1964white wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:17 pm
Of course they are
Just like the Klich brigade on here
The criticism for any slight error from Kalvin every week is ridiculous
Same with Pablo with the famous line "he gives the ball away too much", bl**dy hell he's gonna lose the ball at times because he dictates much of our attacking play
Every player in this Leeds team makes errors
Yes but when they do you come down on them like a ton of bricks..I remember you slagging Barardi off for the play off defeat, He played well both games got two yellows and he's a liability..Phillips should have been sent off for a second time in three games and it's an "error" we can ignore
Are you honestly sticking up for Phillips in that tackle?
"Never debate an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and they have the advantage of experience"
SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:13 pm
He let's the ball bounce rather than just clearing it out first time and then miskicks it. They always say "don't let the ball bounce".
The ball whipped through a packed area creating havoc for some messy defending, Forest got lucky as it dropped for them for one of the scruffiest goals you'll see all season
Anyway should the goal have been disallowed for a foul offence ?
1964white wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:30 pm
The ball whipped through a packed area creating havoc for some messy defending, Forest got lucky as it dropped for them for one of the scruffiest goals you'll see all season
Anyway should the goal have been disallowed for a foul offence ?
Yes, but I don't want to turn into Warnock and blame the refs all the time. We do our job and the ref is irrelevant.
SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:33 pm
Yes, but I don't want to turn into Warnock and blame the refs all the time. We do our job and the ref is irrelevant.
We got a break with Phillips and we should have played the game on the back foot with 10 men...at that point the latter decisions become irrelevant I guess. We'd have settled for the draw at that point I reckon
Phillips would still have been MOTM on the coach
"Never debate an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and they have the advantage of experience"
faaip wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:27 pm
Yes but when they do you come down on them like a ton of bricks..I remember you slagging Barardi off for the play off defeat, He played well both games got two yellows and he's a liability..Phillips should have been sent off for a second time in three games and it's an "error" we can ignore
Are you honestly sticking up for Phillips in that tackle?
No I can't condone that sort of tackle, I agree he needs to cut out those reckless challenges out of his game. The fact remains the ref showed leniency & he played well in the 90 minutes he was on the pitch
Btw I didn't think Cooper or Berardi were efficient in the Derby 2nd leg game, Wilson & Marriott ran them ragged through the heart of our defence. Berardi was superb in the first-leg
faaip wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:39 pm
We got a break with Phillips and we should have played the game on the back foot with 10 men...at that point the latter decisions become irrelevant I guess. We'd have settled for the draw at that point I reckon
Phillips would still have been MOTM on the coach
Yes I agree. If we blame the ref, we can't ignore Phillips' challenge. That said, Baldock made the same challenge for the Blunts and only got a yellow, so I dunno.
1964white wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:39 pm
No I can't condone that sort of tackle, I agree he needs to cut out those reckless challenges out of his game. The fact remains the ref showed leniency & he played well in the 90 minutes he was on the pitch
Btw I didn't think Cooper or Berardi were efficient in the Derby 2nd leg game, Wilson & Marriott ran them ragged through the heart of our defence. Berardi was superb in the first-leg
Beradi was excellent both legs...I score players on the whole game and Phillips got docked at least a point today in my rankings for it because he should have gotten sent off and left us a man down and then as I said maybe holding on for a 0-0 draw.. He couldn't know the ref would be lenient, I'd imagine he was expecting a red
"Never debate an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and they have the advantage of experience"
SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:33 pm
Yes, but I don't want to turn into Warnock and blame the refs all the time. We do our job and the ref is irrelevant.
So not disallowing their goal & waving away two penalties (one of them clear cut) didn't effect the result today?
SG90 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:42 pm
Yes I agree. If we blame the ref, we can't ignore Phillips' challenge. That said, Baldock made the same challenge for the Blunts and only got a yellow, so I dunno.
That's true ..so both teams down to ten maybe
"Never debate an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and they have the advantage of experience"
1964white wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:50 pm
So not disallowing their goal & waving away two penalties (one of them clear cut) didn't effect the result today?
The ref had a shocker!
Yeah the ref was poor, but we clear the corner or score one of our other chances, no one would be talking about the ref. I'm sure Forest fans will say we should have been down to 10 after 20 mins. The ref just becomes an excuse as we threw away 2 points.
I tend to just post my scores on this thread and not criticize others ratings. We all see things differently and TV coverage gives you angles you just don't get at the game.
"Never debate an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and they have the advantage of experience"
faaip wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:57 pm
I tend to just post my scores on this thread and not criticize others ratings. We all see things differently and TV coverage gives you angles you just don't get at the game.
This is so true - add to that the fact that we all like footballers who excel at different aspects of the game - all means a variety of opinions. I will also admit that listening to other people’s comments during the game does influence you too, more often than not for the good.
Lost count of the number of times walking away from Elland Road or the Rec and not agreeing with the guy stood next to me. ..Yours and my ratings were a case in point Norfolk, completely different and tbh I couldn't disagree with your top 6..I thought there was a fag paper between most performances today. I did as I say strike a point of Phillips though. An 8 would have been commensurate with the performance and I think a fair score if not for the foul
"Never debate an idiot, they'll only drag you down to their level and they have the advantage of experience"