Hull City v Leeds - Team/News/Reports/Ratings

[The Subhuman]

Brown, Norris, Tate, Diouff, and Varney need to go, journeymen/hasbeens playing for a pay check. McCormack needs to be sold if we can't find a use for him. Kenny shouldn't have been signed in the first place, apparently another in a long line of Leeds keepers who can't organize a defence....but as he's here....

Warnock is not big enough to manage a high profile club, small team mentality can't work here. Current squad looks uninspiring and there is too much dead wood. All those positions we were short of in the close season are still positions of need.

On top of this I'm not convinced the new owners have the expertise to run this club the way it needs to be run... and we'll see the what funds are available and therefore the intent in the next month

[markolufc]

Warnock got the tactics wrong for the 3rd away game on the trot. Very likely he's getting the tactics wrong at home too, but it's not showing as we're getting results.

Watched it online, when Hull were knocking the ball about around the half way line and building up from the back, I counted 8 Leeds players in our 3rd of the pitch. We're sitting far too deep and inviting teams in, no bloody wonder we're getting outplayed in the middle of the park because our players aren't in the middle, they're sat back.

Faaip is right, it's a small club tactic and it doesn't work for us. Leeds should be putting the fear of god into opposition, when Grayson was in charge we were brilliant away from home because we'd attack them and pile forward. Yes we conceded a lot, but we also scored a lot. We're still conceding by sitting back but putting no pressure on the opposition defence.

Every time we go forward we don't look threatening because we're having to get all our players forward from sitting back, nobody is ready to move forward.

[Kyle_5351]

The problem was space in between the lines. Against teams that play short, high tempo passing, you can't push to high, as they can play around you and you can't sit too deep, as it will invite too much pressure.

They needed to compress the space between the forwards/midfield/defence more and try get them to make passes that will not work or try to go over the top.

There was no adaption by Warnock today.

[1964white]

All those fans clamouring for Somma & McCormack can pipe down now, not one shot on target in the whole 90 minutes

Becchio, Diouf & Thomas will all start v Bolton

[becchio bear]

All those fans clamouring for Somma & McCormack can pipe down now, not one shot on target in the whole 90 minutes

Becchio, Diouf & Thomas will all start v Bolton

That would be rads, he was in heaven in VLR when he saw they were starting!!

[weasel]

Kenny
Lees, Tate, Pearce,
Byram, Green, Norris, Brown/Drury, White/Thomas
Ross and Somma

GITAFTU!

01 Kenny
04 Lees
05 Pearce
15 Tate
07 Green
14 White
17 Brown
19 Norris
25 Byram
28 Somma
44 McCormack

I thought things were bad but crikey if NW is taking football advice from Twiggs then we really are up sh*t creek.

[Emsley]

lol 64 just told a bucnh of people to STFU.

[becchio bear]

01 Kenny
04 Lees
05 Pearce
15 Tate
07 Green
14 White
17 Brown
19 Norris
25 Byram
28 Somma
44 McCormack

I thought things were bad but crikey if NW is taking football advice from Twiggs then we really are up sh*t creek.

Oh heck, I knew Twiggs had suggested Somma and McCormack up front but not realised the extent of the similarities

[MeeTa]

All those fans clamouring for Somma & McCormack can pipe down now, not one shot on target in the whole 90 minutes

Becchio, Diouf & Thomas will all start v Bolton

Neh wont pipe down based on that, our strikers today wernt the problem. Becchio up front wouldnt have made a bit of difference at all. Our main problem is our midfield, their even more of a problem then our defense. I can not believe how shite and utter rubbish every single midfielder out there was today. Somma and Maccy was abandoned on top and got nowt, absolutely nowt to work with. You could of put messi and ronaldo up front today and it wouldnt made a difference.

[Emsley]

You could of put messi and ronaldo up front today and it wouldnt made a difference.

Bollocks, i bet it would of done.

[markolufc]

Neh wont pipe down based on that, our strikers today wernt the problem. Becchio up front wouldnt have made a bit of difference at all. Our main problem is our midfield, their even more of a problem then our defense. I can not believe how shite and utter rubbish every single midfielder out there was today. Somma and Maccy was abandoned on top and got nowt, absolutely nowt to work with. You could of put messi and ronaldo up front today and it wouldnt made a difference.

Messi is an attacking midfielder, so I have a feeling putting Messi on would most certainly have made a difference, since our problem was the midfield.

[becchio bear]

Neh wont pipe down based on that, our strikers today wernt the problem. Becchio up front wouldnt have made a bit of difference at all. Our main problem is our midfield, their even more of a problem then our defense. I can not believe how shite and utter rubbish every single midfielder out there was today. Somma and Maccy was abandoned on top and got nowt, absolutely nowt to work with. You could of put messi and ronaldo up front today and it wouldnt made a difference.

I find it very interesting/amusing your above comments based on how you react to Becchio!! Quite often Becchio is abandoned and gets nowt, and yes before you say it he does sometimes fluff his lines and miss sitters but so do multi million pound strikers!! Just thought I'd mention that

[MeeTa]

I find it very interesting/amusing your above comments based on how you react to Becchio!! Quite often Becchio is abandoned and gets nowt, and yes before you say it he does sometimes fluff his lines and miss sitters but so do multi millionare pound strikers!! Just thought I'd mention that

And after he started doing hes job properly and been scoring goals, ive kept my mouth shut about him. so please spare me that crap

[MeeTa]

Messi is an attacking midfielder, so I have a feeling putting Messi on would most certainly have made a difference, since our problem was the midfield.

Considering the small amount of time Messi spends working defensively i would put him a defensive striker. And Technically barca very often plays without strikers, so Messi, pedro, sanches, tello etc swaps being in the striker position

[becchio bear]

And after he started doing hes job properly and been scoring goals, ive kept my mouth shut about him. so please spare me that crap

No crap from me. I was simply pointing out that you are making excuses for ross and Somma today for lack of service and yet Becchio in the same position in the past has been brushed off by you and others

[weasel]

And after he started doing hes job properly and been scoring goals, ive kept my mouth shut about him. so please spare me that crap

Would that be the same Becchio who scored 8 goals in his first 9 games this season? The most games Becchio has gone without scoring this season is 3.

[MeeTa]

No crap from me. I was simply pointing out that you are making excuses for ross and Somma today for lack of service and yet Becchio in the same position in the past has been brushed off by you and others

But i dont agree with that, some games sure there was lack of service for him. But Becchio had a habit of wasting a truck load of 100% sitters. He seems to have worked out where the goal is now tho, and ive said nothing about him in a good while.

[MeeTa]

Would that be the same Becchio who scored 8 goals in his first 9 games this season? The most games Becchio has gone without scoring this season is 3.

Yes that the same Becchio, but if you bluddy start to read my posts you would see that ive kept my mouth shut for a good while now. Not commented much on him this season at all

[The Subhuman]

I wonder if there will ever come a day when I get through a whole one without reading about Messi on a Leeds forum. can we wait till we're back in the premiership and he's at least 35.

[becchio bear]

Yes that the same Becchio, but if you bluddy start to read my posts you would see that ive kept my mouth shut for a good while now. Not commented much on him this season at all

So you only comment on Becchio when you perceive him to be s**t? that's nice