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Manchester United v Leeds United
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6–2
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20/12/2020
Old Trafford
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Concede three or more goals in six, yes SIX, games so far
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Style is to open against better players.

Admirable but naive.

How many misplaced passes ?

Man for man with lesser players was showed up today imo, admirable but no excuse for the amount of goals we are conceding, 28 goals already.

Just player vs player its a mismatch we saw it in the finishing to.

MB got it wrong imo, expected to lose or not 6-2 is embarrassing

We are far to open and quickly becoming a soft touch defensively.
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I’ll keep this short and sweet. I’m not embarrassed at all at losing today, it’s hardly a shock taking everything into account. What’s embarrassing is the reaction by some fans on this and other ‘fan’ forums. For heaven’s sake, get a grip.
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This really has been a shocker, I understand MB sticking g to his usual methods. However we really don't have the quality to do this against such sides, we just end up looking vulnerable and 'naive'. The amount of times our keeper has kept the scoreline respectable in quite a few games, is a concern. January, the club will need invest again and our Championship defence needs to be phased out.
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danhirons wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:26 pm Concede three or more goals in six, yes SIX, games so far
Our defending is atrocious.
We're an up and down team, win one lose one, etc.
We'll get better in time as the squad gets stronger.
At the moment we're nowhere near the level of the top 6 teams
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Beaten by the better team in a very entertaining game of football.

I hope the Cooper injury is not too serious, though it looked quite bad.
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Denman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:27 pm I’ll keep this short and sweet. I’m not embarrassed at all at losing today, it’s hardly a shock taking everything into account. What’s embarrassing is the reaction by some fans on this and other ‘fan’ forums. For heaven’s sake, get a grip.
Losing 6-2 to our big rivals is ok is it?

Not in my book, better man for man or not we make it so easy and thats not ok and criticism is well deserved
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So many people on the players backs.

I am still proud of my team, all still wanted the ball, no heads went down.

Cut out the silly mistakes and we get a lot closer to wins.
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Denman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:27 pm I’ll keep this short and sweet. I’m not embarrassed at all at losing today, it’s hardly a shock taking everything into account. What’s embarrassing is the reaction by some fans on this and other ‘fan’ forums. For heaven’s sake, get a grip.
Awful reactions from people that should know better here...We actually looked as good as ever going forward and we're really unlucky not to score at least 4. We competed for sure and with a settled defence I think we can win the return
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Well that's what you get folks with 9 attacking players on the pitch for Leeds. A dull boring 6-2 and in truth it could have been 15-8.

Lets hope Coops is not badly injured else it really has been a night from Hell. I am not pointing the finger at anyone, it is what it is. We will play the same all season hopefully we will win enough to keep us up. Marcelo is not going to change and why should he, we have had 15 goals in the last 2 games alone. Has the Jam put it well....THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT!.

Mctominay performed like he was Rivaldo in that game. I would fancy my chances running through our CM and i am well past my sell by date? Why? Well, cos it doesn't exist. People who just see the result will be thinking MU are world beaters, back on track and all that guff, the truth is any side who has enough quality on the break will do that to us. Hopefully there are not too many that will be so clinical.

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Denman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:27 pm I’ll keep this short and sweet. I’m not embarrassed at all at losing today, it’s hardly a shock taking everything into account. What’s embarrassing is the reaction by some fans on this and other ‘fan’ forums. For heaven’s sake, get a grip.
Not embarrassed losing 6-2 against Manure? That was embarrassing in large parts, remind me, what exactly was there to feel proud off?
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danhirons wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:59 pm Blame lies fully at bielsa's feet this one. Defence has been horrendous all season. Can't be playing the same way against every team in the prem. Embarrassing
but we do. Every game same team same tactics.

Managing a team requires making changes at the right time. Bielsa doesnt.

Dont get me wrong, without him we would surely still be in the championship, but there is a reason why Bielsa in his 30 year career has never won anything and never sticks around much beyond 100 games.

I would bet my house on him not being here at the start of next season.....question is, will this team be good enough to stay in this league playing bielsaball?......remember his teams tend to run out of steam in the second half of the season.
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To be fair, we could have had six ourselves 😁
If we can win the next game, this won’t matter a jot.
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Denman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:27 pm I’ll keep this short and sweet. I’m not embarrassed at all at losing today, it’s hardly a shock taking everything into account. What’s embarrassing is the reaction by some fans on this and other ‘fan’ forums. For heaven’s sake, get a grip.
Agreed.

This season is more or less a free hit.

We can see what Bielsa is trying to do.
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Overman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:28 pm This really has been a shocker, I understand MB sticking g to his usual methods. However we really don't have the quality to do this against such sides, we just end up looking vulnerable and 'naive'. The amount of times our keeper has kept the scoreline respectable in quite a few games, is a concern. January, the club will need invest again and our Championship defence needs to be phased out.
I'm afraid I don't understand why he sets up the same every week despite the opposition?? You set up to suit your ability or even lack of and we are easy pickings by the better teams. I wouldn't mind if we scored every chance but we don't and continue to need at least 4 clear cut chances to put one away. Same team, same formation same style every week and lets face it we are 14th but if you listen to all the hype would think we are top 6.
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It's embarrassing how easy it is to score against us. Every week we see someone have a free run from midfield against us and this week it was McTominay. :roll: That said, if we're gonna make it easy for teams to score against us, then we have to take our chances. Bamford has two good ones, Harrison, Ayling free header, Raphinha.
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On a side note, eight goals. Five scored by McTominay (2), Lindelof, Cooper and Dallas - what odds could you have got on that?
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Peter in Blackpool wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:35 pm but we do. Every game same team same tactics.

Managing a team requires making changes at the right time. Bielsa doesnt.

Dont get me wrong, without him we would surely still be in the championship, but there is a reason why Bielsa in his 30 year career has never won anything and never sticks around much beyond 100 games.

I would bet my house on him not being here at the start of next season.....question is, will this team be good enough to stay in this league playing bielsaball?......remember his teams tend to run out of steam in the second half of the season.


Why do we never hear from you after a win?

Two games ago you were calling for him to be given two games, then no sign of you when we battered Newcastle.

Internet only run at the weekend in Blackpool?
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Two early goals ruined the match. I had not even settled in my fav chair chair before McT had scored twice. After that it was either to lose with few goals or try to get two goals and get back in the game. We læres for the latter and rest is history.

The second goal was purely Raph’s mistake as he fumbled and they tok advantage. That is a big worry, we keep making these errors and at this level you get punished.

Anyways, the players needs to forget this as the matches are coming relatively fast now, just focus on next game.
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Irish Ian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:42 pm Why do we never hear from you after a win?

Two games ago you were calling for him to be given two games, then no sign of you when we battered Newcastle.

Internet only run at the weekend in Blackpool?
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