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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 13th May) EFL meeting will define season

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Good Morning. It's Wednesday 13th May, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road...


EFL meeting will define season

The EFL will hold crucial talks today with all 72 clubs via a video conference call which will define the 2019/20 season, and may have huge repercussions for the future.

Clubs outside the top flight have been hit hard by the economic impact of the coronavirus. The bottom team in the Premiership (Norwich) earn 97m more then Leeds, top of the Championship - where is the fairness in that? The financial predicament of clubs in the lower leagues are even worse than the Championship. Most League one and two clubs live hand to mouth and rely heavily on supporters coming through the turnstiles to balance the books. The last two months have seen many clubs stare bankruptcy in the face as they wait for today's meeting to put them out of their misery.

It is expected time will be called on Leagues One and Two with the remainder of the matches mathematically concluded via a points per game tally. It's a shame this decision was not made sooner.

The EFL will introduce new measures today in a bid to try and persuade Championship clubs to fulfil their remaining 9 games.

Out of contract players will certainly be high on the agenda as their contracts expire at the end of June. This would leave teams desperately short of players as in recent years clubs outside the Premier League have relied on talent being passed down, improving the quality of the lower league team, but providing valuable experience for the stars of the future. It has been revealed today that both Ben White and Jack Harrison are set to sign short term extensions.

The EFL have supported clubs that want to play their remaining games at their home grounds but this would require approval from the government, who have made it clear that the risk of large social gatherings must be avoided.

Former player Noel Whelan believes that playing matches at neutral venues will make no difference!

That is the way that it is but fans have cars, they can travel to neutral venues.

Leeds fans will celebrate, just like Liverpool fans will celebrate if they win the title. Whether it be in the street, in the park, outside the stadium – it makes no difference.

You cannot control people’s decisions and what they do. All you can control is the football side of it.

If people gather outside the ground the police would have to do the job that they would normally do in and around the community which is disperse them and get them away.

You will not get thousands and thousands there. It will be a very small minority.

The play off's are likely to be one leg at a neutral ground, with the final being played at Wembley.

To help fitness levels which may have dropped over the last eight weeks, the International Football Association Board have temporarily increased the number of substitutes allowed in a game to five.

There will be specific points in a match where they can be used to save time.

Approval is currently being sought from the Government regarding a return to training. Once this has been obtained, and all being well, a start date can be set.


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Clubs at the bottom of the prem apparently trying to prevent relegation from another angle now saying relegation should be scrapped if the championship dosnt complete its fixtures. As completely separate entities how the EFl decide to end the leagues is nothing to do with prem clubs. It's not thought that this will gather much support from the other premier league clubs though so unlikely to happen, just another desperate attempt.

Hopefully today league one and two will be stopped and the method used will set a precedent for the championship - fingers crossed its not voiding it all.
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Ugh. Love that the apotheosis of our season is... a meeting. So sad.
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French Ligue 1 club Amiens have started legal proceedings against French football because the league was terminated early and as such Amiens were relegated despite being only four points from safety with 10 games remaining.
This is the shape of things to come if leagues are not completed.
What a mess.
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I know that so far the prospect of having no relegation from/promotion to the Premier League has seemingly been ruled out, but if the Championship does not finish the season properly, that may give the anti-relegation voices in the Premier League some ammunition.
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If a league was set to be cancelled then for me promotion and relegation should apply. But why not take 2 measurements into consideration and then if for example WBA and Leeds finished in the top 2 positions in both cases then no real argument to promote them both. If however 1 team, let's say Leeds only finished top 2 in 1 measurement and say 3rd in another then Leeds and the other team that finished top 2 in 1 of the measurements could have a one-off match to decide who finished in the top 2 (the loser would stay in a play off place). Same process for deciding who qualifies for play-off places and still play the play-off matches (2 neutral semi finals and the final). Same process to decide relegation places.

This would see a handful of matches being played rather than 100s and would save a load of meaningless mid table matches being played. If a team qualified for a place in both measurements then I don't really feel other teams would have much of an argument that that team had deserved their place. In such a way I feel all the EFL leagues could be brought to a satisfactory conclusion, or as close as you could get cos someone will always complain but ultimately close calls can be settled on the pitch.

Playing just a handful of matches too also allows a lot more time to as you could play all matches within a two week window so if for example the season had to finish by July 31st it means you would have until the middle of July to start up rather than having to play 5 or 6 weeks of fixtures. You would also be able to play all the matches fairly at neutral behind closed doors venues as there wouldn't be the home or away issues.
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This is all going to get very messy and undignified with clubs spouting whatever line suits them.

I do think relegating teams is unfair and would much prefer the season to be completed the right way and for us to win promotion.

However its not right to void a season that is nearly finished to save a season that may not start for 6 months, 12months, 18months, who knows.

If its voided then imo the bottom 6 of the Premier league must all be treated as if they were relegated and the top 6 of the Championship treated as if they were promoted.

The parachute payments usually given to the bottom 3 split between the bottom 6 and the money the 3 promoted teams get is split between the top 6 with more given the higher up the league you are (yes i know that clearly favours us but we are top so deserve extra).

Imo it wouldnt be right to just void the season and have everything go as normal.

Teams in the Championship deserve extra compensation for having good seasons ruined and teams in the Prem that havent had good seasons cant be allowed to continue on the gravy train through no credit of there own.

Championship teams would need to be well compensated

The cynic in me wonders if this suggestion was put to the EPL how many of the bottom 6 would change there tunes?

Definitely isnt about money im sure . . . . .
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Championship season set to restart on 6th June
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Ellandback1 wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:15 pm Championship season set to restart on 6th June
I can't see any news about this?
Where did you see this EB?
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I can't see it restarting anytime soon. One player will just need to test positive and it will be cancelled again.
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Chilli D wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:27 pm I can't see any news about this?
Where did you see this EB?
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english ... ue-sources
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Chilli D wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:27 pm I can't see any news about this?
Where did you see this EB?
Its just breaking now...

https://europe.easybranches.com/ireland/2226376

https://the72.co.uk/165445/championship ... er-league/
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I'm not sure where those sites got the return date info from.

The latest official statement from the EFL is that clubs should wait until at least 25/5 before even returning to training.

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EFL: Championship clubs aim for 25 May training date after conference meeting

Championship clubs hope to gain government clearance for a 25 May return to regular training, as part of plans to resume the 2019-20 season.

It is understood a target restart of 6 June has been discussed but clubs still anticipate a more likely 13 June date, in line with the Premier League.

All 24 clubs held a conference call on Wednesday, after an EFL board meeting.

League One and Two clubs will speak on Friday, when the prospect of ending the season seems certain to move closer.

The plan for the Championship is still to complete the season, thereby avoiding avoid a potential legal minefield around promotion and relegation if the campaign ends early but the Premier League plays to a conclusion.

BBC Radio Manchester has acquired a copy of the EFL's 'return to training' draft protocols, which are based around current government guidelines for Covid-19 protocols.

These requirements are very similar to those of the Premier League, around disinfecting football equipment, keeping communal areas of the training ground such as gyms and changing rooms closed, and no tackling or contact sessions.

Clubs must appoint a specialist Covid-19 officer, and draw up an operational policy which players and staff must sign
Twice weekly coronavirus antibody tests and temperature screening protocols for players and staff - a positive test means the training group self isolates for 14 days
Players must arrive already changed and provide their own drinks
No 'manual therapy treatment' such as massages. Only essential medical treatment allowed with minimum staffing and provision of personal protection equipment
All tactical sessions and session planning that does not require physical presence should be done by tele/video conference
Training will be phased, small groups through to full squad sessions. Each training group allocated one pitch, and maximum of five per group, plus three staff. Seventy-five minutes per training session. Thirty minutes' gap between each training group session
No tackling, opposed activities of any kind or congested training are allowed
Clubs can provide takeaway food options for players
An EFL statement, released following Wednesday's board meeting, pointed to a need to acknowledge the financial shortfall that would accompany the game restarting behind closed doors.

While the resumption of competition would satisfy commitments to broadcasters, the costs related to meeting hygiene and testing protocols, as well as a lack of regular matchday income, have to be taken into account.

"The EFL will continue to undertake consultation with our members before the next steps are determined," the statement read.

"Current attention is clearly on the immediate next steps, but the long-term impact on the league and its clubs remains as stark as previously outlined, and solutions are still required to fill the financial hole left by the crisis. The consequences of the Covid-19 pandemic will not be rectified simply by a return to play behind closed doors.

"In addition, the EFL is mindful of the pressing need for clarity in a number of areas, including the practicalities and timeframes of clubs being able to facilitate a return to training. To address this, clubs have today been issued with the latest draft of the EFL's 'return to training protocols', so that they can prepare appropriately.

"However, until all outstanding matters are concluded, including finalising a comprehensive testing programme on matchdays and non-matchdays, the EFL board has informed its clubs that a return to training should not take place until 25 May at the earliest."
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