Luton Town v Leeds Utd Match Thread

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Luton Town v Leeds United
Luton Town
Luton Town
1–2
Championship
23/11/2019
Kenilworth Road
Leeds United
Leeds United
All-time record vs Luton Town
51
Played
20
Won
17
Drawn
14
Lost
+5
GD
39%
Win %
Away record
25
Played
5
Won
11
Drawn
9
Lost
-14
GD
20%
Win %
DateGroundScoreCompetition
23/08/2016 Kenilworth Road 0–1 W EFL Cup 2nd Round
26/01/2008 Kenilworth Road 1–1 D League One
01/09/2007 Elland Road 1–0 W League One
10/03/2007 Elland Road 1–0 W Championship
21/10/2006 Kenilworth Road 5–1 L Championship
All-time top scorers vs Luton Town
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1 John Charles 9
2 Ray Iggleden 4
3 Billy Bremner 4
4 Len Browning 3
5 Peter Lorimer 3
Starting XI
Goa Casilla
Def Ayling ©
Def White
Def Berardi
Def Dallas
Mid Phillips
Mid Hernandez
Mid Klich
For Roberts
Mid Harrison
For Bamford
Substitutes
SUB Cooper
SUB Costa
SUB Clarke
Unused Substitutes
-- Meslier
-- Douglas
-- Alioski
-- Gotts
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dezzy wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:51 pm Berardi does a great job filling in at CB, but not a fan as him as our third choice CB, that is one of the most important places we need to strengthen
Yet another position we should have dealt with in the summer
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Seen the goal back.

Why is Ayling marking fresh air while Collins stands free as a bird?

Was he not alsothe player who lost his man for the Blackburn goal to?

Defensively Ayling leaves a lot to be desired, prefer Dallas at rb tbh.
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Re: Luton Town v Leeds Utd Match Thread - Hernandez starts, Costa and Cooper on the bench

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1964white wrote:

Yet another position we should have dealt with in the summer
I can't understand why Bielsa hasn't exerted more pressure on the club, unless he genuinely thinks he can cope without additional players in such important positions.
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1964white wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:32 pm Thought Brown went down far too easily, I'd need to see that incident again Ian

Was the offside decision incorrect ?
If you listened to the 2 Luton commentators it was, and the flag was far far too late :mrgreen:
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1964white wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:32 pm Thought Brown went down far too easily, I'd need to see that incident again Ian

Was the offside decision incorrect ?
It seemed KP just caught his foot, I have seen them given lets put it that way.

Re their disallowed goal, I have watched it a few times frame by frame , but there isnt as yet any behind the goal or in line video feed.

First of all awful defending again to allow them the original chance then Kiko instead of knocking it to his left seems to use his feet and the ball comes straight back out.

The original chance wasn't offside but it looked like the player who hit the rebound was slightly ahead of three Leeds defenders.
Harsh to chalk off by millimetres.

What made it trickier was that the Leeds player who was there to block the original cross was on the goal line but obviously ruled as "not active"
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hector wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:42 pm If you listened to the 2 Luton commentators it was, and the flag was far far too late :mrgreen:
Stupid twots

Linesmen are now instructed to put their flags up late

Those idiots were ranting about Roberts running off from the middle of the pitch (at least he was running not wasting time). The rule where subs had to walk around the pitch from where they were injured was scrapped due to safety reasons

Someone needs to hand those idiots a footy rule book to stop them spouting a load of bias crap over the airwaves
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1964white wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:57 pm Stupid twots

Linesmen are now instructed to put their flags up late

Those idiots were ranting about Roberts running off from the middle of the pitch (at least he was running not wasting time). The rule where subs had to walk around the pitch from where they were injured was scrapped due to safety reasons

Someone needs to hand those idiots a footy rule book to stop them spouting a load of bias crap over the airwaves
Check this out from earlier in the season.

[https://twitter.com/BBCSPORTNI/status/1 ... 78432?s=09]
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Having watched the replays of their disallowed goal, it was clearly off side
Re Izzy's foul, could have gone either way, but he seamed to fall over a second after contact...so he played for it and it back fired, just my opinion
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1964white wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:12 pm Yet another position we should have dealt with in the summer
Down to the manager though really, he was happy with three CBS and Berardi as one of them. Berardi has done really well overall playing there, he’s just liable more than others to mess up as it’s not his natural position. A frustrating one alright
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Norm wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:38 pm I can't understand why Bielsa hasn't exerted more pressure on the club, unless he genuinely thinks he can cope without additional players in such important positions.
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Velotrax wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:56 pm Having watched the replays of their disallowed goal, it was clearly off side
Re Izzy's foul, could have gone either way, but he seamed to fall over a second after contact...so he played for it and it back fired, just my opinion
As I thought on both counts Velo
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Irish Ian wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:35 pm Check this out from earlier in the season.

[https://twitter.com/BBCSPORTNI/status/1 ... 78432?s=09]
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1964white wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:12 pm Yet another position we should have dealt with in the summer
So who would be this defender that we could have brought in that would be happy to sit on the bench just waiting for injuries and suspensions and would also be better than Berardi?

I don't blame Berardi at all for the goal as he goes to block an initial cross from Brown, who he shouldn't even have had to be marking/tackling, but Brown shows considerable skill and speed to instead not cross and accelerate into a space and then put in a great cross.
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weasel wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:47 am So who would be this defender that we could have brought in that would be happy to sit on the bench just waiting for injuries and suspensions and would also be better than Berardi?

I don't blame Berardi at all for the goal as he goes to block an initial cross from Brown, who he shouldn't even have had to be marking/tackling, but Brown shows considerable skill and speed to instead not cross and accelerate into a space and then put in a great cross.
Other clubs have proper back-up CB's

Yes Berardi did get done for sheer pace from some great play by Brown who then did what we often fail to do by immediately planting a perfect ball onto the head of Collins where Ayling had lost his man at the back post. The problem was there to be seen as we were caught out in the air a couple of times, thankfully Bielsa saw it & once Cooper came on we took control & looked comfortable again. Proper CB's position themselves much better. Cooper & White are much more efficient in the air than the likes of Berardi & Ayling who are basically full-backs not CB's.
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1964white wrote: Thought Brown went down far too easily, I'd need to see that incident again Ian

Was the offside decision incorrect ?
My thoughts too.

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Just saw the "foul" on Brown and it was a blatant dive. Just because most refs fall for that these days, it doesn't make it a foul. Well done referee.
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I know I sound like a broken record but playing with just two recognised CB's & two strikers in your squad in a league that consists of 46 games over a season is dangerous especially if there are no back-ups in those positions coming through the U23 set-up. With the amount of injury-prone players we have within our ranks it's essential we have enough players who can play in their natural positions.
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this result for me papers over the cracks a bit -yes we are now 3 points clear of third and its a great result but we're having the same problems every single game right now - putting the ball in the back of the net. If it's not bamford or klich missing the chances, then its the opportunity being ruined by a bad pass etc. Promotion really does depend at this stage on whether we can scrape together enough goals to win enough games because there will be plenty (judging on this performance) where we aren't able to score enough goals to win games.
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SG90 wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:13 am Just saw the "foul" on Brown and it was a blatant dive. Just because most refs fall for that these days, it doesn't make it a foul. Well done referee.
Those bias nampy pampy southerners thought it was a foul, I've never known commentators whinge so much!

I love the way Kalvin stood his ground & gave him the glare thinking what the f**k are you rolling around on the ground for you soft sod :lol:
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No Luton player completed more passes than Leeds goalkeeper Kiko Casilla, (22 in all).
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