The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 28th December) Leeds scrap to victory as injury toll mounts

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Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 28th December) Leeds scrap to victory as injury toll mounts

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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:44 pm Dunno if this helps but yesterday there was a move which Rod who was central knocked it out wide to Jack who was then able to ping it back to Rod who had stolen into the box. Ok headed over in that time but in many games Harrison hasn't been able to cross early because Bamfords positioning means he isn't in a threatening position or he is too closely marked. We then have the ball recycled and the usual happens.
ok one example what about the times Bamford is in position and let down?... very subjective discussion point.. we play a free flowing style, which more often than not equates to changes from the norm...more imperitave a player remembers whats being asked of him at that time
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I think Rodrigo's workrate and movement, are the reason Bamf is getting so many chances to feet now, and scoring goals.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:44 pm Dunno if this helps but yesterday there was a move which Rod who was central knocked it out wide to Jack who was then able to ping it back to Rod who had stolen into the box. Ok headed over in that time but in many games Harrison hasn't been able to cross early because Bamfords positioning means he isn't in a threatening position or he is too closely marked. We then have the ball recycled and the usual happens.
Bamford's off ball movement for wingers seems to be moving behind a defender or a last second change of direction as the winger is about to cross....Stop watching our wingers when they're in good position and watch Paddy. Against Burnley Raphinha was in excellent position and Paddy steps behind the defender, it's just not good forward play imo and he does it a lot, he should either be peeling away a little earlier or trying to get in front of the defender. (Which is how we concede a lot) .

Klich also had to pull out of three crosses in a game recently due to Paddy either tucking himself behind a defender or changing direction and subsequently losing the ball which leads to us thinking he's out of form.

Bamford ball at feet is excellent, I've always said that, assuming he gets it under control first. His first touch is very poor for the most part. Also decent running onto a through ball from a central source ...I'd imagine for wingers he's almost invisible in the box and unpredictable in that you never know where he's going to move too


We've had Costa, Harrison, Poveda, Hernandez Raohinha , Alio, Douglas etc over the last two seasons or so and we constantly bemoan about their crossing being poor....They've been good crossers for other clubs so what could be the issue?
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too closely marked.
More often than not...as the opposition realise how dangerous he is...in a crowded box getting the ball across is the most important job a winger has, behind or in front of a defender, the ball has to come across, thats where it has fallen down a lot IMO.
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Irish Ian wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:44 pm Dunno if this helps but yesterday there was a move which Rod who was central knocked it out wide to Jack who was then able to ping it back to Rod who had stolen into the box. Ok headed over in that time but in many games Harrison hasn't been able to cross early because Bamfords positioning means he isn't in a threatening position or he is too closely marked. We then have the ball recycled and the usual happens.
Playing a false no 9 helps with that issue. Not sure if Rodrigo is a false no 9 or a no 10 though...Maybe both.
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Smudge3920 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:55 pm ok one example what about the times Bamford is in position and let down?... very subjective discussion point.. we play a free flowing style, which more often than not equates to changes from the norm...more imperitave a player remembers whats being asked of him at that time
As I said one example but he finds it easier finding space when the ball is deeper and he is onl the shoulder of the last defender than when it is wide. Been the case since he signed. As we like wing play it leads to hopeful crosses rather than purposeful ones.

Just saying what I see.

But with Rod around and him having a full season under Bielsa he is improving
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BobHirst wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:48 pm A few games ago I posted that Messi needs to be told to leave his line and help his defenders with the high balls in the box. It might take him a while to get proficient at it but it is really going to take some pressure off the defenders.
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