QSI In Talks With Radz (Phil Hay Update)

[1964white]

Must say I also have serious doubts this will amount to anything substantive. But equally the story provides a modicum of hope that we might actually get some proper investment in the squad commensurate with this league and within the FFP rules if it comes off. I won’t be holding my breath however!

Without proper investment we are fooked as far as competing with the big boys

Some of our fans are deluded if they think the current crop of all our U23's are capable of that sort of excellence, lets face it out of the kids that came out of our academy only James Milner & Danny Rose have played regularly for top four premiership teams. Delph rarely gets a game for Citeh these days

[SG90]

Do you seriously think the majority of Man U & Liverpool who attend matches don't come from those respective cities ?

Leeds apparently have a fan base of around 300,000 globally, I have loads of friends are who weren't born in the city or even in Yorkshire. We are just like our Lancashire counterparts to a certain degree !

Yes they do, however they are a team you support if you want to see trophies lifted and be successful, I wouldn't say that is the same with Leeds, unless you were around for the Revie era. In my lifetime, we've won the League, but I was 2 so wasn't around to see it, and then had the O'Leary era. Other than that, it's been nothing but misery. When I see scum fans whinging because they missed out on a top 4 place it winds me no end. But I wouldn't swap Leeds for that. I just don't see where the excitement would come from.

[SG90]

So is your only isue with the Qatar stuff that you think we would become "soulless"

Human right abuses
Slavery
Stoning of gay people
Treatment of women

Who wouldn't want that at our club?

For what it's worth, I wouldn't want an oil billionaire from the US, China taking us over either. The immense pride in our club over this season has been because we did it with little investment, just great coaching and young talent. It would feel hollow doing it with a team of PSG mercenaries kicking out our youth and spending obscene sums of money.

[Cjay]

Must say I also have serious doubts this will amount to anything substantive. But equally the story provides a modicum of hope that we might actually get some proper investment in the squad commensurate with this league and within the FFP rules if it comes off. I won’t be holding my breath however!

I dont doubt its genuine, i dont doubt the Qatar interest, i dont doubt that if they really really want it to happen then it will, they could give Radz a very healthy profit using the small change down the back of the sofa.

But ive read our owners have messed this sort of thing up atleast 2 times before (big money investors came calling but got messed around and backed out), i think Radz is to stubborn and naive and wont sell and the Qatar lot will just go and buy someone else.

Good things dont happen to us

[SG90]

The point I was trying to raise is it seems that all such dissent has been suppressed at PSG, with fans being banned and sued for criticising the owners. How's that going to go down at Leeds?

These global corporate entities are selling an image of themselves, that's the only reason they get involved in football. This is the corrupt and disgusting world we live in.

I know it happens everywhere, but I don't have to lend it my support. Speaking out against human rights abuses is more important than a team winning at football.

Completely agree.

I honestly would rather be non league as we are than cheer on a "successful" Leeds pumped with blood money.

[Cjay]

Human right abuses
Slavery
Stoning of gay people
Treatment of women

Who wouldn't want that at our club?

For what it's worth, I wouldn't want an oil billionaire from the US, China taking us over either. The immense pride in our club over this season has been because we did it with little investment, just great coaching and young talent. It would feel hollow doing it with a team of PSG mercenaries kicking out our youth and spending obscene sums of money.

You know Radz made some of his money through the middle east? If you traced his wealth back you would probably find it came from all sorts of unsavory places. I dont agree with what goes on in the Middle East and places like that but bad things happen all over the world every day no matter who owns us.

We failed mate, we failed, we achieved nothing, we are back to square 1, Radz is going to sell key players, same as we have done every year for over 10 years.

We dont even know if he can afford to keep Bielsa.

Would you be so against it if the alternative is Bielsa leaves, Phillips leaves, Roofe leaves, Clarke leaves, because those are all very possible.

Or how about all that happens, Qatar buy Derby after they fail to get up and they get promoted next season while we fail again?

Arent you fed up of being a club used as a byword for failure?

[dezzy]

Do you seriously think the majority of Man U & Liverpool who attend matches don't come from those respective cities ?

Leeds apparently have a fan base of around 300,000 globally, I have loads of friends are who weren't born in the city or even in Yorkshire. We are just like our Lancashire counterparts to a certain degree !

The thing is City at home have zero atmosphere, I don’t think that will ever be the case at Elland Road. How many kids in Leeds are wearing Man city tops? Loads. I bet you they all ‘kind of like leeds’, were their second team, can you blame them?
Radz has built a club with great structures in place, has put the club back into the community with players making various visits and all the other stuff that’s being going on.
I think he’s taking the club as far as he can and that’s making us a top six club, I think he wants to take another shot taking us up and will be surprised but happy if he sells

[SG90]

You know Radz made some of his money through the middle east? If you traced his wealth back you would probably find it came from all sorts of unsavory places. I dont agree with what goes on in the Middle East and places like that but bad things happen all over the world every day no matter who owns us.

We failed mate, we failed, we achieved nothing, we are back to square 1, Radz is going to sell key players, same as we have done every year for over 10 years.

We dont even know if he can afford to keep Bielsa.

Would you be so against it if the alternative is Bielsa leaves, Phillips leaves, Roofe leaves, Clarke leaves, because those are all very possible.

Or how about all that happens, Qatar buy Derby after they fail to get up and they get promoted next season while we fail again?

Arent you fed up of being a club used as a byword for failure?

I've said several times before I don't like Radz and what he stands for. He is greedy and is using us to make himself a profit. He has no morals about where money comes from either.

The Bielsa money came from the 49ers and the fans filling the ground every week.

Why can't we get a bit of investment without having to sell our souls for it? PSG owners are being investigated for corruption. Why would you want that at our club when we're finally stable off the field for once?

[Cjay]

I've said several times before I don't like Radz and what he stands for. He is greedy and is using us to make himself a profit. He has no morals about where money comes from either.

The Bielsa money came from the 49ers and the fans filling the ground every week.

Why can't we get a bit of investment without having to sell our souls for it? PSG owners are being investigated for corruption. Why would you want that at our club when we're finally stable off the field for once?

Because im sick of being the poor relation, be 30 next year, i was 14 when we were relegated, all those years of potless chancer after potless chancer trying to make a quick buck out of our club while many other "smaller" clubs laugh and walk past us.

Radz has done his best, i give him that, but he is for all intents and purposes the same as the rest, a bloke who wants to make a quick buck out of the club, he has done better then the others i suppose but the end result is still the same, we get passed by and sell key players.

If we ever hope to be a success again (think of our older fans from the Revie years having to live through the last 15 years, it must be a living nightmare), its bad enough for our younger fans but most of us havent known it any different for long anyway.

If ever we want to be a top side again, not a lower league joke or a mid table Premier league nobody, but one of the best in the land up near the top trying to win things then we need huge backers with funds and connections and all sorts.

I want to see a successful Leeds side, winning trophies and titles, thats never going to happen under Radz and owners like Radz, we as a fanbase have suffered for years, havent you had enough?

For what its worth i dont understand these fans saying "yeah id rather be non league then take the Qatari money", its a grand statement but i bet they wouldnt if it became a reality.

IN an ideal world a local businessman who was a Leeds fan would come along with billions of pounds and invest and make us succesful, but that isnt going to happen.

I dont agree with how the Qataris go about things, same for all the dodgy rich people in the world, of which many are tied up in Football, but their politics isnt my concern, i cant change it, LUFC is my concern.

[SG90]

I'm more fed up of living in a world where millions die for the greed, power and status of a minority. I'm fed up of this being enabled by a passive majority who don't speak up as long as it doesn't affect them directly.

I would also be more fed up if the club I supported suppressed all criticism of its corrupt owners.

What price 'success', seriously?

Well said Sara. It saddens me how many of our fans are willing to throw our history in the bin so we can maybe make the Champions League. Some of the stuff I've read in Twitter has been vile.

[Cjay]

I'm more fed up of living in a world where millions die for the greed, power and status of a minority. I'm fed up of this being enabled by a passive majority who don't speak up as long as it doesn't affect them directly.

I would also be more fed up if the club I supported suppressed all criticism of its corrupt owners.

What price 'success', seriously?

Thats the way the world is though and it always has been.

Millions of poor people die all over the world because the rich dont care enough to stop it, its the same in England as well its the same everywhere.

Thats not something that is unique to Qatar or the Middle East, America, China, Russia, England, it goes on everywhere even in so called developed countries like ours.

[Cjay]

Anyways, probably debating something that will never happen so

Going to go walk the dog.

[1964white]

Thats the way the world is though and it always has been.

Millions of poor people die all over the world because the rich dont care enough to stop it, its the same in England as well its the same everywhere.

Thats not something that is unique to Qatar or the Middle East, America, China, Russia, England, it goes on everywhere even in so called developed countries like ours.

We may as well give up on any success then Cjay

[SG90]

Because im sick of being the poor relation, be 30 next year, i was 14 when we were relegated, all those years of potless chancer after potless chancer trying to make a quick buck out of our club while many other "smaller" clubs laugh and walk past us.

Radz has done his best, i give him that, but he is for all intents and purposes the same as the rest, a bloke who wants to make a quick buck out of the club, he has done better then the others i suppose but the end result is still the same, we get passed by and sell key players.

If we ever hope to be a success again (think of our older fans from the Revie years having to live through the last 15 years, it must be a living nightmare), its bad enough for our younger fans but most of us havent known it any different for long anyway.

If ever we want to be a top side again, not a lower league joke or a mid table Premier league nobody, but one of the best in the land up near the top trying to win things then we need huge backers with funds and connections and all sorts.

I want to see a successful Leeds side, winning trophies and titles, thats never going to happen under Radz and owners like Radz, we as a fanbase have suffered for years, havent you had enough?

For what its worth i dont understand these fans saying "yeah id rather be non league then take the Qatari money", its a grand statement but i bet they wouldnt if it became a reality.

IN an ideal world a local businessman who was a Leeds fan would come along with billions of pounds and invest and make us succesful, but that isnt going to happen.

I dont agree with how the Qataris go about things, same for all the dodgy rich people in the world, of which many are tied up in Football, but their politics isnt my concern, i cant change it, LUFC is my concern.

You're the same age as me then, so you'd have seen the O'Leary team and remember it well. So why would you want us to make the Champions League via the financial doping route when we've done it through our academy? To me that isn't success, it's tainted and goes against everything football should be.

I don't really care for clubs who've bought their way up, Brighton, Bournemouth etc. The footballing bubble is about to burst due to overspending and clubs like us will benefit as we've lived within our means rather than being bankrolled and reliant on TV money or sugar daddies.

I'd rather Radz sold a stake to Steve Parkin or Russell Crowe if he needs more money. They are Leeds and they get what the club is about. Or even the 49ers as they already own a stake and seem decent people.

How much boardroom unrest would there be with Radz, 49ers and PSG all wanting a say?

These people have nothing to do with us and are using us to sportswash all the corruption they are involved in. We should stay well clear.

[SG90]

We may as well give up on any success then Cjay

I get the feeling some of our fans would take a takeover from Fred West or Jimmy Saville if they were billionaires.

[joelufc20]

Without proper investment we are fooked as far as competing with the big boys

Some of our fans are deluded if they think the current crop of all our U23's are capable of that sort of excellence, lets face it out of the kids that came out of our academy only James Milner & Danny Rose have played regularly for top four premiership teams. Delph rarely gets a game for Citeh these days

Totally agree. Some fans are quite happy sitting in the 2nd teir. I remember us winning the league in 92 and mostly competing for a top 5 finish through the 90s. This current setup is garbage and has been since relegation. If the qataris want to throw some money at us I'm all for it. If they don't invest in us they will invest in someone else anyway.

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[joelufc20]

Human right abuses
Slavery
Stoning of gay people
Treatment of women

Who wouldn't want that at our club?

For what it's worth, I wouldn't want an oil billionaire from the US, China taking us over either. The immense pride in our club over this season has been because we did it with little investment, just great coaching and young talent. It would feel hollow doing it with a team of PSG mercenaries kicking out our youth and spending obscene sums of money.

The we will continue to be s**t


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[Doire_Boi]

No we made a £4m loss. We're sustainably run and nowhere near dying. That's why this hurts, because we are finally heading in the right direction yet fans would be so happy to see us lose the club's soul.

Maybe the £20mil was the season before.. even running at a 4mil loss every season isnt going to acheive anything.. with an investment we could at least keep our team from last season which i believe would win the league this time around.

[Cjay]

Wonder who the other parties are?

We were on the verge of something special, Radz let that pass him by.

If he stubbornly refuses to accept help then he is playing a very dangerous game.

[Cjay]

We may as well give up on any success then Cjay

If we are hoping for a billionaire owner with an angel background then yes