The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by Ellandback1 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:18 am



Good Morning. It's Tuesday 11th February, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


Jansson opens up about his time at Elland Road

Ahead of tonight's crunch game at Griffin Park, former Leeds favourite Pontus Jansson has been speaking to the Press about his time at Leeds.

If you look at the Arsenal game [in the FA Cup], I was there at the Emirates and Leeds played fantastic. It was the same against QPR, when they lost 1-0. They were good enough to win so sometimes it is just small things.

Maybe not so much in this time of year – I think this time of year I was flying, playing really good – but around March and the beginning of April, especially after the international break, I felt really tired.

Maybe that was because I became a father and maybe I was not sleeping as well, but you would have to ask every individual to get a true answer. Towards the end of last season I felt more mentally tired than physically tired. Maybe it is a common thing and this year it is happening the same as last year for them, but it is difficult to say.

I grew a lot last season, the things that I learned from him and we learned as a team, they are things I will take with me for the rest of my life. I learned so much: how to take care of your body; how well-trained you have to be to play in such a good team; how you have to be on the pitch both physically and mentally; how to learn to read the game, so many things that you could learn from. He also had bad sides – every person has a bad side – but there are so many things I learned from Bielsa.

Asked if he feels misunderstood, Jansson replied...
Yeah, but that’s an easy thing to do, especially nowadays with social media because it is so easy to find one bad thing about a player and you can spread it around the country and around the world.

I have done some bad things on the pitch, like the Aston Villa incident, but that is just how I am. On the pitch maybe I am not the best person but off the pitch I am always respectful. Maybe it has changed a little bit over the years. When I came three years ago, I needed to come into the league and make myself a name but now, four years later, I am more taking care of my teammates as a captain and trying to help them perform well than looking to myself.”

If I could choose the top two teams to go up, I’d choose us and them [Leeds], of course. I still have Leeds on my heart – that does not change just because I left. I will love Leeds until I die, and the same with Brentford. But I’d be lying if I said I don’t want Leeds to lose every game now, because I want us to pass them in the table.

I still have a lot of friends in the team, I talk to the owner and some of the staff, so I want the best for them, but it is difficult when you are fighting against them for the top two spots.




Bielsa's Pre Match Press Conference




Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Soccer Pundit Danny Murphy has been talking to talkSport about Leeds current predicament, and believes it is likely for the second half of the season to replicate itself this term.

They’ve done it again, haven’t they. They’ve had this tremendous run, got that lead and then they just get pulled back. I think that’s partly to do with the intensity they play at.

I’ve got a feeling Fulham will do it now with West Brom, and the rest will fight it out in the play-offs which is a lottery isn’t it.

I believe Murphy speaks a lot of sense when he talks about intensity. That has nothing to do with the players fitness. Clearly Leeds have one of the fittest squads in the league, but when was the last time you saw Leeds chase down an opposition player to get the ball back having just lost it?

How many times in the last 6 weeks have we seen opposition players make surging 50-60 yard runs without being intercepted? It's the intensity that is going to make the difference who's going to get to the 50/50 balls or gain that vital half a yard. For me, that is what Leeds have lost since mid December.



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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by YorkshireSquare » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:36 am

The thing is, we haven't have we?

We still run as hard, we still dominate the ball, we still create chances. We just dont put them away. That's not just down to Bamford either but Pablo, Klich, Harrison and Costa. Even the two centre backs should be chipping in with goals from corners.

But to say we have "lost intensity" implies he hasn't seen us play.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by Chilli D » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:48 am

Morning All,

Having Kalvin back tonight will give some much needed extra protection to the back four and I think he is going to be a busy man as we are probably going to spend a lot of time under the cosh.
Chances will be at a premium and we simply have to take any we get.
Yet despite their formidable front three they are still behind us on points and it took an 87th minute winner to beat Boro on Saturday so if we play how we can, we have a chance.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by weasel » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:00 am

Well said YS. Talskport were having a discussion about Leeds yesterday and spouting the same claptop about burnout etc. They then knocked us for not doing enough with our possession and shots at goal. They said we had 72% of possession against Forest and more shots than them yet then continued to spout the usual claptrap about us being burnt out. How does a side dominate possession and have more shots if they are burnt out? It is hardly like we play like Jaap Stam's Reading where they dominated possession becuse they never got out of their own half.

Talksport and Danny Murphy and all these supposed experts simply spout the burntout/intensity shite without having even seen us play. If we were being overrun then yes I would be worried about burn out but that has yet to be the case. It isn't even like the stats are close in most of the games we play we usually have 15-20 shots whilst the opposition struggle to muster 5. That is not a burnt out side. Against Forest the only reason they looked any good was because we were dire in the final third. We constantly gave the ball away when we were attacking and when you do that, especially with lots of players committed forward, it is easier for the opposition to break and look dangerous.

People are obsessed with that clip when we had 7 or 8 players chase back to get the ball back when I think it was Wigan broke against us. Well how many other clips have we got like that? So were we burnt out in any other match where we didn't do that?

If we put the ball in the net once for every 7 or 8 chances we create then this burn out nonsense will go away. We played well against Arsenal but we didn't put the ball in the net. Were we burnt out then? We must have been because we lost. Any team will look jaded if they keep missing chances as they will simply feel like they will never score no matter how well they play - and that is the crux we are generally playing well, not scoring and then the opposition get a goal from nothing and we then look tired because we lack the belief that we will score. Against Millwall we got the first goal back and suddenly the team believed they could score and as such it gave every player the lift. That we have scored 4 goals in the last 6 (or is it more) matches and 3 came against Millwall tells the real story, not this burnt out claptrap. If we were getting out played and losing 2-1 or 3-2 every game then it is a different story but it isn't. The fact is that if a team scores nil, whether they play brilliantly or poorly, they will not win a match.
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Post by BGwhite » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:12 am

Whatever the reasons are there's more than a good chance we'll be outside the playoffs by Saturday evening unless Leeds stop the rot.

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by Mick Jones shoulder » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:26 am

You can be as fit as a butchers dog doesn't mean you have it upstairs. Let's be proven wrong

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by hector » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:41 am

Mick Jones shoulder wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:26 am
You can be as fit as a butchers dog doesn't mean you have it upstairs
perfect description of the para's :mrgreen:
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by rrfierce » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:15 am

i genuinely think that the club should have employed a pyschologist after last season.

Its not too late to do so and it could make all the difference. The players just need to believe again and get their confidence back.

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Post by Irish Ian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:29 am

Notwithstanding what Talk sport have to say about Leeds we have to face up to playing the same players each week without a rest is unprecedented in this league.

46 matches. The Premiership plays 8 games less, has a longer season and has the same International breaks and has a winter break as well!

The likes of Klich, Dallas, and Alioski also have International responsibilities to fulfil.

Using fresh players over the course of the season is a risk most managers are prepared to take for the sake of mounting a title challenge.

Not here though.
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Post by weasel » Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:55 pm

Irish Ian wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:29 am
Notwithstanding what Talk sport have to say about Leeds we have to face up to playing the same players each week without a rest is unprecedented in this league.

46 matches. The Premiership plays 8 games less, has a longer season and has the same International breaks and has a winter break as well!

The likes of Klich, Dallas, and Alioski also have International responsibilities to fulfil.

Using fresh players over the course of the season is a risk most managers are prepared to take for the sake of mounting a title challenge.

Not here though.
Teams in the premiership though are likely to have more FA Cup matches, more league cup matches and some even play European matches.
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Post by Irish Ian » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:38 pm

weasel wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:55 pm
Teams in the premiership though are likely to have more FA Cup matches, more league cup matches and some even play European matches.
Some do thats true, but most dont.

Look at the last 16 of the FA Cup.

8 Prem
7 Championship
One League 1.



Leeds actually have 22 but 5 of them have hardly kicked a ball.
WBA list 35.
Brentford 37
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by SG90 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:43 pm

Bored of all these "experts". It's because we play the same team every week, so bad form and lack of confidence carries through the team. We will probably have a good run again soon, as always happens, but it will probably be too little, too late.
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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 11th February) - Danny Murphy - Leeds have lost their intensity

Post by weasel » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:56 pm

The only signs I see of burn out is from teams the match after they play us. They give their all against us chasing for 90 minutes and then have nothing left the following game - Forest just one more example losing to a team they should beat after playing against us.
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