discount the cup - we played poor sides early doors and Colin let the lads have their heads against Everton who totally underestimated the task. Our best [only decent - as in both halves] performance. Goals from Penalties and dead ball situations are seldom great. We are not scoring from open play - Becchio has 3 pens, how many goals has he in the league other than those three. We are on the edge of the play offs playing unambitious football. Last year we were up and down but played some great attacking stuff at times and were on the edge of the play offs. Still, facts don't seem to matter. We say things are better so they must be better. Have we played well [not attractively - just well] in two halves in any other game than Everton? I can't think of one. And I'm suspicious about Rovers - I know we were blown away but recovered. The only league game I've missed at home in 5 years and it's become El Classico. I smell a rat on that one.

Poor sides early doors Cardiff (top), Wolves (2nd) Blackpool who were flying, also Hull were on a run & both are around the top six as for smelling a rat re-Rovers game those who were there will tell you we played exceptionally well in the 2nd half, had it not been for a couple of dodgy refereeing decisions 3 points would have been in the bag...that's football as we rode our luck with dodgy pens v Bolton & Barnsley !

[1964white]

Even if the stats don't explicitly suggest it right now - if you can't see an improvement from what we were last season then I guess we're never going to see eye to eye on this matter.

Riot thought we were decent last season when quite honestly we were rubbish our fans in general have cheered the lads off the pitch at the final whistle this season...says it all really

Bring on the Owls

[Vausey]

I have never enjoyed a season less than I did last season. I really mean that. It was tragic from start to finish.

[white.riot]

Poor sides early doors Cardiff (top), Wolves (2nd) Blackpool who were flying, also Hull were on a run & both are around the top six as for smelling a rat re-Rovers game those who were there will tell you we played exceptionally well in the 2nd half, had it not been for a couple of dodgy refereeing decisions 3 points would have been in the bag...that's football as we rode our luck with dodgy pens v Bolton !

So, for clarity, have we actually played well for 90 minutes this season in the league - we certainly haven't at ER.

And, just because I'm interested, would you like to see goals scored from open play? With one exception -the penalty v Bolton which most on here will have missed, I can't remember a single game this year where our players break the line and dare to run ahead of the man with the ball. Most of the time we are over run, we defend, we send it to Diouf who potters around looking like an ex Prem player who's grateful that everything is so much slower in the Championship before he eventually does something and the whole thing starts again. Only Byram moves around the pitch with intent as far as I can see.

[Vausey]

So, for clarity, have we actually played well for 90 minutes this season in the league - we certainly haven't at ER.

And, just because I'm interested, would you like to see goals scored from open play? With one exception -the penalty v Bolton which most on here will have missed, I can't remember a single game this year where our players break the line and dare to run ahead of the man with the ball. Most of the time we are over run, we defend, we send it to Diouf who potters around looking like an ex Prem player who's grateful that everything is so much slower in the Championship before he eventually does something and the whole thing starts again. Only Byram moves around the pitch with intent as far as I can see.

Under Simon Grayson we were simply abject. Aside from Forest away last season, who were the poorest team I've seen at this level, we didn't have one stand-out performance. We weren't playing football and were, more often than not, getting played off the park.

If trying and failing to play football entertained you more than combative football which, so far, is picking up points then we'll have to agree to disagree.

[white.riot]

Under Simon Grayson we were simply abject. Aside from Forest away last season, who were the poorest team I've seen at this level, we didn't have one stand-out performance. We weren't playing football and were, more often than not, getting played off the park.

If trying and failing to play football entertained you more than combative football which, so far, is picking up points then we'll have to agree to disagree.

Explain to me how we were still in the promotion hunt when Larry was sacked?

I think a number of posters choose to ignore the facts - for Larry it's any fact which was good and for Colin it's any fact which is poor. I don't see combative football. I see a team regularly over run in midfield and bereft of alternatives to the Tarbet option. Combative teams do not concede goals like our current side. Thankfully we kept a clean sheet v Barnsley and thankfully we scored from a penalty that never was. Warnock looks to be a lucky manager and that can take you a long way. But combative/attractive/imaginative/exciting. The word is probably effective although we'll only know that at seasons end.

[Wolfetoneleeds]

Explain to me how we were still in the promotion hunt when Larry was sacked?

I think a number of posters choose to ignore the facts - for Larry it's any fact which was good and for Colin it's any fact which is poor. I don't see combative football. I see a team regularly over run in midfield and bereft of alternatives to the Tarbet option. Combative teams do not concede goals like our current side. Thankfully we kept a clean sheet v Barnsley and thankfully we scored from a penalty that never was. Warnock looks to be a lucky manager and that can take you a long way. But combative/attractive/imaginative/exciting. The word is probably effective although we'll only know that at seasons end.

Am not sure riot... Look at other games this season Bristol. We played well there.. Everton... Ok I'll put that down to a prem team and the players stepped up to the plate !!
Blackburn.. We didn't have a bad game....
Wolves and forest... Forest we played some great football....lets not overlook these games were tbh we played not bad at all...
I won't include Oxford and so on

[1964white]

I have never enjoyed a season less than I did last season. I really mean that. It was tragic from start to finish.

Worst ever for me in all my 50 years of supporting Leeds United.....how anyone can say we are worst or even compare the current squad to that bunch of losers is beyond me....made me miserable tbh...shocking season

[white.riot]

Worst ever for me in all my 50 years of supporting Leeds United.....how anyone can say we are worst or even compare the current squad to that bunch of losers is beyond me....made me miserable tbh...shocking season

But they weren't losers, that's the point. They were always in and around the play offs. What was bad last year was the atmosphere and that was a self inflicted wound brought about by the fans. That's why I have no time for LUST. They may not have organised the Bates Out stuff on the terraces but they did nothing to stop it. They did not lead they followed and lost any sympathy I may have had for them as a result. We were in the play off shake down until Colin arrived and destroyed us. The last 4 months was dire. That 4 month was about warnock who cost us dear.

[white.riot]

Am not sure riot... Look at other games this season Bristol. We played well there.. Everton... Ok I'll put that down to a prem team and the players stepped up to the plate !!
Blackburn.. We didn't have a bad game....
Wolves and forest... Forest we played some great football....lets not overlook these games were tbh we played not bad at all...
I won't include Oxford and so on

First half we caught a demoted Wolves flat footed - second half they should have won the game. We were outplayed [said it at the time]. I'm pleased that we win games but Barnsley/Bolton/Hull/Blackpool - they all played better football than us. I can't believe our aspirations stretch no further than grinding out results. But they do and it's all a bit sad imo.

[Wolfetoneleeds]

First half we caught a demoted Wolves flat footed - second half they should have won the game. We were outplayed [said it at the time]. I'm pleased that we win games but Barnsley/Bolton/Hull/Blackpool - they all played better football than us. I can't believe our aspirations stretch no further than grinding out results. But they do and it's all a bit sad imo.

Yes these games we were p1ss poor no doubt!!!
I just hope with the games we played well!!!
It's just the team still gelling together... I do think towards the back end of the season we will be right on top of our game!!!!
I do get you... It p1ssed me off when we lost against Blackpool and people were saying "we'll it's Blackpool and there promotion contenders" ad think well were Leeds and the biggest club in this league!!!!
Boy I do feel there's only one way Leeds are going right now... And that's up

[Emsley]

Who cares about a dirty Leeds squad, dirty women is what I prefer :-):-):-) lol:-):-)

I could do with a dirty hoe this weekend. :mrgreen:

[Wolfetoneleeds]

I could do with a dirty hoe this weekend. :mrgreen:

Take our lass please!!!!