Birmingham City v Leeds Utd Match Thread

[Irish Ian]

Counts for nothing in the playoffs. In fact law of averages will be against us

No such thing as the law of averages in sport.

As every rich bookie knows.

[Cjay]

I could live till I'm 100 and still not understand the Dallas substitution whenever we are losing.

Its baffling.

Of all players Dallas is a winger who rarely scores, rarely creates, (been here 4 years nearly and has 10 league goals and 10 assists).

It will baffle me till the day i die.

[BGwhite]

Unless we're resigning Brown next season, then why is he here? Why are we spending money to get him fit for someone else? Can AR or Kinnear answer that to us?

I think the MB is the only one who can answer that. Brown obviously isn't ticking the boxes atm and I doubt he will have any impact on this season whatsoever.

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[Cjay]

agreed I wouldn't have had Roofe on the bench today at all. TBH not sure where he fits going forward but I've said that before. It's way too late in the season to introduce a 442 or 352, and it's way too late to bed in Brown and others. I think we have to play with what we have, get a little more creative with the subs and hope SU fall apart and/or we get the rub of the green in the playoffs.

Forgot to quote CJay

I'd have had him on the bench but wouldn't have swapped him for Bamford, we needed a goal, Bamford is struggling but still more likely to score then sodding Dallas.

MB is great but he is so so predictable at times.

Dallas was guaranteed to come on.

Roofe for Bamford was locked on.

Clarke for someone was certain.

Why not Shacks for someone?

Why not keep Roofe and Bamford on?

I'd like to see us try Roofe and Vamford as a pair, Classic 9 and 10.

[BGwhite]

MB likes his players to play through bad form, problem is that can take time. The non use of Shack has baffled me, I can understand not using Brown but not using a player who's been quality everytime he's played is mystifying

Absolutely right, every time Shack has played he has injected pace and a tenacity . I reckon his patience will start growing a little thin sooner rather than later.

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[Cjay]

Agreed. We have no chance of winning the play offs. Just accepting now that we'll be back in the Championship again next summer, makes it less painful I suppose.

Have to start again with a rebuild as key players will be sold.

Doesn't bare thinking about.

Not going up when top at xmas.

50% of the season spent top so far.

31 matchdays out of 40 top 2.

The backlash from the media will be horrific and we would be a laughing stock again in the league.

Be back to square 1.

[SG90]

Doesn't bare thinking about.

Not going up when top at xmas.

50% of the season spent top so far.

31 matchdays out of 40 top 2.

The backlash from the media will be horrific and we would be a laughing stock again in the league.

Be back to square 1.

Yep not to mention all the smug gloating from the Brexits (Moose et al), Keith Andrews, Don Goodman etc.

Most frustrating would be having to sell players again and start all over.

[Norm]

Cjay wrote: ↑


I'd have had him on the bench but wouldn't have swapped him for Bamford, we needed a goal, Bamford is struggling but still more likely to score then sodding Dallas.

MB is great but he is so so predictable at times.

Dallas was guaranteed to come on.

Roofe for Bamford was locked on.

Clarke for someone was certain.

Why not Shacks for someone?

Why not keep Roofe and Bamford on?

I'd like to see us try Roofe and Bamford as a pair, Classic 9 and 10.

i've not said it often but I have consistently said that all season and I still think it.

[SG90]

I just hope Villa don't win the playoffs. They will have been rewarded for blatantly cheating ffp then.

[Cjay]

Yep not to mention all the smug gloating from the Brexits (Moose et al), Keith Andrews, Don Goodman etc.

Most frustrating would be having to sell players again and start all over.

The summer would be unbearable

Come on Leeds ffs.

[leic white 63]

what a pathetic display.
passing was dreadful and we couldn't hit a cows arse with a f**king banjo.

[1964white]

Pablo left the ground in a protective boot

[SG90]

Pablo left the ground in a protective boot

I said this would happen, so I can't say I'm surprised.

Brown must play now. No excuses.

[White Riot]

MB likes his players to play through bad form, problem is that can take time. The non use of Shack has baffled me, I can understand not using Brown but not using a player who's been quality everytime he's played is mystifying

Yeah, as was said earlier, great to be loyal to Ayling, but he's taken about 10 games to come good again.

Shacks was worth a punt when we needed a spark today, but we turn to Dallas, a non-match fit Roofe and a roll of the dice with Clarke, who promised a lot but had his illness and hasn't been the same since.

The loss of any shape in the 2nd half was really alarming.

Monk's set his team up just the same as ER, we know what they're all about and yet we've let a poor but physically strong and fairly well organised side do the double over us - very costly when you're looking for automatic promotion.

I really fear the worst now and if we fail to get up, followed by a clear out in the summer, then all the great work of this season will be undone.

[The Subhuman]

I don't think we'll have a summer clean out, we may lose PJ but his form has tailed off and no one is paying for Clarke at the moment. Phillips is not going to get a lot of higher suitors either, he's done well out of position in a system but I'm not sure that translates to a big money move to the Prem.

I'm seeing

Casilla

Ayling - Beradi - Cooper - Douglas

Forshaw or Phillips

Hernandez - Klich - Boguz - Alioski

Bamford/Roofe or AN Other

Being the core next season always assuming a top european or prem club even comes in for PJ

Halme/Strujk and Diaz also one more year in the system.

[The Subhuman]

I think we'll be better next season if we stay down

[SG90]

I don't think we'll have a summer clean out, we may lose PJ but his form has tailed off and no one is paying for Clarke at the moment. Phillips is not going to get a lot of higher suitors either, he's done well out of position in a system but I'm not sure that translates to a big money move to the Prem.

I'm seeing

Casilla

Ayling - Beradi - Cooper - Douglas

Forshaw or Phillips

Hernandez - Klich - Boguz - Alioski

Bamford/Roofe or AN Other

Being the core next season always assuming a top european or prem club even comes in for PJ

Halme/Strujk and Diaz also one more year in the system.

Roofe has one year left on his contract and wants £40k which isn't happening, so he'll be off. Every PL club will want Clarke and we won't reject £10m, which is peanuts in the PL. Jansson will probably be off too and very hard to replace.

The longer we stay in the Championship, the u23s will be off too.

That defence looks woeful to me.

[60sUnited]

I agree Cjay that we are the best team in this division, by quite a bit.
But we have failed to take chances in every match and have a terrible conversion rate.
Then in matches against poor teams like Brum, Hull, QPR, Forest, Stoke we just don't look up for it - that worries me a lot if we end up in the paly-offs as any shows like this will be severly punished.
I thought against norwich and Blunts we had some bad luck, but both showed more bottle and resolve - again worrying.
Still not over, but I just feel completely deflated and felt negative for the full 90, whereas I'm usually very positive that we can always win.
Sigh, looks like SU need to slip up now or we're gonna have to do it the hard way.
to get up we need to show bottle and fight, sorry, but I didn't see that today and I also didn't see it against QPR.
If we don't go up it'll be our own fault.

I agree with most of that and feel the same, very disappointed with todays inept performance. BUT we have done amazingly well with the squad we have, its a poor quality league thats why we have managed to be where we are. In another season our inability to score would probably be disastrous !!

[SG90]

Casilla Ali Cooper Jansson Ayling Phillips Klich Brown Roofe Shackleton Bamford - my team for Tuesday.

[The Subhuman]

Roofe has one year left on his contract and wants £40k which isn't happening, so he'll be off. Every PL will want Clarke and we won't reject £10m, which is peanuts in the PL. Jansson will probably be off too and very hard to replace.

The longer we stay in the Championship, the u23s will be off too.

That defence looks woeful to me.

I'm the only poster that really rates Roofe so he'd be no loss, plus he is contracted through 20 IIRC. Clarke isn't worth 3 M right now. He flashed early in the season then faded then got ill, ...PJ will probably head back to play in the top Dutch or Swedish league. Or Russia.