USA Elections

For everything Leeds United related and everything not - Have your say... the Marching on Together way!
Forum rules
Please be sure you are acquainted with the forum rules outlined within our FAQs.

Help support the site by using our Amazon Affiliate link when making any purchases from Amazon.
Post Reply
User avatar
Lumiukko
First Team
First Team
Posts: 2375
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:29 pm
Location: Santa Monica, USA

Re: USA Elections

Post by Lumiukko »

Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:58 pm I also read somewhere that Donald had pissed him off, and he let him know... :lol:
Wonder if Trump would dare to ask him for a fight? :lol:
User avatar
Smudge3920
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5203
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:08 pm
Location: Canada

Re: USA Elections

Post by Smudge3920 »

Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:59 pm Just as a side note about Climate Change. Interesting documentary presented by Michael Moore. It was a eye opener for me. I will post the link if anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE
I have seen that before mate, I have to admit I am one of those who found it easier to deny climate change than truly get involved... my view has been changed. Took a long time, but it has been changed.
User avatar
Smudge3920
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5203
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:08 pm
Location: Canada

Re: USA Elections

Post by Smudge3920 »

Lumiukko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:05 pm Wonder if Trump would dare to ask him for a fight? :lol:
Nah mate ...Trump is your classic bully and coward... :evil:
rab_rant

Re: USA Elections

Post by rab_rant »

Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:13 pm Nah mate ...Trump is your classic bully and coward... :evil:
No matter who challenges Trump he will come up with the classic playground trick of giving
them a childish or abusive nickname "Sleepy Joe Biden" or "Crooked Hillary" or "Little Rocket man"
"Low energy Jeb" or "Shady James Comey" or "Mad Dog James Mattis"or "Basically Braindead Bernie"

You have to wonder what he thinks about the dignity of the office. And one fears that although
he boasts about having TIPSY TOPSY nuclear weapons in any military confrontation his first
response would be to resort to some childish name calling.
Infantile behaviour.
Leeds1000
Manager
Manager
Posts: 4157
Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:11 pm

Re: USA Elections

Post by Leeds1000 »

This guy really is worth a listen if you have never heard him speak before. He does tend to give it from a perspective that we never get in the media over here in the UK. I remember when the BLM movement and the rioting kicked off in the States after the George Floyd incident. I remember listening to OT talking about respectable Black retired Police chief David Dorn being fatally shot by the looters why trying to protect his friends business and thinking why is this not making the MSM over here?
User avatar
Smudge3920
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5203
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:08 pm
Location: Canada

Re: USA Elections

Post by Smudge3920 »

Leeds1000 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:30 pm This guy really is worth a listen if you have never heard him speak before. He does tend to give it from a perspective that we never get in the media over here in the UK. I remember when the BLM movement and the rioting kicked off in the States after the George Floyd incident. I remember listening to OT talking about respectable Black retired Police chief David Dorn being fatally shot by the looters why trying to protect his friends business and thinking why is this not making the MSM over here?

It is a deeply rooted problem absolutely...both far right and far left trying to get an edge ...A lot of black flag exercises going on, as always in these type of things.
User avatar
hector
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 14623
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:57 am
Location: In a wood

Re: USA Elections

Post by hector »

Smudge3920 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:28 pm It is a deeply rooted problem absolutely...both far right and far left trying to get an edge ...A lot of black flag exercises going on, as always in these type of things.
Racist :P :P

:) :)
Hopelessly lost.................. But making good time
User avatar
Smudge3920
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5203
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:08 pm
Location: Canada

Re: USA Elections

Post by Smudge3920 »

hector wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:48 pm Racist :P :P

:) :)
I was going to say Rainbow flag exercises ... :lol:
User avatar
John in Louisiana
Site Contributor
Site Contributor
Posts: 13914
Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:09 pm
Location: No Longer Lousiana - Southern Illinois

Re: USA Elections

Post by John in Louisiana »

rab_rant wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:07 pm In 2016, months of national polls confidently showed Hillary Clinton ahead, and set many Americans up for a shock on Election Night, when the Electoral College tilted decisively in Trump’s favor. Two pollsters who weren’t blindsided by this are Arie Kapteyn and Robert Cahaly. Kapteyn, a Dutch economist who leads the USC’s Dornsife Center for Economic and Social Research, oversaw the USC/Los Angeles Times poll that gave Trump a 3-point lead heading into election day

In 2020 the National polls are predicting a Biden win yet the independent pollsters are again predicting an upset.

This year, both men believe that polls could again be undercounting Trump’s support. The reason is “shy” Trump voters—people reluctant to share their opinions for fear of being judged. Though the “shy voter” idea is thrown around a lot by both Trump supporters and Democratic skeptics, Kapteyn and Cahaly have specific insights into why, and how, Trump support might be going undetected.

Brexit after all succeeded by targeting a hidden demographic. I wonder if Trump has learnt some lessons from Farage.

Sent from my Redmi Note 8 Pro using Tapatalk
A common misconception. The polls were off four years ago, but not by nearly as much as people think. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by over two percentage points (48.2% - 46.1%), which translates into nearly three million votes. That was just a bit below the aggregate of the opinion polls prior to the election, which showed Clinton up by a little over three points.

Here's a great article on where things stand right now from Nate Silver, whose 538Politics organization came closest to predicting the 2016 outcome, saying Trump had a roughly one in three chance of winning. The actual results were within one normal polling error of expectations (normal polling error is explained in the article).

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tr ... n-in-2016/

I am holding my breath until Tuesday night. The world can't afford another four years of this.......person.
rab_rant

Re: USA Elections

Post by rab_rant »

Voter suppression in its many forms.

https://youtu.be/_F8Ot8IFLGw

Sent from my Redmi Note 8 Pro using Tapatalk

rab_rant

Re: USA Elections

Post by rab_rant »

Obama rips Trump a new one

https://youtu.be/p8LJXZMiNik

Sent from my Redmi Note 8 Pro using Tapatalk

User avatar
John in Louisiana
Site Contributor
Site Contributor
Posts: 13914
Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:09 pm
Location: No Longer Lousiana - Southern Illinois

Re: USA Elections

Post by John in Louisiana »

WhiteRose wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:43 pm I am not seeking to defend trump. :Lol:

Mail voting is pretty dodgy to be honest it is easily open to fraud anyone can see that but it suits the democrats at the moment to support it.

We are never going to agree but the proof will be in the pudding, biden will be 8 years if he makes it that long of smoke and mirrors just like Obama and leave large swathes of the country a mess again. Hopefully wrong but we shall see.
Sure sounds like you're defending Trump.

Voting by mail has been done in the US for many years. A number of states - including Republican states - vote by mail ONLY. There has never been any significant incidence of fraud.
User avatar
LUFC_BOS
Youth Team
Youth Team
Posts: 249
Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:54 pm
Location: Boston , Massachusetts, USA

Re: USA Elections

Post by LUFC_BOS »

A year long incessant talk will finally come to a conclusion tomorrow. For the folks in the US who can vote , please go vote if you have not already

This is a consequential election whatever your political leaning, make your voice heard.

Will see how the country reacts after ALL the votes are counted.
rab_rant

Re: USA Elections

Post by rab_rant »

What makes America the greatest country in the worldImageImageImageImage

https://youtu.be/wTjMqda19wk

Sent from my SM-T515 using Tapatalk

User avatar
Smudge3920
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5203
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:08 pm
Location: Canada

Re: USA Elections

Post by Smudge3920 »

Some will say sentimental claptrap... But I have always said since the first time I heard this song...

It should be the world's National anthem...
User avatar
Smudge3920
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 5203
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:08 pm
Location: Canada

Re: USA Elections

Post by Smudge3920 »

rab_rant wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:48 pm What makes America the greatest country in the worldImageImageImageImage

https://youtu.be/wTjMqda19wk

Sent from my SM-T515 using Tapatalk
The image didnt post mate... methinks you are being sarcastic :duno: ...If not, I question your rational mate :lol:

Personally, I think we can all learn from the Scandinavian countries, some of the model's used are exceptional.
User avatar
Lumiukko
First Team
First Team
Posts: 2375
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:29 pm
Location: Santa Monica, USA

Re: USA Elections

Post by Lumiukko »

How are we all feeling? Must admit I feel a bit nervous, even though everything points to a blowout in favour of Biden. A number of shops and businesses in my neighborhood have pre-emptively boarded up their store fronts in anticipation of potential unrest. Must get out and run my errands shortly as I suspect they'll close up early today.
User avatar
HarryofOz
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 16442
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:46 am

Re: USA Elections

Post by HarryofOz »

Lumiukko wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:46 pm How are we all feeling? Must admit I feel a bit nervous, even though everything points to a blowout in favour of Biden. A number of shops and businesses in my neighborhood have pre-emptively boarded up their store fronts in anticipation of potential unrest. Must get out and run my errands shortly as I suspect they'll close up early today.
I won't be counting my chickens. Too many polls have been wrong recently,
Un Marcelo Bielsa, solo hay un Marcelo Bielsa. Gracias Marcello. Marsching on together.
User avatar
The Subhuman
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 78986
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
Location: God's own county

Re: USA Elections

Post by The Subhuman »

Good luck Lumiukko...Going to be an interesting few hours
"A mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work if it's not open"
User avatar
The Subhuman
Superstar
Superstar
Posts: 78986
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:03 am
Location: God's own county

Re: USA Elections

Post by The Subhuman »

HarryofOz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:49 pm I won't be counting my chickens. Too many polls have been wrong recently,
One Pole that's never wrong

Image
"A mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work if it's not open"
Post Reply