The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th July) - Can it get any better than this?

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 20th July) Can it get any better?

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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:11 am But they have changed strategy, last season they were similar to us in their goals.

With Cocu they are on a rebuild they aren't equipped to promote.
Bielsa showed with the way he transformed us into a team playing beautiful football that you can rebuild a team without having to rebuild a team. No excuses for managers who come out with the lines it will take time etc etc or I need a few new players etc etc.
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1964white wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:23 am I think it's safe to say we don't miss Klich as much as we miss Pablo
Because we won without him? Strange comment 64.
We have won and lost with Klich playing and the same with Pablo playing so not sure what you point of reference is?
Care to elaborate your statement?
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All the naysayers can be ignored.

Fornicate off - we are busy celebrating a Championship win and some of our recent insulting members can only give us undeserved negatives.
Go pick your noses and scratch your arses somewhere else.
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Chilli D wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:48 am Because we won without him? Strange comment 64.
We have won and lost with Klich playing and the same with Pablo playing so not sure what you point of reference is?
Care to elaborate your statement?
We've never had to manage without Klich under Bielsa's management, yesterday was the test, truth be told we didn't miss Klich, not denying his qualities in any way as he is a top player for Leeds

We've missed Pablo in several games when he's unavailable to play, our performances are not great without the little man conducting the orchestra as was the case in the first-half in many of the games since the return of football. Even Klich misses not having Pablo beside him to dictate our play, Mateusz looks much more accomplished when Pablo is pulling the strings.

Yesterday Pablo played a full 90 minutes looking as fit as a butchers dog dictating & orchestrating the play with a bunch of kids in the middle of the park.
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1964white wrote: We've never had to manage without Klich under Bielsa's management, yesterday was the test, truth be told we didn't miss Klich, not denying his qualities in any way as he is a top player for Leeds

We've missed Pablo in several games when he's unavailable to play, our performances are not great without the little man conducting the orchestra as was the case in the first-half in many of the games since the return of football. Even Klich misses not having Pablo beside him to dictate our play, Mateusz looks much more accomplished when Pablo is pulling the strings.

Yesterday Pablo played a full 90 minutes looking as fit as a butchers dog dictating & orchestrating the play with a bunch of kids in the middle of the park.
I think the last paragraph sums it up. MB wanted someone on the pitch to organise the kids and Pablo is the obvious choice to take the lead and influence them hence his display . I got the feeling he would have played another game straight away because he enjoyed it so much. We need to keep of our magician in a coaching capacity when the time comes. Klich isn't at Pablo's level and deserved a rest.

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Klich was still pissed!!!!!
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1964white wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:16 pm We've never had to manage without Klich under Bielsa's management, yesterday was the test, truth be told we didn't miss Klich, not denying his qualities in any way as he is a top player for Leeds

We've missed Pablo in several games when he's unavailable to play, our performances are not great without the little man conducting the orchestra as was the case in the first-half in many of the games since the return of football. Even Klich misses not having Pablo beside him to dictate our play, Mateusz looks much more accomplished when Pablo is pulling the strings.

Yesterday Pablo played a full 90 minutes looking as fit as a butchers dog dictating & orchestrating the play with a bunch of kids in the middle of the park.
Not saying you're wrong 64, but I can't say you're right either.

One match against an apathetic Derby side with nothing to play for isn't much of a sample size. I do think what Klich brings is more readily replaceable than what Pablo does, but if we had to go four or five games without Klich midseason I suspect we would see that his boots aren't all that easy to fill. His stamina and consistency in the middle for two straight seasons has been remarkable and I don't like to imagine this side without him in it.
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onemoreslogan wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:41 pm Not saying you're wrong 64, but I can't say you're right either.

One match against an apathetic Derby side with nothing to play for isn't much of a sample size. I do think what Klich brings is more readily replaceable than what Pablo does, but if we had to go four or five games without Klich midseason I suspect we would see that his boots aren't all that easy to fill. His stamina and consistency in the middle for two straight seasons has been remarkable and I don't like to imagine this side without him in it.
I did say Klich is a top player for Leeds, just think we miss the quality of Pablo more then any other player in our squad.
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BGwhite wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:17 am Just checked the table.... we're still top !!
You're right, but I did have to look myself just to make sure
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weasel wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:18 am Bielsa showed with the way he transformed us into a team playing beautiful football that you can rebuild a team without having to rebuild a team. No excuses for managers who come out with the lines it will take time etc etc or I need a few new players etc etc.
Truth, And that's why I don't think we'll be going to heavy into the transfer market
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andrewjohnsmith wrote: You're right, but I did have to look myself just to make sure
Glad you confirmed it Image

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Chilli D wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:48 am Because we won without him? Strange comment 64.
We have won and lost with Klich playing and the same with Pablo playing so not sure what you point of reference is?
Care to elaborate your statement?
I did elaborate Chilli :)
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1964white wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:20 pm I did elaborate Chilli :)
Yes, thank you 64
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